Apple's iOS 17 software update is now out and available to the general
public for download. The latest iPhone OS has several new features,
including full-screen contact posters during phone calls, an improved
and more personalized autocorrect, swipe to reply in text messages, interactive widgets, and so much more.
While most of these features are welcome, if you're like me, you may
not LOVE every single new offering from iOS 17. Sometimes I don't want change, especially when it's drastic, because I get used to the way of
doing certain things.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/you-can-fix-the-most-annoying-ios-17-features-on-your-iphone-heres-how/
While most of these features are welcome, if you're like me, you may
not LOVE every single new offering from iOS 17. Sometimes I don't want
change, especially when it's drastic, because I get used to the way of
doing certain things.
upgrading to ios 17 is *optional*. if you don't like the new features,
then don't upgrade to it.
How is it optional? Won�t everyone have to upgrade to it eventually to maintain software support?
In article <[email protected]>,
badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
While most of these features are welcome, if you're like me, you may
not LOVE every single new offering from iOS 17. Sometimes I don't want
change, especially when it's drastic, because I get used to the way of
doing certain things.
upgrading to ios 17 is *optional*. if you don't like the new features,
then don't upgrade to it.
While most of these features are welcome, if you're like me, you may
not LOVE every single new offering from iOS 17. Sometimes I don't want change, especially when it's drastic, because I get used to the way of
doing certain things.
nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:
In article <[email protected]>,
badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
While most of these features are welcome, if you're like me, you may
not LOVE every single new offering from iOS 17. Sometimes I don't want
change, especially when it's drastic, because I get used to the way of
doing certain things.
upgrading to ios 17 is *optional*. if you don't like the new features,
then don't upgrade to it.
How is it optional? Won’t everyone have to upgrade to it eventually to maintain software support?
In article <uecda2$2d9ot$[email protected]>, badgolferman ><[email protected]> wrote:
you may >> not LOVE every single new offering from iOS 17.While most of these features are welcome, if you're like me,
Sometimes I don't want >> change, especially when it's drastic,
because I get used to the way of >> doing certain things.
features, > then don't upgrade to it.
upgrading to ios 17 is optional. if you don't like the new
How is it optional? Won�t everyone have to upgrade to it
eventually to maintain software support?
nope. there is no requirement to upgrade nor is it forced. when it
asks to confirm the upgrade, decline it. you can remain at whatever
version you want. ios developers have multiple devices with various
older versions for testing (which is annoying but that's how it is).
The article is for those who find annoying features AFTER upgrading
with no method to downgrade.
How is it optional? Won’t everyone have to upgrade to it eventually to maintain software support?
On 2023-09-19 08:04, badgolferman wrote:
nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:
In article <[email protected]>,
badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
While most of these features are welcome, if you're like me, you may
not LOVE every single new offering from iOS 17. Sometimes I don't want >>>> change, especially when it's drastic, because I get used to the way of >>>> doing certain things.
upgrading to ios 17 is *optional*. if you don't like the new features,
then don't upgrade to it.
How is it optional? Won’t everyone have to upgrade to it eventually to
maintain software support?
Based on Apple's policies, in about 6 years everyone will have had to
upgrade to iOS 17.
SIX YEARS
In article <[email protected]>,
badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
The article is for those who find annoying features AFTER upgrading
with no method to downgrade.
you can downgrade for about a week or two after the official release
date (which means months for beta users).
or you can defer upgrading until the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.
How is it optional? Won�t everyone have to upgrade to it eventually to maintain software support?
Based on Apple's policies, in about 6 years everyone will have had to
upgrade to iOS 17.
SIX YEARS
Also, it's not like with Microsoft Windows where you can downgrade after upgrading if you don't like the new version.
The article is for those who find annoying features AFTER upgrading
with no method to downgrade.
you can downgrade for about a week or two after the official release
date (which means months for beta users).
or you can defer upgrading until the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.
I updated my work iPhone 11 to iOS 17. I do not see where I can
uninstall the new operating system. Care to show us rather than just
say nope?
Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2023-09-19 08:04, badgolferman wrote:
nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:
In article <[email protected]>,
badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
While most of these features are welcome, if you're like me, you may >>>>> not LOVE every single new offering from iOS 17. Sometimes I don't want >>>>> change, especially when it's drastic, because I get used to the way of >>>>> doing certain things.
upgrading to ios 17 is *optional*. if you don't like the new features, >>>> then don't upgrade to it.
How is it optional? Won’t everyone have to upgrade to it eventually to >>> maintain software support?
Based on Apple's policies, in about 6 years everyone will have had to
upgrade to iOS 17.
SIX YEARS
Clearly not true. iOS 14 hasn't had an update in nearly two years whereas
15 and 16 have had several. If you want a fully patched ios, it needs to be the most recent or next most recent for a short time.
Also, it's not like with Microsoft Windows where you can downgrade after
upgrading if you don't like the new version.
false.
How is it optional? Won�t everyone have to upgrade to it eventually to
maintain software support?
If you want to maintain OS support after iOS 16 is no longer being
supported, then yes, but that's years away.
Also, it's not like with Microsoft Windows where you can downgrade after upgrading if you don't like the new version.
In article <[email protected]>,
badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
The article is for those who find annoying features AFTER upgrading
with no method to downgrade.
you can downgrade for about a week or two after the official release
date (which means months for beta users).
or you can defer upgrading until the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.
I updated my work iPhone 11 to iOS 17. I do not see where I can
uninstall the new operating system. Care to show us rather than just
say nope?
there's this thing called a search engine. guess what it does when you
query for downgrade ios 17 to 16.
this works, even though it's about beta versions: <https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/downgrade-from-ios-17-to-ios-17/> <https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/how-to-downgrade-from-ios-17-beta-back- to-ios-16>
I updated my work iPhone 11 to iOS 17. I do not see where I can
uninstall the new operating system. Care to show us rather than just
say nope?
there's this thing called a search engine. guess what it does when you query for downgrade ios 17 to 16.
this works, even though it's about beta versions: <https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/downgrade-from-ios-17-to-ios-17/> <https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/how-to-downgrade-from-ios-17-beta-back- to-ios-16>
I don�t have iTunes and refuse to install it. And I don�t have a Mac so I guess it�s impossible otherwise.
nospam <[email protected]d> wrote
Also, it's not like with Microsoft Windows where you can downgrade after >>> upgrading if you don't like the new version.
false.
*It's not only iOS that nospam is completely ignorant about*
With Windows, for example, you could install Windows 11 today, and then, tomorrow you could wipe the disk clean and install Windows 10 all over.
*It's no longer surprising how ignorant the iKooks like nospam are*
In article <ued922$2ikl8$[email protected]>, badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
I updated my work iPhone 11 to iOS 17. I do not see where I can
uninstall the new operating system. Care to show us rather than just
say nope?
there's this thing called a search engine. guess what it does when you
query for downgrade ios 17 to 16.
this works, even though it's about beta versions:
<https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/downgrade-from-ios-17-to-ios-17/>
<https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/how-to-downgrade-from-ios-17-beta-back- >>> to-ios-16>
I don¹t have iTunes and refuse to install it. And I don¹t have a Mac so I >> guess it¹s impossible otherwise.
your choice, but that's how to downgrade. you might be able to go to an
apple store and 'borrow' a mac there.
I�m amazed how the release of iOS 17 can generate such cantankerous
threads. I got it and haven�t run into any deal breakers yet. The battery
may have drained a little faster today. Nothing major.
nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:
In article <[email protected]>,
badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
The article is for those who find annoying features AFTER upgrading
with no method to downgrade.
you can downgrade for about a week or two after the official release
date (which means months for beta users).
or you can defer upgrading until the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.
I updated my work iPhone 11 to iOS 17. I do not see where I can
uninstall the new operating system. Care to show us rather than just
say nope?
there's this thing called a search engine. guess what it does when you
query for downgrade ios 17 to 16.
this works, even though it's about beta versions:
<https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/downgrade-from-ios-17-to-ios-17/>
<https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/how-to-downgrade-from-ios-17-beta-back-
to-ios-16>
I don’t have iTunes and refuse to install it. And I don’t have a Mac so I guess it’s impossible otherwise.
nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:
In article <[email protected]>,
badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
The article is for those who find annoying features AFTER upgrading
with no method to downgrade.
you can downgrade for about a week or two after the official release
date (which means months for beta users).
or you can defer upgrading until the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.
I updated my work iPhone 11 to iOS 17. I do not see where I can
uninstall the new operating system. Care to show us rather than just
say nope?
there's this thing called a search engine. guess what it does when you
query for downgrade ios 17 to 16.
this works, even though it's about beta versions:
<https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/downgrade-from-ios-17-to-ios-17/>
<https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/how-to-downgrade-from-ios-17-beta-back-
to-ios-16>
I don’t have iTunes and refuse to install it. And I don’t have a Mac so I guess it’s impossible otherwise.
badgolferman wrote:
nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:
In article <[email protected]>,
badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
I updated my work iPhone 11 to iOS 17. I do not see where I canThe article is for those who find annoying features AFTER upgrading >>>>>> with no method to downgrade.
you can downgrade for about a week or two after the official release >>>>> date (which means months for beta users).
or you can defer upgrading until the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. >>>>
uninstall the new operating system. Care to show us rather than just >>>> say nope?
there's this thing called a search engine. guess what it does when you
query for downgrade ios 17 to 16.
this works, even though it's about beta versions:
<https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/downgrade-from-ios-17-to-ios-17/>
<https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/how-to-downgrade-from-ios-17-beta-back- >>> to-ios-16>
I don’t have iTunes and refuse to install it. And I don’t have a
Mac so I
guess it’s impossible otherwise.
It's apple's way or no way. Welcome to the garden.
nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:
In article <[email protected]>,
badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
The article is for those who find annoying features AFTER upgrading
with no method to downgrade.
you can downgrade for about a week or two after the official release
date (which means months for beta users).
or you can defer upgrading until the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.
I updated my work iPhone 11 to iOS 17. I do not see where I can
uninstall the new operating system. Care to show us rather than just
say nope?
there's this thing called a search engine. guess what it does when you
query for downgrade ios 17 to 16.
this works, even though it's about beta versions:
<https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/downgrade-from-ios-17-to-ios-17/>
<https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/how-to-downgrade-from-ios-17-beta-back-
to-ios-16>
I don’t have iTunes and refuse to install it.
And I don’t have a Mac
nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:
In article <ued922$2ikl8$[email protected]>, badgolfermanI’m amazed how the release of iOS 17 can generate such cantankerous threads.
<[email protected]> wrote:
I updated my work iPhone 11 to iOS 17. I do not see where I can
uninstall the new operating system. Care to show us rather than just >>>>> say nope?
there's this thing called a search engine. guess what it does when you >>>> query for downgrade ios 17 to 16.
this works, even though it's about beta versions:
<https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/downgrade-from-ios-17-to-ios-17/>
<https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/how-to-downgrade-from-ios-17-beta-back- >>>> to-ios-16>
I don¹t have iTunes and refuse to install it. And I don¹t have a Mac so I >>> guess it¹s impossible otherwise.
your choice, but that's how to downgrade. you might be able to go to an
apple store and 'borrow' a mac there.
I got it and haven’t run into any deal breakers yet. The battery
may have drained a little faster today. Nothing major.
badgolferman wrote:
nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:
In article <[email protected]>,
badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
I updated my work iPhone 11 to iOS 17. I do not see where I canThe article is for those who find annoying features AFTER upgrading >>>>>> with no method to downgrade.
you can downgrade for about a week or two after the official release >>>>> date (which means months for beta users).
or you can defer upgrading until the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. >>>>
uninstall the new operating system. Care to show us rather than just
say nope?
there's this thing called a search engine. guess what it does when you
query for downgrade ios 17 to 16.
this works, even though it's about beta versions:
<https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/downgrade-from-ios-17-to-ios-17/>
<https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/how-to-downgrade-from-ios-17-beta-back- >>> to-ios-16>
I donât have iTunes and refuse to install it. And I donât have a Mac so I
guess itâs impossible otherwise.
It's apple's way or no way. Welcome to the garden.
I�m amazed how the release of iOS 17 can generate such cantankerous
threads.
Most of them are from resident trolls looking for *anything* to bitch
and moan about.
nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:
In article <ued922$2ikl8$[email protected]>, badgolfermanI’m amazed how the release of iOS 17 can generate such cantankerous threads. I got it and haven’t run into any deal breakers yet. The battery may have drained a little faster today. Nothing major.
<[email protected]> wrote:
I updated my work iPhone 11 to iOS 17. I do not see where I can
uninstall the new operating system. Care to show us rather than just >>>>> say nope?
there's this thing called a search engine. guess what it does when you >>>> query for downgrade ios 17 to 16.
this works, even though it's about beta versions:
<https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/downgrade-from-ios-17-to-ios-17/>
<https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/how-to-downgrade-from-ios-17-beta-back- >>>> to-ios-16>
I don¹t have iTunes and refuse to install it. And I don¹t have a Mac so I >>> guess it¹s impossible otherwise.
your choice, but that's how to downgrade. you might be able to go to an
apple store and 'borrow' a mac there.
Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote
I▌ amazed how the release of iOS 17 can generate such cantankerous
threads.
Most of them are from resident trolls looking for *anything* to bitch
and moan about.
Hi Jolly Roger,
*You low-IQ ignorant iKooks _lied for years_ about Apple support*
FACT:
As of the 18th, iOS 16 is no longer supported for full hotfix support.
On 2023-09-19 12:11, Chris wrote:
Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2023-09-19 08:04, badgolferman wrote:
nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:
In article <[email protected]>,
badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
While most of these features are welcome, if you're like me, you may >>>>>> not LOVE every single new offering from iOS 17. Sometimes I don't want >>>>>> change, especially when it's drastic, because I get used to the way of >>>>>> doing certain things.
upgrading to ios 17 is *optional*. if you don't like the new features, >>>>> then don't upgrade to it.
How is it optional? Won’t everyone have to upgrade to it eventually to >>>> maintain software support?
Based on Apple's policies, in about 6 years everyone will have had to
upgrade to iOS 17.
SIX YEARS
Clearly not true. iOS 14 hasn't had an update in nearly two years whereas
15 and 16 have had several. If you want a fully patched ios, it needs to be >> the most recent or next most recent for a short time.
But the most recent works on phones bought up to 6 years ago, agreed?
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