• RSR 'c'

    From Chris@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 13 06:44:03 2023
    A replacement RSR for 16.5.1 which was rapidly pulled this week. Oddly it's version 'c' rather than 'b'.

    Installed fine here.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Chris on Thu Jul 13 07:11:47 2023
    Chris <[email protected]> wrote:

    A replacement RSR for 16.5.1 which was rapidly pulled this week. Oddly it's version 'c' rather than 'b'.

    Installed fine here.



    Maybe they had a version b which didn’t pan out.

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  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Thu Jul 13 13:57:59 2023
    Hank Rogers <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Chris <[email protected]> wrote:

    A replacement RSR for 16.5.1 which was rapidly pulled this week. Oddly it's >> version 'c' rather than 'b'.

    Installed fine here.



    Maybe they had a version b which didn’t pan out.

    The “a” version was released and did not pan out. Makes me glad I did not install it.

    The “c” version may not pan out either. I’ll wait at least a couple weeks
    before installing it. Probably will just wait for 16.5.2.

    I didn’t install the previous “a” either, 16.4.1a. I waited until 16.5 was released.

    I have been in software development/testing/supporting for a very long
    time. Call me crazy, but the result of super-fast coding/testing is not software I want to install on my own computers (Mac, Windows, iPhone and
    iPad). My computers are not a QA lab, and I am not interested in doing
    unpaid testing.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Bob Campbell on Thu Jul 13 12:01:06 2023
    On 2023-07-13 09:57, Bob Campbell wrote:
    development/testing/supporting for a very long
    time. Call me crazy, but the result of super-fast coding/testing is not software I want to install on my own computers (Mac, Windows, iPhone and iPad). My computers are not a QA lab, and I am not interested in doing unpaid testing.

    Why I delay major OS updates by a week or more and minor updates by a
    couple days.

    --
    “If you torture the data long enough, it will confess to anything."
    -Ronald Coase

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to Wade Garrett on Thu Jul 13 09:46:59 2023
    On 7/13/2023 9:36 AM, Wade Garrett wrote:
    On 7/13/23 2:44 AM, Chris wrote:

    A replacement RSR for 16.5.1 which was rapidly pulled this week. Oddly
    it's
    version 'c' rather than 'b'.

    Installed fine here.


    I successfully installed it on several iPads, iPhones and Macs-- but
    can't install it on a properly working and charged 7th gen iPad.

    I wonder if those security updates in the RSR are already rolled into
    public betas. I'm installing the iOS 17 public beta on my iPhone.

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    “If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
    really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
    indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
    they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

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  • From Wade Garrett@21:1/5 to Chris on Thu Jul 13 12:36:27 2023
    On 7/13/23 2:44 AM, Chris wrote:

    A replacement RSR for 16.5.1 which was rapidly pulled this week. Oddly it's version 'c' rather than 'b'.

    Installed fine here.


    I successfully installed it on several iPads, iPhones and Macs-- but
    can't install it on a properly working and charged 7th gen iPad.

    Settings\General\Software Update shows the update but hitting Download
    and Install gives a spinning asterisk for several seconds but then it
    quits-- still showing the download but no d/l and install option.

    A hard reset gets the install option back but a retry has the same result.

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    Think...while it's still legal

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Thu Jul 13 15:17:56 2023
    Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote

    development/testing/supporting for a very long
    time. Call me crazy, but the result of super-fast coding/testing is not
    software I want to install on my own computers (Mac, Windows, iPhone and
    iPad). My computers are not a QA lab, and I am not interested in doing
    unpaid testing.

    Why I delay major OS updates by a week or more and minor updates by a
    couple days.

    You're an idiot if you think this RSR is a single-slab "Update" release.

    This isn't a major nor a minor update. It's completely different.

    Instead of being the normal single-slab release that iOS was until iOS 16,
    it's a "rush" update, which Apple added the capacity for only in iOS 16.

    Apple finally ponied up by copying what all other operating systems do.

    Apple realized their slow single-slab walled garden needed to have the
    ability that every other operating system already had to patch one bug.

    Apple's RSR isn't anywhere nearly as good as Android's, but it's better
    than the single-slap release that every iOS prior to iOS 16 was built of.

    Up until then, Apple couldn't fix a bug without releasing an entire release (which are the major and minor updates you are speaking of).

    Now iOS is no longer the only operating system unable to patch one bug.

    But Apple is going through some quality control issues as Apple is learning what every other company long ago knows, which is that it's not easy to
    convert the single-slab walled garden to allow a simple code fix instead of creating an entire new slab release (which is what major & minor updates
    are).

    Probably none of you iIdiots knows any of this because you don't ever know anything about Apple's single-slab release being different from all others.

    It's not even surprising that you iIdiots know nothing of how Apple works.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Wade Garrett on Sat Jul 15 15:25:57 2023
    On 2023-07-13, Wade Garrett <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/13/23 2:44 AM, Chris wrote:

    A replacement RSR for 16.5.1 which was rapidly pulled this week. Oddly it's >> version 'c' rather than 'b'.

    Installed fine here.

    I successfully installed it on several iPads, iPhones and Macs-- but
    can't install it on a properly working and charged 7th gen iPad.

    Settings\General\Software Update shows the update but hitting Download
    and Install gives a spinning asterisk for several seconds but then it
    quits-- still showing the download but no d/l and install option.

    A hard reset gets the install option back but a retry has the same result.

    Check the iPad's network settings and make sure it's not connected to a
    proxy or VPN.

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    JR

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  • From Wade Garrett@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Mon Jul 17 18:35:46 2023
    On 7/15/23 11:25 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-07-13, Wade Garrett <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 7/13/23 2:44 AM, Chris wrote:

    A replacement RSR for 16.5.1 which was rapidly pulled this week. Oddly it's >>> version 'c' rather than 'b'.

    Installed fine here.

    I successfully installed it on several iPads, iPhones and Macs-- but
    can't install it on a properly working and charged 7th gen iPad.

    Settings\General\Software Update shows the update but hitting Download
    and Install gives a spinning asterisk for several seconds but then it
    quits-- still showing the download but no d/l and install option.

    A hard reset gets the install option back but a retry has the same result.

    Check the iPad's network settings and make sure it's not connected to a
    proxy or VPN.


    I was using the device a few days later and surprisingly the RSR had
    been installed. No clue how, why, when..

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jul 17 19:16:30 2023
    In article <u94fo2$1c6ev$[email protected]>, Wade Garrett
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I was using the device a few days later and surprisingly the RSR had
    been installed. No clue how, why, when..

    overnight.

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  • From Wade Garrett@21:1/5 to nospam on Tue Jul 18 12:48:07 2023
    On 7/17/23 7:16 PM, nospam wrote:
    In article <u94fo2$1c6ev$[email protected]>, Wade Garrett
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I was using the device a few days later and surprisingly the RSR had
    been installed. No clue how, why, when..

    overnight.

    I guess.

    But still no clue why 8-10 install attempts over several days failed
    while a half-dozen other devices went smoothly...

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