Am 01.04.23 um 00:57 schrieb Rat tail soup:

They are overly expensive toys assembled by Asian slaves for stupid
people.

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Burnelli, you are an asshole!


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On 2023-04-01, Raney <[email protected]> wrote:

On 01 Apr 2023, nospam <[email protected]d> posted some news:010420231501554856%[email protected]d:

As nice as the Macbooks are, they can't be used by engineers.

that is very much false.

<Network engineer>

I was on a networking support zoom call recently. 20+ people. One
poor Cisco admin with an Apple POJ was trying to telnet into a switch
to get logs. He could log in, there was no way for him to capture
logging in the session. The Mac version of putty would not work for
him either, so in the end we used a Windows VM and putty to connect
and perform the necessary tasks.

</Network engineer>

Apple products typically fall flat in the enterprise when called upon
to perform the most basic tasks.

That Cisco admin (assuming he actually exists) sounds terribly
incompetent. Macs don't need putty to telnet, and capturing terminal
output is trivial as well.

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rbowman <[email protected]> wrote:

We developed a iOS app but it's mothballed. With Android you could side
load the apk; with iOS you have to jump through Apple hoops. Ain't worth
it.

Hmm, that’s strange. Where I work, we have no “hoops” with our iOS apps.
We must be doing something wrong.

We went to a Angular based SPA that will run in Safari. Sort of. Even
if you can get another browser on an Apple device it's using the lame
WebKit engine.

Again, very strange. All of our stuff runs fine in Safari. Again, I
wonder what we are doing wrong.

Then again, maybe our development team knows what they are doing. Its
pretty damn foolish to not support the most popular phone in the U.S.

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In article <u0eqt7$30qd8$[email protected]>, sms
<[email protected]> wrote:

Copying of devices has gone way beyond code. It's more difficult now,
but in the past you could de-cap a device and copy it. We had copies of
our chips, complete with the bugs, being marketed. Going after those
copycat companies was not worth it since they didn't sell to the same customers.

prosecuting illicit copying of a chip design is not reliant on to whom
it's sold.

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On 4/3/2023 6:43 AM, Ken Hart wrote:

On 4/3/2023 5:38 AM, sms wrote:

How did that happen?

No idea.

But amusingly, when the Pentium FDIV bug showed up some colleagues at
work were amused because they said that that same bug had been in a
previous FPU, at our semiconductor company, and the FPU inside the
Pentium was designed by the same person who moved to Intel. Not sure
about the veracity of that story though.

I guess that could happen but only if the person who moved from one
company to another either stole the compiler code or remembered it
exactly, which isn't really likely that it's possible to have the same
bug in two different companies product unless there is a copying going on.

I'm not saying Apple copied it but if Apple's design is as unique as
they seem to advertise it is, then it shouldn't have the exact same bug
that is in other CPUs if it's as unique as Apple seems to want to claim
it is.

Copying of devices has gone way beyond code. It's more difficult now,
but in the past you could de-cap a device and copy it. We had copies of
our chips, complete with the bugs, being marketed. Going after those
copycat companies was not worth it since they didn't sell to the same customers.
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they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

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On 4/3/2023 4:21 PM, sms wrote:

Copying of devices has gone way beyond code. It's more difficult now,
but in the past you could de-cap a device and copy it. We had copies of
our chips, complete with the bugs, being marketed. Going after those
copycat companies was not worth it since they didn't sell to the same customers.

I don't think Apple would risk exact copying of someone elses code on
purpose because too much is at stake but how then do you explain to someone
who asks why Apple's M1 design has the same exact copy of flaws.

Word for word down to the exact algorithm and exact same error message?
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