On 2023-03-29 16:44, Jolly Roger wrote:

Adults can plainly see that this supposed "questioning" is actually just sealioning <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning> which is an
age-old trolling tactic. You're not fooling anyone.

just kf'd him - surprised I waited this long. Just not worth the
electron flux or time to read his pablum.

Thanks for the sealioning reference.

Quote: <<It may take the form of "incessant, bad-faith invitations to
engage in debate", and has been likened to a denial-of-service attack
targeted at human beings.>>

Which also applies to some others around here - and why we should all
just ignore them.

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On 2023-03-29 16:59, RJH wrote:

On 29 Mar 2023 at 9:27:22 PM, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

I don't care either way.

Why do you think Apple spends millions advertising not anything important about the iPhone but the yellow color and the fancy new emoji instead?

Do you think Apple doesn't know the kind of people who buy Apple's iPhones?

Yes. And they divide their market (as good market researchers do) into
many demographics, segments and categories with overlapping interests.

Because: people are not monolithic. So, while the whole "yellow" thing
might not appeal to me or you, it will 1) Appeal to some people and 2)
cause others to re-visit the notion of upgrading their phone - not
necessarily to a yellow one.

So, because Apple is "an ungodly well managed business"[1], it carefully
rolls out marketing and sales campaigns to increase sales as it is duty
bound to itself and investors.

In the meantime the haters are going to raise a dog whistle over it
because they are all out of ammo everywhere else.

[1] Charlie Munger,
2022-02-16,
The Daily Journal’s annual shareholders meeting

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- Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
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On 29 Mar 2023 at 10:16:53 PM, Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:

Do you think Apple doesn't know the kind of people who buy Apple's iPhones?

Yes. And they divide their market (as good market researchers do) into
many demographics, segments and categories with overlapping interests.

Apple knows precisely what their customers are willing to pay more for.

I can't find that Apple has "divided the market" for the mid-cycle iPhone
14 in any other way than those expensive color and emoji advertisements.

Can you point to any current mid-cycle ad specific to the iPhone 14 that "divided the market" in any other way than by a unique color & emoji?
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On 2023-03-29, Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2023-03-29 16:44, Jolly Roger wrote:

Adults can plainly see that this supposed "questioning" is actually
just sealioning <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning> which is
an age-old trolling tactic. You're not fooling anyone.

just kf'd him - surprised I waited this long. Just not worth the
electron flux or time to read his pablum.

Thanks for the sealioning reference.

Quote: <<It may take the form of "incessant, bad-faith invitations to
engage in debate", and has been likened to a denial-of-service attack targeted at human beings.>>

Which also applies to some others around here - and why we should all
just ignore them.

I'll go ahead and flip the switch back to "killed" too.

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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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On 2023-03-29 18:01, RJH wrote:

On 29 Mar 2023 at 10:16:53 PM, Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:

Do you think Apple doesn't know the kind of people who buy Apple's iPhones? >>

Yes. And they divide their market (as good market researchers do) into
many demographics, segments and categories with overlapping interests.

Apple knows precisely what their customers are willing to pay more for.

I can't find that Apple has "divided the market" for the mid-cycle iPhone
14 in any other way than those expensive color and emoji advertisements.

First off, you sort of answer it right there while ignoring other
salients that I posted.

What emoji advertisement? Do you even know what an "advertisement" is?

Listing features of a revision (of which emojis was but one) is just
saying what it was - it is not advertising.

The one that struck me as useful was the background voice suppression.
Should make future calls with people in noisy places more pleasant.

Can you point to any current mid-cycle ad specific to the iPhone 14 that "divided the market" in any other way than by a unique color & emoji?

Why should I? The point was about how market research works. And when
you sell north of 200,000,000 phones per year, you can bet that maps
onto very wide and finely divided market characteristics.

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danger to American democracy.”
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