Apple predicted to remove the Ring/Silent switch on the iPhone 15.
"Hands off my mute switch, Apple" <https://matridox.com/2023/03/20/apple-iphone-15-pro-mute-switch-dead-rumor/>
But everyone wondered when it would be decontented given the removal of
the physical SIM card slot (U.S. models only), 3D Touch, and the
headphone jack, all of which add expense to the product.
In article <tvckd8$5sj2$[email protected]>, sms
<[email protected]> wrote:
Apple predicted to remove the Ring/Silent switch on the iPhone 15.
That¹s because a new leak suggests Apple will be getting rid of
the iPhone¹s signature mute switch, replacing it with a solid-state
button powered by haptic feedback.
Apple predicted to remove the Ring/Silent switch on the iPhone 15.
"Hands off my mute switch, Apple" <https://matridox.com/2023/03/20/apple-iphone-15-pro-mute-switch-dead-rumor/>
This would be a shame. It's an iconic feature of the iPhone that the competition doesn't have and it provides an easy way to silence a phone
that cannot be unintentionally switched on or off.
But everyone wondered when it would be decontented given the removal of
the physical SIM card slot (U.S. models only), 3D Touch, and the
headphone jack, all of which add expense to the product.
Control centre swipe is a better option. Indeed I occasionally forget I muted it. So would be better (with status) on the Control Centre.
That of course reduces the mechanical/electronic complexity too - higher reliability and better protection against water ingress.
But everyone wondered when it would be decontented given the removal of
the physical SIM card slot (U.S. models only), 3D Touch, and the
headphone jack, all of which add expense to the product.
Products evolve. Imagine that. I suspect TouchID will return however.
In article <WXkSL.1113258$[email protected]>, Alan Browne
<[email protected]> wrote:
That1s because a new leak suggests Apple will be getting rid of
the iPhone1s signature mute switch, replacing it with a solid-state
button powered by haptic feedback.
That would be nice - but I'd also like an on-screen indication that it
is muted.
an on-screen indication has been there for years.
In article <WXkSL.1113258$[email protected]>, Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
That1s because a new leak suggests Apple will be getting rid of
the iPhone1s signature mute switch, replacing it with a solid-state
button powered by haptic feedback.
That would be nice - but I'd also like an on-screen indication that it
is muted.
an on-screen indication has been there for years.
That would be nice - but I'd also like an on-screen indication that it
is muted.
an on-screen indication has been there for years.
When you move the switch - there is a pop up.
But no lingering status.
Unless there is some obscure setting to cause such to be...
Apple predicted to remove the Ring/Silent switch on the iPhone 15.
On 2023-03-21 13:08, nospam wrote:
In article <erlSL.1926873$[email protected]>, Alan Browne
<[email protected]> wrote:
That would be nice - but I'd also like an on-screen indication that it >>>>> is muted.
an on-screen indication has been there for years.
When you move the switch - there is a pop up.
yep.
But no lingering status.
correct.
So useless if it's an hour later. Unless I think to look at the switch,
I might believe it to be unmuted (and yes, this has happened a few times
over the years - as I don't use it much it's not a habit to check).
there's not enough room in the status bar for another icon, plus if the
There's plenty of room
Just squeeze the time and location indicator to the right and there is
plenty of room to the left: https://www.dropbox.com/s/y7srp8o7ymu7ert/IMG_3355.PNG
Further the lock screen has plenty of room as well.
In article <erlSL.1926873$[email protected]>, Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
That would be nice - but I'd also like an on-screen indication that it >>>> is muted.
an on-screen indication has been there for years.
When you move the switch - there is a pop up.
yep.
But no lingering status.
correct.
there's not enough room in the status bar for another icon, plus if the
On 2023-03-21 13:08, nospam wrote:
In article <erlSL.1926873$[email protected]>, Alan Browne
<[email protected]> wrote:
That would be nice - but I'd also like an on-screen indication
that it is muted.
an on-screen indication has been there for years.
When you move the switch - there is a pop up.
yep.
But no lingering status.
correct.
So useless if it's an hour later. Unless I think to look at the
switch, I might believe it to be unmuted (and yes, this has happened a
few times over the years - as I don't use it much it's not a habit to
check).
there's not enough room in the status bar for another icon, plus if
the
There's plenty of room Just squeeze the time and location indicator to
the right and there is plenty of room to the left: https://www.dropbox.com/s/y7srp8o7ymu7ert/IMG_3355.PNG
Further the lock screen has plenty of room as well.
there's not enough room in the status bar for another icon, plus if the
There's plenty of room
Further the lock screen has plenty of room as well.
On 2023-03-21 12:40, nospam wrote:
In article <WXkSL.1113258$[email protected]>, Alan Browne
<[email protected]> wrote:
��� That1s because a new leak suggests Apple will be getting
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That would be nice - but I'd also like an on-screen indication
that it
is muted.
an on-screen indication has been there for years.
When you move the switch - there is a pop up.� But no lingering
status. Unless there is some obscure setting to cause such to be...
I'm sure there are other status icons that are competing for this space
- some more important to more customers than others.
On 2023-03-21, Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2023-03-21 13:08, nospam wrote:
In article <erlSL.1926873$[email protected]>, Alan Browne
<[email protected]> wrote:
That would be nice - but I'd also like an on-screen indication
that it is muted.
an on-screen indication has been there for years.
When you move the switch - there is a pop up.
yep.
But no lingering status.
correct.
So useless if it's an hour later. Unless I think to look at the
switch, I might believe it to be unmuted (and yes, this has happened a
few times over the years - as I don't use it much it's not a habit to
check).
Mine stays on mute pretty much always. So this is hardly a huge concern
for me. So I have to wonder: how many of Apple's customers actually need
or want this status displayed constantly on the screen?
there's not enough room in the status bar for another icon, plus if
the
There's plenty of room Just squeeze the time and location indicator to
the right and there is plenty of room to the left:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y7srp8o7ymu7ert/IMG_3355.PNG
I'm sure there are other status icons that are competing for this space
- some more important to more customers than others.
Further the lock screen has plenty of room as well.
Granted, though I still wonder whether many people would want it.
I'm sure there are other status icons that are competing for this space
- some more important to more customers than others.
indeed there are, and quite a few:
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207354>
There's room to use 2 lines of symbols ...
In article <[email protected]>, Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:
I'm sure there are other status icons that are competing for this space
- some more important to more customers than others.
indeed there are, and quite a few:
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207354>
In article <7pnSL.296843$[email protected]>, Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
I'm sure there are other status icons that are competing for this space >>>> - some more important to more customers than others.
indeed there are, and quite a few:
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207354>
There's room to use 2 lines of symbols ...
there is not.
There's room to use 2 lines of symbols ...
there is not.
Sure there is. Push the current "line" up about 50% or so and add a
line below it. No biggie. Minor symbol edit perhaps.
In article <EBnSL.1177874$[email protected]>, Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
There's room to use 2 lines of symbols ...
there is not.
Sure there is. Push the current "line" up about 50% or so and add a
line below it. No biggie. Minor symbol edit perhaps.
that would look bad when there is no mute icon to display.
And of course, at some point Apple should get rid of the notch - then
there will be lots of room for such.
In article <3XnSL.205172$[email protected]>, Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
And of course, at some point Apple should get rid of the notch - then
there will be lots of room for such.
currently, that's not possible with face id hardware and likely never
will be.
On 2023-03-21 16:08, nospam wrote:
In article <3XnSL.205172$[email protected]>, Alan Browne
<[email protected]> wrote:
And of course, at some point Apple should get rid of the notch - then
there will be lots of room for such.
currently, that's not possible with face id hardware and likely never
will be.
There is no need for the screen to go to the top edge. Leave a bezel
there for the faceid h/w and front camera.
But everyone wondered when it would be decontented given the removal of
the physical SIM card slot (U.S. models only), 3D Touch, and the
headphone jack, all of which add expense to the product.
On 21/03/2023 17:1, sms wrote:
But everyone wondered when it would be decontented given the removal of
the physical SIM card slot (U.S. models only), 3D Touch, and the
headphone jack, all of which add expense to the product.
The real reason isn't the expense as much as it is the ability to funnel
the unsuspecting and clueless consumer toward Apple's proprietary solutions for each of the missing capabilities that Apple removed from the iPhone.
Headphone jack? Haven't missed it at all.
Note that Macs still come with the 3.5mm jack.
On 21/03/2023 17:1, sms wrote:
But everyone wondered when it would be decontented given the removal of
the physical SIM card slot (U.S. models only), 3D Touch, and the
headphone jack, all of which add expense to the product.
The real reason isn't the expense as much as it is the ability to funnel
the unsuspecting and clueless consumer toward Apple's proprietary solutions for each of the missing capabilities that Apple removed from the iPhone.
I didn't ever see an Android phone with that feature.
It is really nice when you're going into a venue where you need to
silence your phone to flip that switch and be really sure that the phone isn't going to be ringing (and no notifications either), though alarms
can still go off.
I'm sure that our usual suspects will insist that:
a) no one needs the ring/silent switch.
b) no one uses the ring/silent switch.
c) the removal of the ring/silent switch will benefit users in some way.
d) the removal of the ring/silent switch is necessary because it takes
up space that is needed for something else.
e) there's a workaround to gain this functionality back.
In article <tvfbc3$mqk9$[email protected]>, sms
<[email protected]> wrote:
I'm sure that our usual suspects will insist that:
a) no one needs the ring/silent switch.
b) no one uses the ring/silent switch.
c) the removal of the ring/silent switch will benefit users in some way.
d) the removal of the ring/silent switch is necessary because it takes
up space that is needed for something else.
e) there's a workaround to gain this functionality back.
wrong on all of that.
the ring/silent switch is *not* being removed, which *your* link stated.
nospam wrote:
In article <tvfbc3$mqk9$[email protected]>, sms
<[email protected]> wrote:
I'm sure that our usual suspects will insist that:
a) no one needs the ring/silent switch.
b) no one uses the ring/silent switch.
c) the removal of the ring/silent switch will benefit users in some way. >>> d) the removal of the ring/silent switch is necessary because it takes
up space that is needed for something else.
e) there's a workaround to gain this functionality back.
wrong on all of that.
the ring/silent switch is *not* being removed, which *your* link stated.
Thank Gawd!
On 2023-03-21 12:01, sms wrote:
Apple predicted to remove the Ring/Silent switch on the iPhone 15.
"Hands off my mute switch, Apple"
<https://matridox.com/2023/03/20/apple-iphone-15-pro-mute-switch-dead-rumor/>
This would be a shame. It's an iconic feature of the iPhone that the
competition doesn't have and it provides an easy way to silence a phone
that cannot be unintentionally switched on or off.
Control centre swipe is a better option. Indeed I occasionally forget I muted it. So would be better (with status) on the Control Centre.
That of course reduces the mechanical/electronic complexity too - higher reliability and better protection against water ingress.
But everyone wondered when it would be decontented given the removal of
the physical SIM card slot (U.S. models only), 3D Touch, and the
headphone jack, all of which add expense to the product.
Products evolve. Imagine that. I suspect TouchID will return however.
Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2023-03-21 12:01, sms wrote:
Apple predicted to remove the Ring/Silent switch on the iPhone 15.
"Hands off my mute switch, Apple"
<https://matridox.com/2023/03/20/apple-iphone-15-pro-mute-switch-dead-rumor/>
This would be a shame. It's an iconic feature of the iPhone that the
competition doesn't have and it provides an easy way to silence a phone
that cannot be unintentionally switched on or off.
Control centre swipe is a better option. Indeed I occasionally forget I
muted it. So would be better (with status) on the Control Centre.
That of course reduces the mechanical/electronic complexity too - higher
reliability and better protection against water ingress.
Physical buttons are more immediate and reliable. You can also feel whether the mute is on or off. Important when in the cinema or theatre where
looking at a bright screen would be massively distracting.
Software solutions can glitch, lag or misinterpret gestures.
But everyone wondered when it would be decontented given the removal of
the physical SIM card slot (U.S. models only), 3D Touch, and the
headphone jack, all of which add expense to the product.
Products evolve. Imagine that. I suspect TouchID will return however.
Not always in a good way. Especially when a product is very mature and "innovation" is looking for solutions to non-problems.
On 2023-03-23 10:25, Chris wrote:
Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2023-03-21 12:01, sms wrote:
Apple predicted to remove the Ring/Silent switch on the iPhone 15.
"Hands off my mute switch, Apple"
<https://matridox.com/2023/03/20/apple-iphone-15-pro-mute-switch-dead-rumor/>
This would be a shame. It's an iconic feature of the iPhone that the
competition doesn't have and it provides an easy way to silence a phone >>>> that cannot be unintentionally switched on or off.
Control centre swipe is a better option. Indeed I occasionally forget I >>> muted it. So would be better (with status) on the Control Centre.
That of course reduces the mechanical/electronic complexity too - higher >>> reliability and better protection against water ingress.
Physical buttons are more immediate and reliable. You can also feel whether >> the mute is on or off. Important when in the cinema or theatre where
looking at a bright screen would be massively distracting.
Software solutions can glitch, lag or misinterpret gestures.
There will still be a mute 'button' but it won't be a sliding switch.
And it will be sealed from the outside. Feedback will be taptic.
That's on an event basis.
I was talking about status on the display at any given time.
But everyone wondered when it would be decontented given the removal of >>>> the physical SIM card slot (U.S. models only), 3D Touch, and the
headphone jack, all of which add expense to the product.
Products evolve. Imagine that. I suspect TouchID will return however.
Not always in a good way. Especially when a product is very mature and
"innovation" is looking for solutions to non-problems.
Yes I agree - my car has physical knobs / buttons for climate control -
I can do it all by feel w/o lowering my head (and the changed state
shows at the top of the infotainment display).
My SO's car has "contact" switches to change fan speed and select
climate mode. You really need eyes on - and on a bumpy road it's
hit/miss.
Tesla take this even further and that is a safety issue to me. (Elon
has a "the best part is no part" policy - has its place to be sure - but
can go too far).
That said, the absence of the 3.5mm jack doesn't bother me at all.
That said, the absence of the 3.5mm jack doesn't bother me at all.
Occasionally it does me. Bluetooth has usability issues.
Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
That said, the absence of the 3.5mm jack doesn't bother me at all.
Occasionally it does me. Bluetooth has usability issues.
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