• Re: Why are only the iOS users complaing about lack of functionality in

    From badgolferman@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Thu Feb 23 18:29:24 2023
    Andy Burnelli <[email protected]> wrote:
    This is a serious question which, as usual, the iKooks will be deathly
    afraid of so they will consider _any_ adult question, a troll.

    I have observed that nobody on the Android newsgroup seems to be
    complaining about any lack of functionality of their chosen messaging app.

    It's only people like Steve who happen to be on iOS who are complaining.

    Why?


    Since sms uses both platforms he knows what he’s missing in iOS. The rest
    of don’t know what we’re missing!

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Feb 23 13:32:56 2023
    In article <tt8ba4$1ui4k$[email protected]>, badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:

    Since sms uses both platforms he knows what he�s missing in iOS.

    he claims to use both, yet his knowledge of ios is deeply lacking.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Thu Feb 23 18:54:53 2023
    nospam wrote:

    Since sms uses both platforms he knows what he's missing in iOS.

    he claims to use both, yet his knowledge of ios is deeply lacking.

    Thank you both badgolferman and nospam for answering as an adult, since I strive to _understand_ why people do what they do (ask me about Russians!).

    What we, as adults, need to separate is what Google cares about (or even
    what Apple cares about for that matter) versus what the users care about.

    *We know Apple cares about lock-in & we know Google wants in on that*

    But my main adult point is that it probably shouldn't matter to us whether Google is desperate to get the same kind of lock-in that Apple clearly has.

    In fact, we may even NOT want Google to obtain that glue trap, right?
    Certainly Apple's management has stated they don't want Google to have it.

    In continuing on the _adult_ conversation, we can all agree that
    impressionable young kids certainly care about the color of their bubbles.

    And, as badgolferman noted, they care about emoji gimmicks, where the kids aren't likely to be technically astute enough to realize how to do that.

    In summary, I observe three things before I re-state the question I ask:
    1. Certainly Google is _desperate_ for lock-in, and certainly Apple has it
    2. But who cares about them - it's the _users_ who matter, right?
    3. If we omit impressionable kids, who is complaining about messaging?

    *Why does Steve, for example, pine for iMessage on Android?*

    Since we're technical, the more accurate way to ask that question is...

    *What does iMessage do, that, oh, say, PulseSMS on Android, doesn't do?*

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Thu Feb 23 14:39:09 2023
    Andy Burnelli wrote:
    nospam wrote:

    Since sms uses both platforms he knows what he's missing in iOS.

    he claims to use both, yet his knowledge of ios is deeply lacking.

    Thank you both badgolferman and nospam for answering as an adult,
    since I
    strive to _understand_ why people do what they do (ask me about
    Russians!).


    OK, what about russians? Please tell us!

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Thu Feb 23 16:15:01 2023
    On 2/23/2023 10:29 AM, badgolferman wrote:

    <snip>

    Since sms uses both platforms he knows what he’s missing in iOS. The rest of don’t know what we’re missing!

    Our favorite troll is wrong of course.

    Many Android users , at least in the U.S., are very annoyed about the
    lack of iMessage capability. Annoyed to the point of there being three different ways to work around this issue: AirMessage
    <https://airmessage.org/>, BlueBubbles <https://bluebubbles.app/>, and
    Beeper <https://www.beeper.com/>.

    This is very much a U.S. issue. In most of Europe, and India, WhatsApp
    is the default messaging app. In China it's WeChat. In Japan and Taiwan
    it's Line. In Korea it's KakaoTalk. Telegram and Viber also have a
    following in some regions.

    Beeper has the right idea, integrating most of the different messaging
    apps. But the demand has been much greater than they can handle.
    Supposedly if you contact them and offer to be a paid subscriber it's
    pretty quick.

    Beeper supports:
    • Whatsapp
    • Facebook
    • Twitter
    • iMessage
    • Android SMS
    • Telegram
    • Signal
    • Slack
    • Google Chat
    • Instagram
    • IRC (Libera.chat)
    • Matrix
    • Discord
    • LinkedIn

    Apple has no incentive to directly support iMessage on Android.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to sms on Fri Feb 24 00:49:23 2023
    sms wrote:

    Many Android users , at least in the U.S., are very annoyed about the
    lack of iMessage capability. Annoyed to the point of there being three different ways to work around this issue: AirMessage <https://airmessage.org/>, BlueBubbles <https://bluebubbles.app/>, and
    Beeper <https://www.beeper.com/>.

    While Steve claims "many Android users" pine for iMessage, I'm not one of
    them, and, let's be clear, I have plenty of iOS devices to test iMessage.

    Steve is a political animal, particularly grooming himself for Cupertino. Worse, the iKooks are ignorant as the Jim Jones' kultists were.

    However, the adult question still needs to be asked of those on this ng.

    *What can the iMessage app do that this modern Android app doesn't do?*

    Pulse SMS (Phone/Tablet/Web) by Maple Media, In-app purchases
    free, adfree, req gsf, 4.7star,78.5K reviews,1M+Downloads
    <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.klinker.messenger>

    Hint: I type into my Android phone messaging app from the PC all the time.
    <https://i.postimg.cc/pr13NYWW/android-on-windows.jpg>

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Fri Feb 24 01:18:29 2023
    Andy Burnelli <[email protected]> wrote:

    However, the adult question still needs to be asked of those on this ng.

    *What can the iMessage app do that this modern Android app doesn't do?*




    Keep iMessage group chats from turning green?

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Thu Feb 23 23:07:12 2023
    badgolferman wrote:

    *What can the iMessage app do that this modern Android app doesn't do?*


    Keep iMessage group chats from turning green?

    Hi badgolferman,

    One thing about me people need to comprehend is that I'm not stupid.
    And, I'm well informed on many things that the iKooks & Steve are not.

    An example is this (which Steve, of all people, should have known about).
    <https://home.pulsesms.app/overview/platform-ios.html>

    Point is I'm well aware of _modern_ functionality in messaging apps.
    <https://www.guidingtech.com/android-messages-vs-pulse-sms-comparison/>

    The iKooks (and Steve) are (apparently) completely unaware of this.

    I think that almost all, if not all, the information the iKooks and Steve
    are basing their opinions on, is something like a decade old, or longer.

    What I'm asking about is a question of today's _modern_ functionality.
    <https://home.pulsesms.app/android_messages.html>

    I, like you, comprehend that, for impressionable status-conscious young
    kids, fitting in is far more important than anything else in the world.

    But my question is serious in that, other than Steve, I don't see anyone on
    the Android newsgroup pining for iMessage on Android, nor among my friends.

    I completely get that Google is desperate for an iMessage-like glue trap.
    But Google's desperation is of little to no concern of mine in this regard.

    *What matters, to me, is functionality.*

    And, I can't see what on earth people think is "better" about iMessage
    than, oh, say, Pulse SMS, which, AFAIK, does a lot more than iMessage does.
    <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.klinker.messenger>

    It has everything Jolly Roger thinks it doesn't have, for example, it has
    End-to-end encryption.
    Works on any platform (even Linux & Android TV).
    Endless customization.
    Suggested Smart Replies within conversations
    Password protected private text conversations
    Giphy GIFs
    Automatic message backup and restore
    Preview web links
    Delayed sending
    Automated replies]
    Dual-SIM support
    etc.

    In summary, I get it that impressionable young status-conscious kids are desperate to fit in, but when adults like Jolly Roger and nospam and Steve can't comprehend that all their information is ten years old, that's what
    irks me.

    I can't have an intelligent conversation with any of them because they
    won't even click on the links I provided to back up my assertions.

    It would be fantastic to have an _adult_ conversation, comparing the merits
    of, for example iMessage & PulseSMS - but it's not possible on this ng.

    Sigh.

    I'm used to conversing with people who are better informed than are iKooks. Even Steve, who isn't an iKook, seems to be years behind in his knowledge.

    I guess I don't belong in this newsgroup as it's not on the same level.

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Fri Feb 24 07:54:34 2023
    Andy Burnelli <[email protected]> wrote:
    sms wrote:

    Many Android users , at least in the U.S., are very annoyed about the
    lack of iMessage capability. Annoyed to the point of there being three
    different ways to work around this issue: AirMessage
    <https://airmessage.org/>, BlueBubbles <https://bluebubbles.app/>, and
    Beeper <https://www.beeper.com/>.

    While Steve claims "many Android users" pine for iMessage, I'm not one of them, and, let's be clear, I have plenty of iOS devices to test iMessage.

    Steve is a political animal, particularly grooming himself for Cupertino. Worse, the iKooks are ignorant as the Jim Jones' kultists were.

    However, the adult question still needs to be asked of those on this ng.

    *What can the iMessage app do that this modern Android app doesn't do?*

    Pulse SMS (Phone/Tablet/Web) by Maple Media, In-app purchases
    free, adfree, req gsf, 4.7star,78.5K reviews,1M+Downloads <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.klinker.messenger>

    Group chats.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Feb 24 07:38:10 2023
    In article <tt9nmh$3cinn$[email protected]>, Andy Burnelli <[email protected]> wrote:

    I guess I don't belong in this newsgroup

    correct. you do not.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Feb 24 14:21:04 2023
    In article <q38KL.31621$[email protected]>, Hank Rogers
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    In article <tt9nmh$3cinn$[email protected]>, Andy Burnelli <[email protected]> wrote:
    I guess I don't belong in this newsgroup

    correct. you do not.


    Damn, if he leaves, we'll all become dumber, because he'll take all
    those books with him.

    not if you download the photos first.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to nospam on Fri Feb 24 13:17:40 2023
    nospam wrote:
    In article <tt9nmh$3cinn$[email protected]>, Andy Burnelli <[email protected]> wrote:

    I guess I don't belong in this newsgroup

    correct. you do not.


    Damn, if he leaves, we'll all become dumber, because he'll take all
    those books with him.

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Fri Feb 24 11:22:51 2023
    On 2/23/2023 5:18 PM, badgolferman wrote:
    Andy Burnelli <[email protected]> wrote:

    However, the adult question still needs to be asked of those on this ng.

    *What can the iMessage app do that this modern Android app doesn't do?*




    Keep iMessage group chats from turning green?

    It's not the color of the messages, it's about modifying the group
    members without creating a whole new group. If any member of a group
    text is Android, you can't remove anyone. The only groups you can
    modify would be if everyone is an iPhone user on iMessage.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to nospam on Fri Feb 24 19:23:36 2023
    On 2023-02-24, nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:
    In article <q38KL.31621$[email protected]>, Hank Rogers
    <[email protected]d> wrote:
    In article <tt9nmh$3cinn$[email protected]>, Andy Burnelli
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I guess I don't belong in this newsgroup

    correct. you do not.

    Damn, if he leaves, we'll all become dumber, because he'll take all
    those books with him.

    not if you download the photos first.

    Check mate!

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From RonTheGuy@21:1/5 to sms on Sat Feb 25 22:27:45 2023
    On Feb 24, 2023, sms wrote
    (in article<news:ttb2qa$29oba$[email protected]>):

    *What can the iMessage app do that this modern Android app doesn't do?*



    Keep iMessage group chats from turning green?

    It's not the color of the messages, it's about modifying the group
    members without creating a whole new group. If any member of a group
    text is Android, you can't remove anyone. The only groups you can
    modify would be if everyone is an iPhone user on iMessage.

    Why can Android messengers do that group member mod but iOS can't?

    Ron, the humblest guy in town.

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to RonTheGuy on Sun Feb 26 13:03:41 2023
    RonTheGuy wrote:

    It's not the color of the messages, it's about modifying the group
    members without creating a whole new group. If any member of a
    group text is Android, you can't remove anyone. The only groups
    you can modify would be if everyone is an iPhone user on iMessage.

    Why can Android messengers do that group member mod but iOS can't?

    Android can't do that either. I'm part of a group chat that has
    roughly equal Android and iOS members. It's constantly updated as
    group members drop out or get added. An Android user took over the
    management of the members because she thought she could add/remove
    members easily but found out she couldn't either.

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to nospam on Sun Feb 26 13:05:33 2023
    nospam wrote:

    In article <tt9nmh$3cinn$[email protected]>, Andy Burnelli ><[email protected]> wrote:

    I guess I don't belong in this newsgroup

    correct. you do not.

    You will miss him if he leaves since he gives you a reason to exist on
    this group. And this group will wither away to very few messages
    eventually.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Sun Feb 26 15:53:47 2023
    On 2023-02-26, badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
    RonTheGuy wrote:

    It's not the color of the messages, it's about modifying the group
    members without creating a whole new group. If any member of a
    group text is Android, you can't remove anyone. The only groups you
    can modify would be if everyone is an iPhone user on iMessage.

    Why can Android messengers do that group member mod but iOS can't?

    Android can't do that either. I'm part of a group chat that has
    roughly equal Android and iOS members. It's constantly updated as
    group members drop out or get added. An Android user took over the management of the members because she thought she could add/remove
    members easily but found out she couldn't either.

    How can this be? I was told by the trolls here that this was a problem
    only on iOS because Android was eminently superior in every way.

    --
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    JR

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Sun Feb 26 15:54:59 2023
    On 2023-02-26, badgolferman <[email protected]> wrote:
    nospam wrote:
    In article <tt9nmh$3cinn$[email protected]>, Andy Burnelli >><[email protected]> wrote:

    I guess I don't belong in this newsgroup

    correct. you do not.

    You will miss him if he leavesi

    Nobody will miss Arlen after he curls up and dies. The world will
    celebrate on that day, and Usenet will become a little brighter.

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Feb 26 12:54:04 2023
    In article <ttg5rs$2vf89$[email protected]>, sms
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    If I look at this group in Google Groups, rather than using Thunderbird,
    it's like there's a sideband channel of a few trolls arguing with each
    other about things that they know little about.

    projection. the only trolls are 'arlen' and you, along with the
    countless alternate nyms and sockpuppets.

    the rest of the group actually *does* know about iphones and other
    apple products, and they don't argue about it either.

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Sun Feb 26 09:27:44 2023
    On 2/26/2023 5:03 AM, badgolferman wrote:
    RonTheGuy wrote:

    It's not the color of the messages, it's about modifying the group
    members without creating a whole new group. If any member of a
    group text is Android, you can't remove anyone. The only groups
    you can modify would be if everyone is an iPhone user on iMessage.

    Why can Android messengers do that group member mod but iOS can't?

    Android can't do that either. I'm part of a group chat that has
    roughly equal Android and iOS members. It's constantly updated as
    group members drop out or get added. An Android user took over the management of the members because she thought she could add/remove
    members easily but found out she couldn't either.

    What you could do is to set up an AirMessage server and have all the
    Android members of the group install the AirMessage app. Each user will
    have to have an AppleID. You only need one AirMessage server. See <https://airmessage.org/help/guide/multiple-users>. They can also access AirMessage from their computers, another advantage of iMessage versus
    SMS/MMS (unless you use SMS/MMS via Google Voice). You can use the
    AirMessage Android app for both SMS and iMessage.

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  • From sms@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Sun Feb 26 09:45:32 2023
    On 2/26/2023 5:05 AM, badgolferman wrote:

    <snip>

    You will miss him if he leaves since he gives you a reason to exist on
    this group. And this group will wither away to very few messages
    eventually.

    I suspect that many of the subscribers to misc.phone.mobile.iphone have
    both of our favorite trolls filtered out, and would not even notice that
    they were gone, except when someone does a follow-up post.

    See <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16N5HMDVnr6nzdp-jfNi9JhcNHHkQyITqAcG2ZBBKKFo/>
    if you need a list of filters to use in your newsreader app. Many are no
    longer necessary but the filter list has built up over time.

    If I look at this group in Google Groups, rather than using Thunderbird,
    it's like there's a sideband channel of a few trolls arguing with each
    other about things that they know little about.

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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to sms on Sun Feb 26 18:31:57 2023
    sms <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2/26/2023 5:03 AM, badgolferman wrote:
    RonTheGuy wrote:

    It's not the color of the messages, it's about modifying the group
    members without creating a whole new group. If any member of a
    group text is Android, you can't remove anyone. The only groups
    you can modify would be if everyone is an iPhone user on iMessage.

    Why can Android messengers do that group member mod but iOS can't?

    Android can't do that either. I'm part of a group chat that has
    roughly equal Android and iOS members. It's constantly updated as
    group members drop out or get added. An Android user took over the
    management of the members because she thought she could add/remove
    members easily but found out she couldn't either.

    What you could do is to set up an AirMessage server and have all the
    Android members of the group install the AirMessage app. Each user will
    have to have an AppleID. You only need one AirMessage server. See <https://airmessage.org/help/guide/multiple-users>. They can also access AirMessage from their computers, another advantage of iMessage versus
    SMS/MMS (unless you use SMS/MMS via Google Voice). You can use the
    AirMessage Android app for both SMS and iMessage.


    Yeah, right…

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Mon Feb 27 04:45:48 2023
    badgolferman wrote:

    You will miss him if he leaves since he gives you a reason to exist on
    this group. And this group will wither away to very few messages
    eventually.

    Hi badgolferman,

    The Apple newsgroups are a culture replete with deceit, hypocrisy & lies.
    Yet, this group existed before me, and it will exist well after I'm gone.

    I first found this group when I tried to jailbreak an AT&T iPhone for a kid
    and that's when I found out this newsgroup is different from OS newsgroups.

    I'm on the Linux, Android and Windows OS newsgroups, for example, and they
    are normal newsgroups, much like any group of relatively normal adults.

    But what I noticed on _this_ newsgroup (and all Apple newsgroups) is that
    it's like the difference between hearing Biden & Putin speak about the war.

    Alan Browne is like Vasily Nebenzya; nospam is like Sergei Lavrov.
    Jolly Roger is like Dmitry Peskov; Alan Baker like Dmitriy Utkin.

    Steve is akin to the oligarchs... perhaps like Anatoly Chubais, or, more to
    his always political fiduciary mercenary agenda, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

    In summary... this ng has _always_ been a cesspool of lies.
    I can't fix the people in this newsgroup, few of whom act like adults.

    The only thing I can do, is provide facts to fight their lies.
    It's no different than dealing with the Russians, badgolferman.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Sun Feb 26 22:52:54 2023
    Andy Burnelli wrote:
    badgolferman wrote:

    You will miss him if he leaves since he gives you a reason to
    exist on
    this group.� And this group will wither away to very few messages
    eventually.

    Hi badgolferman,

    The Apple newsgroups are a culture replete with deceit, hypocrisy &
    lies.
    Yet, this group existed before me, and it will exist well after I'm
    gone.

    I first found this group when I tried to jailbreak an AT&T iPhone
    for a kid
    and that's when I found out this newsgroup is different from OS
    newsgroups.


    For an adult, you sure love to hang out with children. Man, that's
    pretty kinky. You're gonna get caught one day.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Mon Feb 27 05:07:03 2023
    badgolferman wrote:

    What you could do is to set up an AirMessage server and have all the
    Android members of the group install the AirMessage app.

    Yeah, right�K

    Hehhehheh... I had just moments ago muttered to myself when I read Steve's recommendation, "yeah, that'll work" when I saw your EXACT same response!

    Nobody on Android is complaining ('cept Steve) about their messaging app.
    Only iOS users are complaining.

    That's the whole point of the adult question being asked here.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Mon Feb 27 05:42:52 2023
    nospam wrote:

    Nobody on Android is complaining ('cept Steve) about their messaging app.
    Only iOS users are complaining.

    you have that backwards. ios users are not complaining because they
    have a more capable and better integrated messaging app than anything
    on android.

    Hi nospam,
    I'm going to try to converse with you as if you own the mind of an adult.

    Hence, my first admonishment is that I believe that you believe that
    iMessage is not primitive, and, in fact, you believe (with no evidence
    cited) that it's actually "more capable" and "better integrated" than
    "anything on Android", even as iMessage is clearly a stone-age design mired
    in the walled garden, in reality (which I already proved to Jolly Roger).

    It's like you telling me that you think Jim Jones is the greatest preacher since Jesus. I believe you believe the idiocy you spew. But it's wrong.

    It only takes seconds to see how utterly primitive iMessage is compared to
    the functionality of a modern messenger - but - that's NOT the topic here.

    The topic here is _why_ are only the iOS users complaining about it.

    google has tried more than a dozen messaging apps in the past decade or
    so and still can't figure out how match what apple has, which is why
    they're desperately clinging to rcs as their last hope.

    Again, this is why I know you and Steve own a substandard IQ, nospam.
    Remember I said I was going to converse with you as if you own the mind of
    an adult? Here's your first adult observation, nospam:
    *Nobody gives a shit what Google is desperate for, nospam*

    Only you.
    And Steve.

    Nobody else cares that Google is _desperate_ to get the rat-trap glue-trap lock-in into the walled garden that iMessage gives to Apple nospam.

    Only you are desperate to care about what Google is desperate for.
    And Steve.

    But an _adult_ would comprehend that what Google desperately needs isn't necessarily in the best interests of the user, nospam.

    You can't fathom that basic obvious transparent concept.

    The fact you can't fathom a concept _that_ obviously simple, is how I know
    you have a low IQ, and how I know that Steve is proselytizing his agenda.

    You need to think like an adult, nospam.
    Not like a child.

    Nobody cares what Google is desperate for.
    We only care what the users want.

    worse, they're lying about it. among the things they don't tell people
    is that encryption is not part of rcs, but rather something they added
    to their messaging app, making it *not* 'universal'. it's actually an
    attempt at locking in users.

    An adult comprehends that it doesn't matter what Google is desperate for
    since we don't need to use Google's messaging app to do our messaging.

    That you believe Google's messenger is the _only_ messenger on Android is
    yet another way I know that you're completely clueless about iOS & Android.

    You need to work on your ability to comprehend an _adult_ concept, nospam.
    --
    Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
    which, in this case, is to provide idiot iKooks with an adult viewpoint.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Feb 27 00:26:09 2023
    In article <tthdpb$jko6$[email protected]>, Andy Burnelli <[email protected]> wrote:

    Nobody on Android is complaining ('cept Steve) about their messaging app. Only iOS users are complaining.

    you have that backwards. ios users are not complaining because they
    have a more capable and better integrated messaging app than anything
    on android.

    google has tried more than a dozen messaging apps in the past decade or
    so and still can't figure out how match what apple has, which is why
    they're desperately clinging to rcs as their last hope.

    worse, they're lying about it. among the things they don't tell people
    is that encryption is not part of rcs, but rather something they added
    to their messaging app, making it *not* 'universal'. it's actually an
    attempt at locking in users.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Feb 27 00:57:04 2023
    In article <tthfsg$jr09$[email protected]>, Andy Burnelli <[email protected]> wrote:

    That you believe Google's messenger is the _only_ messenger on Android is
    yet another way I know that you're completely clueless about iOS & Android.

    the only clueless person is you. nobody ever said anything close to
    that.

    both platforms have a selection of messaging apps. maybe if you had any
    friends to message you'd know how they work.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Mon Feb 27 13:37:58 2023
    nospam wrote:

    That you believe Google's messenger is the _only_ messenger on Android is
    yet another way I know that you're completely clueless about iOS & Android.

    the only clueless person is you. nobody ever said anything close to
    that.

    Again, I'm going to attempt an _adult_ conversation with you, nospam.

    There are two adult points you need to comprehend about your own words...
    1. *Nobody cares that Google is desperate for an Apple-like glue trap.*
    (That's Google's problem. Not the users' problem, nospam. Nor yours.)

    2. *You believe iMessage is "modern" but I can easily show it's primitive.*
    (That's your problem. You are a religious fanatic. No facts do you use.)

    both platforms have a selection of messaging apps. maybe if you had any friends to message you'd know how they work.

    Again, I'm going to try to discuss this with you as if you're an adult.

    Every time you defend Apple's flaws to the death, nospam, it's clear you
    know absolutely nothing about iOS if you don't even know you can't change
    the _default_ messaging app from the primitive iMessage to a modern app.

    On Android, if you think the _default_ messaging app is primitive, there's nothing whatsoever stopping you from making a modern app the _default_.

    Even so, that doesn't change the observation that nobody on the Android newsgroup ('cept Steve) seems to desperately desire the primitive iMessage.

    And, that doesn't change the observation that people on the iPhone are so
    low class and low skilled technically that they pine for green bubbles.

    The question is why are only Apple users complaining about their messenger?

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