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  • Re: Nord Stream explosions

    From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Sep 20 19:07:22 2023
    On Thu, 01 Dec 2022 11:11:09 -0600
    JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On 01 Dec 2022 15:38:08 +0000 (GMT), Theo
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Hence blowing it up didn't actually affect the amount of gas Russia sold >very much. But it did increase uncertainty and hence gas prices. Why sell >more when you can just raise the price on what you do sell?

    I'm not following all of this topic's details, but

    Feb 4 - Russia, China agree 30-year gas deal via new pipeline, to
    settle in euros https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/exclusive-russia-china-agree-30-year-gas-deal-using-new-pipeline-source-2022-02-04/

    I believe there was more than one Russian oil/gas executive who fell
    out of a window, so to speak. What that was about, I don't know.

    EU sanctions against Russia explained - In June 2022, the Council
    adopted a sixth package of sanctions that, among others, prohibits the purchase, import or transfer of crude oil and certain petroleum
    products from Russia to the EU. The restrictions will apply from 5
    December 2022 for crude oil and from 5 February 2023 for other refined petroleum products. https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/sanctions/restrictive-measures-against-russia-over-ukraine/sanctions-against-russia-explained/

    Nord Stream explosions - 27 September

    Via above timeline, Putin/Russia had a plan B with China, and was
    fully aware of EU sanctions before NSs' pipes exploded.

    NS1 was operating at reduced capacity

    Russia has been reducing gas supplies through Nord Stream 1 for a
    number of months.
    ...
    ...
    Over the past year, Russia has cut its gas supplies to EU states by
    88%, according to Mr Fyfe.

    Wholesale prices of gas in Europe have more than doubled over the same period, he says.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60131520


    Why sell more when you can just raise the price on what you do sell?

    I'd have to pin down existing gas contracts, and if Russia was selling
    on the open market to confirm your thinking.

    BBC article cited suggests prices were rising before NS explosions

    It's true Biden said, "If Russia invades...then there will be no
    longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it." https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-meet-german-chancellor-urge-united-front-amid/story?id=82712888

    But, when NS's explosions happened, Russia was already "choking"
    European countries, by reducing gas flow. And, Germany stalled on
    certifying NS2.

    Again, Putin had a plan B back on Feb 4....


    Still no news?


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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Sep 20 19:08:03 2023
    On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 19:07:22 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Still no news?

    See second article....

    Marine Link
    Swedish Prosecutor Hopes To Conclude Nord Stream https://www.marinelink.com/news/swedish-prosecutor-hopes-conclude-nord-508186

    Spiegel
    Investigating the Nord Stream Attack: All the Evidence Points To Kyiv https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/investigating-the-attack-on-nord-stream-all-the-clues-point-toward-kyiv-a-124838c7-992a-4d0e-9894-942d4a665778

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 11 06:37:00 2023
    Another Topic


    Repairing Finland-Estonia Gas Pipeline May Take Months

    Repairing a subsea gas pipeline connecting Finland and Estonia that
    was shut on Sunday due to a suspected leak could take months or more
    if a puncture is confirmed, Finnish gas system operator Gasgrid said.

    The Balticconnector pipeline suffered a sharp drop in pressure, and
    work is ongoing to confirm the exact location and cause of the outage
    in the coming days, the company said in a statement.

    "If it appears that the unusual pressure drop observed in the morning
    of Oct. 8...is due to a leak (that) caused damage to the pipe, repair
    work may take at least several months depending on nature of the
    damage," Gasgrid said.

    The valves of the pipeline have been shut to prevent more gas from
    escaping.

    The 77 km (48 miles) Balticconnector pipeline between Inkoo in Finland
    and Paldiski in Estonia crosses the Gulf of Finland, an arm of the
    Baltic Sea that stretches eastwards into Russian waters and ends at
    the port of St Petersburg.

    In 2022, the larger Nord Stream gas pipelines under the Baltic Sea
    between Russia and Germany were damaged by explosions that authorities
    have said were deliberate acts of sabotage.

    Sunday's drop in pressure was registered just before 2 a.m. local time
    (2300 GMT) by Gasgrid in Finland and Estonian gas transmission system
    operator Elering.

    Hourly data from Elering showed a sudden drop in pipeline pressure at
    2300 GMT from 34.5 bar to around 12 bar and then a further decline one
    hour later to just 6 bar, suggesting the contents had leaked into the
    ocean.

    Unlike the blasts that destroyed Nord Stream, which were detected by
    earthquake measurement stations, there was no immediate sign of
    seismic activity near Balticconnect, according to data from Norway's
    Norsar and the University of Helsinki.

    The pipeline, which can export in either direction depending on where
    demand is greatest, was transporting a volume of around 30 gigawatt
    hours of gas per day from Finland to Estonia at the time of the
    incident, Gasgrid said earlier.

    https://gcaptain.com/repairing-finland-estonia-gas-pipeline-may-take-months/

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Oct 24 21:54:44 2023
    On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 06:37:00 -0500, JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Another Topic

    Repairing Finland-Estonia Gas Pipeline May Take Months

    Finland says gas pipeline likely broken by ship dragging anchor


    Damage to a Baltic Sea gas pipeline earlier this month is believed to
    have been caused by a ship dragging a large anchor along the seabed,
    but it was too early to tell if this was an accident or a deliberate
    act, Finnish police said on Tuesday.

    Investigators said they had now retrieved a lost anchor from the
    seabed location where the pipeline ruptured on Oct. 8, and were
    investigating whether it belonged to a Chinese container vessel.

    Police have previously said damage to the Balticconnector subsea gas
    pipeline and two Baltic Sea telecoms cables was cause by external
    mechanical force and were investigating whether this was a case of
    sabotage or caused by accident.

    Broad drag marks were seen on the seabed leading up to where the
    pipeline was broken, and the anchor was lying immediately after the
    damage spot. A narrower path was seen on the seabed stretching onwards
    for dozens of miles, police said.

    A piece of the anchor, one of its two spikes, had broken off, they
    added.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/finland-retrieves-anchor-seabed-near-broken-gas-pipeline-2023-10-24/

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri Oct 27 19:44:19 2023
    On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 06:37:00 -0500, JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Another Topic
    Repairing Finland-Estonia Gas Pipeline May Take Months


    One of the key questions investigators are still trying to answer is
    whether the incident was accidental or deliberate.

    In Finland, a top defence official told Reuters that while subsea
    cable ruptures are quite common worldwide due to negligence or poor
    seamanship, the pipeline incident was "really suspicious" and "not a
    routine case".

    "There are several factors related to this that ring alarm bells,"
    Janne Kuusela, the director general of the Finnish defence ministry
    said in an interview, without giving specifics.

    "Has there been some kind of a state actor behind this and on what
    kind of mandate? These things need to be verified before any robust counter-action could be taken," he said.

    Reuters has reported that two vessels, the NewNew Polar Bear and the Russia-flagged Sevmorput, were present at all three sites around the
    time of the damage, according to data from MarineTraffic, a
    ship-tracking and maritime analytics provider.
    ...
    ...
    China said it was willing to provide the necessary information in
    accordance with international law. Russia has dismissed as "rubbish"
    the idea that it was involved.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/three-baltic-pipe-cable-incidents-are-related-estonia-says-2023-10-27/

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