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  • Re: Putin has less than 36 hours to respond

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 10 21:59:24 2025
    "Together with Trump, we will increase military aid to Ukraine if
    putin refuses to cease fire,"

    "All of us here, together with the US, are calling Putin out. If he's
    serious about peace, then he has a chance to show it now,"

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 10 21:57:09 2025
    European leaders issue ceasefire ultimatum to Putin or face 'massive'
    sanctions & weapons transfers to Ukraine.

    Putin has less than 36 hours to respond.

    https://x.com/tweet4Anna_NAFO/status/1921255378043490743

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to JAB on Sun May 11 11:21:22 2025
    On Sat, 10 May 2025 21:59:24 -0500, JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

    "Together with Trump, we will increase military aid to Ukraine if
    putin refuses to cease fire,"

    "All of us here, together with the US, are calling Putin out. If he's
    serious about peace, then he has a chance to show it now,"

    politico.eu
    Zelenskyy says Kyiv will talk to Moscow only after Putin accepts
    ceasefire
    ==================

    I suspect Putin wants to have his cake, so he is not wanting to make
    an agreement respecting Ukraine.

    Bombing where civilians live is not a military target, which he has
    violated many times. Europe/US should have poured on the military
    support in earlier days, and dealt with the annexation of Crimea.

    Give someone an inch and they'll take a mile...which Russia does.

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri May 30 11:49:03 2025
    On Sat, 10 May 2025 21:57:09 -0500
    JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

    European leaders issue ceasefire ultimatum to Putin or face 'massive' sanctions & weapons transfers to Ukraine.

    Putin has less than 36 hours to respond.

    https://x.com/tweet4Anna_NAFO/status/1921255378043490743

    I've been away, did Putin agreed and withdraw from Ukraine?

    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri May 30 11:56:42 2025
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 11:49:03 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I've been away, did Putin agreed and withdraw from Ukraine?

    "Putin has rejected a proposed 30-day ceasefire after Ukraine agreed
    to one, was a no-show at talks in Istanbul, where Zelenskyy had
    proposed meeting face-to-face, and has rejected Trump's proposal to
    have talks mediated by the Vatican."

    https://www.vox.com/world-politics/414948/ukraine-hasnt-won-over-trump-but-it-might-not-need-to

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to JAB on Sat May 31 11:37:31 2025
    On Fri, 30 May 2025 11:56:42 -0500
    JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Fri, 30 May 2025 11:49:03 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I've been away, did Putin agreed and withdraw from Ukraine?

    "Putin has rejected a proposed 30-day ceasefire after Ukraine agreed
    to one, was a no-show at talks in Istanbul, where Zelenskyy had
    proposed meeting face-to-face, and has rejected Trump's proposal to
    have talks mediated by the Vatican."

    https://www.vox.com/world-politics/414948/ukraine-hasnt-won-over-trump-but-it-might-not-need-to


    So have "Massive" extra sanctions brought Russia to it's knees? Maybe not
    yet. Trump is so in Putin's pocket.

    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat May 31 08:33:13 2025
    On Sat, 31 May 2025 11:37:31 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    "Massive" extra sanctions brought Russia to it's knees?

    Trump ain't got the balls to do it....I'm not current with Europe's
    intentions.

    During Trump 1 era.....positive towards Putin

    80 times Trump talked about Putin https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/03/politics/trump-putin-russia-timeline/

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to John" on Sat May 31 13:37:06 2025
    On Sat, 31 May 2025 11:37:31 +0100
    "Kerr-Mudd, John" <[email protected]> wrote:

    So have "Massive" extra sanctions brought Russia to it's knees? Maybe not yet. Trump is so in Putin's pocket.

    Yeah, the front left one, right next to the nutsack.

    Putin has shown Russia to be astoundingly resilient to "massive"
    sanctions.

    Also, I applaud Europe finally turning more aggressive, but the threats
    and deadlines don't come across convincingly yet, after decades of
    Brussels blather and European inaction. Still, a step in the right
    direction! This might have worked had Trump&Co not turned Turncoat.

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