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  • The "Invasion" Executive Order

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 26 20:52:28 2025
    January 28, 2025

    What Just Happened: The "Invasion" Executive Order and Its Dangerous Implications

    A number of crucial issues in immigration law and policy now turn on
    the meaning of a previously little-noticed term in the Constitution: "invasion." The Trump administration and some red state governments
    claim that illegal migration and drug smuggling across the southern
    border qualify as "invasion" under the Constitution and the Alien
    Enemies Act of 1798. If this ill-founded argument is not rejected by
    the courts, it would have dangerous and far-reaching implications.
    Among other things, it would empower the federal government to detain
    people without charge or trial, and open the door for states to engage
    in war with neighboring foreign nations without congressional
    authorization.

    https://www.justsecurity.org/106953/invasion-executive-order-implications/

    "Trump is "preparing to invoke" Alien Enemies Act"

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Feb 27 08:02:39 2025
    On Thu, 27 Feb 2025 14:28:09 +0100, D <[email protected]> wrote:

    Among other things, it would empower the federal government to detain
    people without charge or trial, and open the door for states to engage

    Isn't this already the case when it comes to arrivals at international >airports?

    open the door for states to engage in war with neighboring
    foreign nations without congressional authorization.

    I'm not aware of this being active....

    detain people without charge or trial

    AI Overview

    Military given go-ahead to detain US terrorist suspects ...
    Yes, the US has detained people without charge or trial, including at Guantanamo Bay and under the Patriot Act. The American Civil Liberties
    Union (ACLU) says this practice is unconstitutional and un-American

    arrivals at international airports?

    Border officials follow specific rules and regulations at the port of
    entry and may detain individuals who fail to meet certain conditions
    required under U.S. immigration laws. Some of the most common reasons
    for airport detention include the following:
    ...
    ...
    https://attlaw.com/airport-detention/

    If a suspected or known terrorist, do not attempt to enter US.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Feb 27 10:57:56 2025
    On Thu, 27 Feb 2025 14:28:09 +0100, D <[email protected]> wrote:

    Isn't this already the case

    On a different note....immigration detainees on US soil

    AI Overview

    Yes, holding immigration detainees is legal in the United States under
    certain circumstances. The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA)
    authorizes the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to detain
    non-citizens who are subject to removal

    https://www.ice.gov/immigration-detainers

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Sun Mar 2 11:57:04 2025
    On Thu, 27 Feb 2025, JAB wrote:

    On Thu, 27 Feb 2025 14:28:09 +0100, D <[email protected]> wrote:

    Among other things, it would empower the federal government to detain
    people without charge or trial, and open the door for states to engage

    Isn't this already the case when it comes to arrivals at international
    airports?

    open the door for states to engage in war with neighboring
    foreign nations without congressional authorization.

    I'm not aware of this being active....

    detain people without charge or trial

    AI Overview

    Military given go-ahead to detain US terrorist suspects ...
    Yes, the US has detained people without charge or trial, including at Guantanamo Bay and under the Patriot Act. The American Civil Liberties
    Union (ACLU) says this practice is unconstitutional and un-American

    arrivals at international airports?

    Border officials follow specific rules and regulations at the port of
    entry and may detain individuals who fail to meet certain conditions
    required under U.S. immigration laws. Some of the most common reasons
    for airport detention include the following:
    ...
    ...
    https://attlaw.com/airport-detention/

    If a suspected or known terrorist, do not attempt to enter US.

    Or a nazi! Don't go to the US if you're a nazi!

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 2 12:24:13 2025
    D wrote:

    On Thu, 27 Feb 2025, JAB wrote:

    If a suspected or known terrorist, do not attempt to enter
    US.

    Or a nazi! Don't go to the US if you're a nazi!

    Yeah, you might get elected... or become a special advisor to
    the President! ;-)

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