Tech's takeover of show business has turned everything into streaming.
...
...
...
This is the landscape in which the sad state of home video continued deteriorating in 2024. Best Buy ceased carrying DVDs this year. Target
followed suit. Redbox rented its final Liam Neeson movie and shuttered
its kiosks in July. Finally, LG announced just last week that it would discontinue all its UHD Blu-ray and Blu-ray players, joining Samsung
and Sony in ditching the optical drive.

https://www.avclub.com/death-of-dvd-death-of-streaming-physical-media

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On Fri, 27 Dec 2024, JAB wrote:

Tech's takeover of show business has turned everything into streaming.
...
...
...
This is the landscape in which the sad state of home video continued deteriorating in 2024. Best Buy ceased carrying DVDs this year. Target followed suit. Redbox rented its final Liam Neeson movie and shuttered
its kiosks in July. Finally, LG announced just last week that it would discontinue all its UHD Blu-ray and Blu-ray players, joining Samsung
and Sony in ditching the optical drive.

https://www.avclub.com/death-of-dvd-death-of-streaming-physical-media

This is not so good. Buying some type of media that I own, forever, is
very powerful and an expression of freedom.

Renting everything, music, books, videos, art, transportation, quickly
becomes very expensive. Please do not do it!

I have a hueg pirated library of books, music and video, and it has
probably saved me tens of thousands of dollars, and if the internet goes
down, I can still enjoy all of it on my local networks! =D

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On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 17:05:33 -0500, Auric Hellman
<[email protected]> wrote:

Not every store is doing bad

This too, will come to an end...when returned DVDs are broken.

Consumers screwed their DVD pooch when they just had to have
streaming.

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On 12/27/2024 12:28 PM, JAB wrote:

Tech's takeover of show business has turned everything into streaming.
...
...
...
This is the landscape in which the sad state of home video continued deteriorating in 2024. Best Buy ceased carrying DVDs this year. Target followed suit. Redbox rented its final Liam Neeson movie and shuttered
its kiosks in July. Finally, LG announced just last week that it would discontinue all its UHD Blu-ray and Blu-ray players, joining Samsung
and Sony in ditching the optical drive.

https://www.avclub.com/death-of-dvd-death-of-streaming-physical-media

Just like all outdated tech, it will live on for a long time. We still
sell lots of DVD's, some as cheap as $1 each, where I work. There are
tons and tons and tons of optical drives/DVD players floating around out
there, that can be had for pennies on the dollar. We buy 25 cent Disney
VHS tapes at Goodwill for the kids to watch. You can still get used
VCR's dirt cheap.

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Michael Trew wrote:

On 12/27/2024 12:28 PM, JAB wrote:

Tech's takeover of show business has turned everything into
streaming.

This is the landscape in which the sad state of home video
continued deteriorating in 2024. Best Buy ceased carrying
DVDs this year. Target followed suit. Redbox rented its
final Liam Neeson movie and shuttered its kiosks in July.
Finally, LG announced just last week that it would
discontinue all its UHD Blu-ray and Blu-ray players, joining
Samsung and Sony in ditching the optical drive.

https://www.avclub.com/death-of-dvd-death-of-streaming-physical-media

Just like all outdated tech, it will live on for a long time.
We still sell lots of DVD's, some as cheap as $1 each, where I
work. There are tons and tons and tons of optical drives/DVD
players floating around out there, that can be had for pennies
on the dollar. We buy 25 cent Disney VHS tapes at Goodwill
for the kids to watch. You can still get used VCR's dirt
cheap.

People still buy LP's... they went out of fashion decades ago
and came back. Every big shop seems to sell records now! So I
wouldn't write off physical media just yet.

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On Sun, 29 Dec 2024, Michael Trew wrote:

On 12/27/2024 12:28 PM, JAB wrote:

Tech's takeover of show business has turned everything into streaming.
...
...
...
This is the landscape in which the sad state of home video continued
deteriorating in 2024. Best Buy ceased carrying DVDs this year. Target
followed suit. Redbox rented its final Liam Neeson movie and shuttered
its kiosks in July. Finally, LG announced just last week that it would
discontinue all its UHD Blu-ray and Blu-ray players, joining Samsung
and Sony in ditching the optical drive.

https://www.avclub.com/death-of-dvd-death-of-streaming-physical-media

Just like all outdated tech, it will live on for a long time. We still sell lots of DVD's, some as cheap as $1 each, where I work. There are tons and tons and tons of optical drives/DVD players floating around out there, that can be had for pennies on the dollar. We buy 25 cent Disney VHS tapes at Goodwill for the kids to watch. You can still get used VCR's dirt cheap.

I often thought about dropping a 1000 USD or so, on a nice selection of
DVD:s, and then just scan them to the computer. Another thing I thought
about is simply going through estates and probably getting 1000s of DVD:s
for free.

In my country it is legal to share DVD:s between people and watch them
together in private.

I imagine that ripping all those DVD:s to a common disk, it should be
possible, within the limits of the law, to build up quite a nice
non-profit video repository! =)

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On Mon, 30 Dec 2024, Blueshirt wrote:

Michael Trew wrote:

On 12/27/2024 12:28 PM, JAB wrote:

Tech's takeover of show business has turned everything into
streaming.

This is the landscape in which the sad state of home video
continued deteriorating in 2024. Best Buy ceased carrying
DVDs this year. Target followed suit. Redbox rented its
final Liam Neeson movie and shuttered its kiosks in July.
Finally, LG announced just last week that it would
discontinue all its UHD Blu-ray and Blu-ray players, joining
Samsung and Sony in ditching the optical drive.

https://www.avclub.com/death-of-dvd-death-of-streaming-physical-media

Just like all outdated tech, it will live on for a long time.
We still sell lots of DVD's, some as cheap as $1 each, where I
work. There are tons and tons and tons of optical drives/DVD
players floating around out there, that can be had for pennies
on the dollar. We buy 25 cent Disney VHS tapes at Goodwill
for the kids to watch. You can still get used VCR's dirt
cheap.

People still buy LP's... they went out of fashion decades ago
and came back. Every big shop seems to sell records now! So I
wouldn't write off physical media just yet.

It could be the next hipster wave!

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On 12/30/2024 3:04 AM, Blueshirt wrote:

Michael Trew wrote:

Just like all outdated tech, it will live on for a long time.
We still sell lots of DVD's, some as cheap as $1 each, where I
work. There are tons and tons and tons of optical drives/DVD
players floating around out there, that can be had for pennies
on the dollar. We buy 25 cent Disney VHS tapes at Goodwill
for the kids to watch. You can still get used VCR's dirt
cheap.

People still buy LP's... they went out of fashion decades ago
and came back. Every big shop seems to sell records now! So I
wouldn't write off physical media just yet.

Yup, one of my part-time jobs is at an antique mall. Aside from DVD's,
we sell plenty of used LP's. Lately, I'm surprised to see so many *new* records at retail stores.

What's funny is a couple of years ago, LP's surpassed CD's as the most
popular physical media again... Consider that CD's surpassed the LP
back in the late 80's or so.

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On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 21:29:23 -0500, Michael Trew
<[email protected]> wrote:

LP's surpassed CD's as the most
popular physical media again...

"Vinyl record sales have been outpacing CD sales in the United States
for the past two years......However, streaming still accounts for the
majority of music revenue, accounting for 84% in 2022."

I don't follow this topic, but CD quality is good, better than a LP,
but a good CD player is required, along with a good amp/speakers.

"Pretty much NO cd player since about 1983 has actually run its D/A
converters at 44.1kHz/16 bit, they have ALL used oversampling in one
form or another." https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/16-bit-vs-24-bit-cd-player.753729/

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On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 21:29:23 -0500, Michael Trew
<[email protected]> wrote:

LP's surpassed CD's as the most
popular physical media again...

If those listening want the best quality, then High Resolution Audio

https://www.cambridgeaudio.com/usa/en/blog/what-is-high-resolution-audio

but, higher end equipment is needed.

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On Mon, 30 Dec 2024, Michael Trew wrote:

On 12/30/2024 3:04 AM, Blueshirt wrote:

Michael Trew wrote:

Just like all outdated tech, it will live on for a long time.
We still sell lots of DVD's, some as cheap as $1 each, where I
work. There are tons and tons and tons of optical drives/DVD
players floating around out there, that can be had for pennies
on the dollar. We buy 25 cent Disney VHS tapes at Goodwill
for the kids to watch. You can still get used VCR's dirt
cheap.

People still buy LP's... they went out of fashion decades ago
and came back. Every big shop seems to sell records now! So I
wouldn't write off physical media just yet.

Yup, one of my part-time jobs is at an antique mall. Aside from DVD's, we sell plenty of used LP's. Lately, I'm surprised to see so many *new* records at retail stores.

What's funny is a couple of years ago, LP's surpassed CD's as the most popular physical media again... Consider that CD's surpassed the LP back in the late 80's or so.

I think LP, CD and casette move in various hipsters cycles. LP is the king
now, but I read that casettes arecoming back for that "warm magnetic
sound". ;)

The wife loves LP:s, and since I loathe renting my movies and music from
web 2.0 companies, I support her fully in her quest for LP:s.

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On Mon, 30 Dec 2024, JAB wrote:

On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 21:29:23 -0500, Michael Trew
<[email protected]> wrote:

LP's surpassed CD's as the most
popular physical media again...

"Vinyl record sales have been outpacing CD sales in the United States
for the past two years......However, streaming still accounts for the majority of music revenue, accounting for 84% in 2022."

I don't follow this topic, but CD quality is good, better than a LP,
but a good CD player is required, along with a good amp/speakers.

"Pretty much NO cd player since about 1983 has actually run its D/A converters at 44.1kHz/16 bit, they have ALL used oversampling in one
form or another." https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/16-bit-vs-24-bit-cd-player.753729/

Science has proven that CD:s are also more durable than LP:s. LP:s degrade
when you play them, CD:s don't. How much they degrade, I do not know and I
also do not know if this is audiophile territory or if a mere human can
hear a difference or not.

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On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 12:31:08 +0100, D <[email protected]> wrote:

I also do not know if this is audiophile territory or if a mere
human can hear a difference or not.

There are poor quality CDs produced, and CD quality produced. A LP is
better when compared to a poor quality CD.

However, streaming still accounts for the
majority of music revenue, accounting for 84% in 2022."

Most streaming is lower quality than a CD quality.

And to hear high quality music requires an investment in a CD Player,
Amp, and Speakers.

As a minimum
https://7review.com/arcam-radia-cd5-review/

this is audiophile territory

I suspect people with good hearing could perceive differences, but A/B comparisons would be needed.

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On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 12:24:49 +0100, D <[email protected]> wrote:

LP is the king now,

If those listening want the best quality, then High Resolution Audio

https://www.cambridgeaudio.com/usa/en/blog/what-is-high-resolution-audio

but, higher end equipment is needed.

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On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 12:31:08 +0100, D <[email protected]> wrote:

audiophile territory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7EPxu7jUtw

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On Tue, 31 Dec 2024, JAB wrote:

On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 12:31:08 +0100, D <[email protected]> wrote:

audiophile territory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7EPxu7jUtw

Wow... I'm lucky not to be an audiophile. =) Are you an audiophile?

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On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 12:27:40 +0100, D <[email protected]> wrote:

Are you an audiophile?

I use to own and use this Revox when it was produced new
================

Revox has embarked on reconditioning these iconic devices https://revoxaudio.com/product/a77-tape-recoder/

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On Wed, 1 Jan 2025, JAB wrote:

On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 12:27:40 +0100, D <[email protected]> wrote:

Are you an audiophile?

I use to own and use this Revox when it was produced new
================

Revox has embarked on reconditioning these iconic devices https://revoxaudio.com/product/a77-tape-recoder/

Interesting! Surely this must have gotten you many beautiful women?

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JAB wrote:
Tech's takeover of show business has turned everything into

streaming.

....
....
....
This is the landscape in which the sad state of home video

continued

deteriorating in 2024. Best Buy ceased carrying DVDs this year.

Target

followed suit. Redbox rented its final Liam Neeson movie and

shuttered

its kiosks in July. Finally, LG announced just last week that it

would

discontinue all its UHD Blu-ray and Blu-ray players, joining

Samsung

and Sony in ditching the optical drive.

https://www.avclub.com/death-of-dvd-death-of-streaming-physical-media

Not
true. You can still buy DVD ( Personally I would go for the Blu-ray )
video discs. Personally it is more about nomad culture or the idea
that
"You can not afford to rent so you move about and still have your
crap" or military culture AKA "US citizens being used as
shields for racist-communists called Zionist Israel.


This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=680965385#680965385

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On 12/30/2024 11:26 PM, JAB wrote:

On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 21:29:23 -0500, Michael Trew
<[email protected]> wrote:

LP's surpassed CD's as the most
popular physical media again...

"Vinyl record sales have been outpacing CD sales in the United States
for the past two years......However, streaming still accounts for the majority of music revenue, accounting for 84% in 2022."

I don't follow this topic, but CD quality is good, better than a LP,
but a good CD player is required, along with a good amp/speakers.

CD quality is better than streaming, and typically better than vinyl,
but audiophiles might disagree with you. CD's are digital and, if the conditions are right, analog (vinyl) sound can be warmer and have more
depth.

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On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 14:53:02 -0500, Michael Trew <[email protected]>
wrote:

CD quality is better than streaming, and typically better than vinyl,
but audiophiles might disagree with you. CD's are digital and, if the >conditions are right, analog (vinyl) sound can be warmer and have more
depth.

AI Overview

Technically, a CD is considered to have better sound quality than
vinyl based on its ability to accurately reproduce a wider range of
frequencies and with less distortion, but many people prefer the
"warm" analog sound of vinyl due to its unique sonic characteristics,
making the "better" choice a matter of personal preference
===========

That said, it depends upon how "they" reproduce CDs and vinyl

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On 1/8/2025 5:17 PM, JAB wrote:

On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 14:53:02 -0500, Michael Trew <[email protected]>
wrote:

CD quality is better than streaming, and typically better than vinyl,
but audiophiles might disagree with you. CD's are digital and, if the
conditions are right, analog (vinyl) sound can be warmer and have more
depth.

AI Overview

Technically, a CD is considered to have better sound quality than
vinyl based on its ability to accurately reproduce a wider range of frequencies and with less distortion, but many people prefer the
"warm" analog sound of vinyl due to its unique sonic characteristics,
making the "better" choice a matter of personal preference
===========

That said, it depends upon how "they" reproduce CDs and vinyl

I suspect that 9 times out of 10, CD quality is better. Playing vinyl
is more of a nostalgic/quaint thing.

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