• 'drill, baby, drill'

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 27 21:48:26 2024
    US oil firms unlikely to go 'drill, baby, drill' under Trump, says
    Exxon executive

    U.S. oil and gas producers are unlikely to radically increase
    production under president-elect Donald Trump as companies remain
    focused on capital discipline, a senior executive at Exxon Mobil
    (XOM.N), said on Tuesday.

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/us-oil-producers-unlikely-shift-drill-baby-drill-mode-says-exxon-executive-2024-11-26/

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Thu Nov 28 11:02:04 2024
    On Wed, 27 Nov 2024, JAB wrote:

    US oil firms unlikely to go 'drill, baby, drill' under Trump, says
    Exxon executive

    U.S. oil and gas producers are unlikely to radically increase
    production under president-elect Donald Trump as companies remain
    focused on capital discipline, a senior executive at Exxon Mobil
    (XOM.N), said on Tuesday.

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/us-oil-producers-unlikely-shift-drill-baby-drill-mode-says-exxon-executive-2024-11-26/

    It is very simple. If there is a demand, there will be drilling. Looking
    at my sweet, sweet, dividends and capital gains, I'd say that there is a demand! =)

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Auric Hellman on Fri Nov 29 10:51:55 2024
    On Fri, 29 Nov 2024, Auric Hellman wrote:

    On 11/28/2024 5:02 AM, D wrote:


    On Wed, 27 Nov 2024, JAB wrote:

    US oil firms unlikely to go 'drill, baby, drill' under Trump, says
    Exxon executive

    U.S. oil and gas producers are unlikely to radically increase
    production under president-elect Donald Trump as companies remain
    focused on capital discipline, a senior executive at Exxon Mobil
    (XOM.N), said on Tuesday.

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/us-oil-producers-unlikely-
    shift-drill-baby-drill-mode-says-exxon-executive-2024-11-26/

    It is very simple. If there is a demand, there will be drilling. Looking at >> my sweet, sweet, dividends and capital gains, I'd say that there is a
    demand! =)


    What still has not ever been adequately explained to me is why do the oil companies control the crude that has been drilled on American territory. This oil belongs to the American people, not the oil companies

    This I can easily explain! The US is more or less a capitalist country,
    built on strong property rights. That means the US oil belongs to the
    owners of the land under which it resides, that is, the companies.

    So by extension it is owned by the companies and the share holders of the companies, and sold on the semi-free market.

    The beautiful thing is, you can also become an owner of oil in the US by
    buying shares in these companies, so ownership is open to anyone, and in
    the form of dividend, the profits are distributed equally to all owners, according to their shares.

    This is more equal and democratic, than any other socialist nation, where
    the oil money goes to the government and the politicians, and the people
    seldom see a penny of that money.

    One exception is Alaska, and they have a state-tax (?) or something, and
    the money is then distributed to the inhabitans in alaska. I do not hav a
    lot of details, but let us pray that some fellow group member can fill us
    in on the details! =)

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Nov 29 12:14:23 2024
    On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:51:55 +0100, D <[email protected]> wrote:

    Alaska

    AI Overview

    Alaska citizens receive a share of the state's oil revenue through the
    annual Permanent Fund Dividend (PFD):

    How it works
    The PFD is an annual payment to Alaska residents that comes from
    the investment earnings of mineral royalties. The fund is a sovereign
    wealth fund that receives a portion of oil and mining revenues each
    year. The money is invested in a diversified portfolio, and the
    returns contribute to the fund's growth.

    Eligibility
    To be eligible for the PFD, you must:

    Have lived in Alaska for a full calendar year (January 1-December
    31)

    Intend to remain an Alaska resident indefinitely

    Return to Alaska for at least 72 consecutive hours every two years and
    30 cumulative days every five years

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Nov 29 11:30:59 2024
    On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:51:55 +0100, D <[email protected]> wrote:

    That means the US oil belongs to the owners of the land
    under which it resides, that is, the companies.

    Land owners and Uncle Sam have leased their land to oil companies, who
    drill for oil/gas.

    AI Overview

    No, oil companies typically do not own the land they drill on;
    instead, they lease mineral rights from landowners, meaning they pay
    to access and extract oil and gas beneath the surface of the land,
    without owning the surface land itself. ===============================================

    One exception is Alaska, and they have a state-tax (?) or something, and
    the money is then distributed to the inhabitans in alaska.

    AI Overview

    Yes, all US states that produce oil or natural gas can tax oil
    production:

    Ad valorem taxes: These taxes can be based on the value of the
    property, the value of the equipment, or the fair market value of the
    natural resources.

    Severance taxes: Also known as gross production taxes, these taxes are
    imposed on the extraction of non-renewable resources like oil, natural
    gas, and coal. At least 36 states impose a severance tax, and 31 of
    those states tax the extraction of oil and gas.

    Local property taxes: These taxes are levied on the value of oil and
    gas property.

    Oil and gas lease revenues: These revenues come from state and federal
    lands.

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri Nov 29 20:10:19 2024
    On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 12:14:23 -0600
    JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:
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    Eligibility
    To be eligible for the PFD, you must:

    Have lived in Alaska for a full calendar year (January 1-December
    31)

    Intend to remain an Alaska resident indefinitely

    Return to Alaska for at least 72 consecutive hours every two years and
    30 cumulative days every five years

    Wow that much! Sounds like an easy win for some. I guess you (generic)
    let out the cabin for the rest of the time.

    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Nov 29 14:49:32 2024
    On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 14:34:39 -0500, Auric Hellman
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    A large number (?) of Americans
    either know nothing about or can afford to invest in stocks.

    A large number of stockbrokers know little about stocks, too. They
    echo what the higher ups want them to suggest. They are just sales
    reps...who are not deciding what's what, like W. Buffet does.

    Company evaluations requires time in the reading saddle, and
    stockbrokers spend their time calling clients.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri Nov 29 22:47:15 2024
    On Fri, 29 Nov 2024, JAB wrote:

    On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:51:55 +0100, D <[email protected]> wrote:

    Alaska

    AI Overview

    Alaska citizens receive a share of the state's oil revenue through the
    annual Permanent Fund Dividend (PFD):

    How it works
    The PFD is an annual payment to Alaska residents that comes from
    the investment earnings of mineral royalties. The fund is a sovereign
    wealth fund that receives a portion of oil and mining revenues each
    year. The money is invested in a diversified portfolio, and the
    returns contribute to the fund's growth.

    Eligibility
    To be eligible for the PFD, you must:

    Have lived in Alaska for a full calendar year (January 1-December
    31)

    Intend to remain an Alaska resident indefinitely

    Return to Alaska for at least 72 consecutive hours every two years and
    30 cumulative days every five years


    Thank you! Very interesting! Kind of like the norwegian oil fund.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Auric Hellman on Fri Nov 29 22:47:59 2024
    On Fri, 29 Nov 2024, Auric Hellman wrote:

    On 11/29/2024 4:51 AM, D wrote:


    On Fri, 29 Nov 2024, Auric Hellman wrote:

    On 11/28/2024 5:02 AM, D wrote:


    On Wed, 27 Nov 2024, JAB wrote:

    US oil firms unlikely to go 'drill, baby, drill' under Trump, says
    Exxon executive

    U.S. oil and gas producers are unlikely to radically increase
    production under president-elect Donald Trump as companies remain
    focused on capital discipline, a senior executive at Exxon Mobil
    (XOM.N), said on Tuesday.

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/us-oil-producers- unlikely- >>>>> shift-drill-baby-drill-mode-says-exxon-executive-2024-11-26/

    It is very simple. If there is a demand, there will be drilling. Looking >>>> at my sweet, sweet, dividends and capital gains, I'd say that there is a >>>> demand! =)


    What still has not ever been adequately explained to me is why do the oil >>> companies control the crude that has been drilled on American territory. >>> This oil belongs to the American people, not the oil companies

    This I can easily explain! The US is more or less a capitalist country,
    built on strong property rights. That means the US oil belongs to the
    owners of the land under which it resides, that is, the companies.

    So by extension it is owned by the companies and the share holders of the
    companies, and sold on the semi-free market.

    The beautiful thing is, you can also become an owner of oil in the US by
    buying shares in these companies, so ownership is open to anyone, and in
    the form of dividend, the profits are distributed equally to all owners,
    according to their shares.

    This is more equal and democratic, than any other socialist nation, where
    the oil money goes to the government and the politicians, and the people
    seldom see a penny of that money.

    One exception is Alaska, and they have a state-tax (?) or something, and
    the money is then distributed to the inhabitans in alaska. I do not hav a
    lot of details, but let us pray that some fellow group member can fill us
    in on the details! =)



    Eminent domain would solve land ownership and it would be up to Congress to resolve who gets what. A lot more good could come of that revenue than just making shareholders richer. A large number (?) of Americans either know nothing about or can afford to invest in stocks.

    That does not mean it cannot be changed! Let not the perfect be the enemy
    of the good.

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Auric Hellman on Wed Dec 4 11:29:25 2024
    On 11/29/2024 12:33 AM, Auric Hellman wrote:


    What still has not ever been adequately explained to me is why do the
    oil companies control the crude that has been drilled on American
    territory. This oil belongs to the American people, not the oil companies

    The land owners sell out their mineral rights.

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