• Trump Has Lost His Popular-Vote Majority

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 21 19:01:06 2024
    Trump Has Lost His Popular-Vote Majority

    On Election Night, with characteristic modesty, Donald Trump claimed
    an "unprecedented and powerful mandate." He certainly won the contest legitimately, if more narrowly than many observers initially thought.
    His popular-vote margin over Kamala Harris has dropped from around 3
    percent on the evening of November 5 (or about two-thirds of Joe
    Biden's margin in 2020) to 1.62 percent today. That's about a
    half-percent smaller than Hillary Clinton's national popular-vote
    margin over Trump in 2016. To make some other comparisons: Barack
    Obama won the popular vote by 3.9 percent in 2012 and 7.2 percent in
    2008, and George W. Bush won the popular vote by 2.4 percent in the
    very close 2004 election.

    Unlike Obama and Bush, moreover, Trump did not win a majority of the
    national popular vote. Though it looked like he was over 50 percent on
    Election Night, the steady drip of late ballots has eroded his
    percentage to (currently) 49.87 percent, with further slippage very
    likely before all the votes are in.

    Trump's win in the Electoral College was more impressive, though his
    316 electoral votes were less than Obama's in either of his elections
    and just above Biden's in 2020. In Pennsylvania, the "tipping point"
    state that clinched a second term for Trump, his margin over Harris
    was 1.8 percent, not exactly a landslide.

    So by any measure, the claim of an "unprecedented" mandate simply
    isn't true. Trump won a very close election and will govern a country
    where a near majority of people have voted against him three times.
    Yes, his party won control of Congress as well. But in the House, the
    margin of Republican control (with three contests still undecided) is
    so small that Trump's appointment of three representatives to Cabinet
    positions could make any controversial votes extremely difficult for
    House Speaker Mike Johnson until special elections are held, and very
    difficult even then.

    Given that perilous hold on power, Trump might want to reconsider his
    current strategy of ruling Washington like a devastated and occupied
    enemy city with a Cabinet largely composed of men and women who appear
    to hate the departments and agencies they are supposed to oversee,
    plus a governing plan that may rely on testing the tolerance of the
    federal judiciary for totally unparalleled assertions of supreme
    presidential powers. And Trump's MAGA base should also cool its jets a
    bit. There's certainly a degree of triumphalism in the air that really
    isn't justified by the election returns. Consider this take from RealClearPolitics columnist Frank Miele, who suggests Trump follow the
    U.S. Civil War model for subduing enemies:

    This time around, Trump knows he only has four years to fulfill his
    plans. So he's moving with lightning speed to do exactly what Abraham
    Lincoln accomplished in his four years in the White House: unite the
    country by demonstrating strength, wisdom, and patriotism.


    Lincoln's Confederate enemies, to be clear, seceded from the Union and
    launched a violent attack on U.S. military facilities that led to a
    conflict that killed over 2 percent of the nation's population,
    followed by the military occupation of rebel areas. If Trump and his
    supporters believe that's the kind of mandate the 47th president has
    somehow been given by a minority of Americans, we are all in a lot of
    trouble.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/election-results-show-trump-has-lost-popular-vote-majority.html

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri Nov 22 10:25:11 2024
    On Thu, 21 Nov 2024, JAB wrote:

    Trump Has Lost His Popular-Vote Majority

    On Election Night, with characteristic modesty, Donald Trump claimed
    an "unprecedented and powerful mandate." He certainly won the contest legitimately, if more narrowly than many observers initially thought.
    His popular-vote margin over Kamala Harris has dropped from around 3
    percent on the evening of November 5 (or about two-thirds of Joe
    Biden's margin in 2020) to 1.62 percent today. That's about a
    half-percent smaller than Hillary Clinton's national popular-vote
    margin over Trump in 2016. To make some other comparisons: Barack
    Obama won the popular vote by 3.9 percent in 2012 and 7.2 percent in
    2008, and George W. Bush won the popular vote by 2.4 percent in the
    very close 2004 election.

    Unlike Obama and Bush, moreover, Trump did not win a majority of the
    national popular vote. Though it looked like he was over 50 percent on Election Night, the steady drip of late ballots has eroded his
    percentage to (currently) 49.87 percent, with further slippage very
    likely before all the votes are in.

    Trump's win in the Electoral College was more impressive, though his
    316 electoral votes were less than Obama's in either of his elections
    and just above Biden's in 2020. In Pennsylvania, the "tipping point"
    state that clinched a second term for Trump, his margin over Harris
    was 1.8 percent, not exactly a landslide.

    So by any measure, the claim of an "unprecedented" mandate simply
    isn't true. Trump won a very close election and will govern a country
    where a near majority of people have voted against him three times.
    Yes, his party won control of Congress as well. But in the House, the
    margin of Republican control (with three contests still undecided) is
    so small that Trump's appointment of three representatives to Cabinet positions could make any controversial votes extremely difficult for
    House Speaker Mike Johnson until special elections are held, and very difficult even then.

    Given that perilous hold on power, Trump might want to reconsider his
    current strategy of ruling Washington like a devastated and occupied
    enemy city with a Cabinet largely composed of men and women who appear
    to hate the departments and agencies they are supposed to oversee,
    plus a governing plan that may rely on testing the tolerance of the
    federal judiciary for totally unparalleled assertions of supreme
    presidential powers. And Trump's MAGA base should also cool its jets a
    bit. There's certainly a degree of triumphalism in the air that really
    isn't justified by the election returns. Consider this take from RealClearPolitics columnist Frank Miele, who suggests Trump follow the
    U.S. Civil War model for subduing enemies:

    This time around, Trump knows he only has four years to fulfill his
    plans. So he's moving with lightning speed to do exactly what Abraham
    Lincoln accomplished in his four years in the White House: unite the
    country by demonstrating strength, wisdom, and patriotism.


    Lincoln's Confederate enemies, to be clear, seceded from the Union and launched a violent attack on U.S. military facilities that led to a
    conflict that killed over 2 percent of the nation's population,
    followed by the military occupation of rebel areas. If Trump and his supporters believe that's the kind of mandate the 47th president has
    somehow been given by a minority of Americans, we are all in a lot of trouble.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/election-results-show-trump-has-lost-popular-vote-majority.html



    Who cares? He is your king now! =)

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