• Trump Ordered to Pay $355 Million

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 16 16:05:55 2024
    NBC
    Judge fines Donald Trump more than $350 million, bars him from running businesses in N.Y. for three years
    ===============================

    The judgment, filed in New York County Supreme Court Friday, is a
    scathing rebuke of the former president's business prowess while at
    the helm of The Trump Organization and may leave him scrounging for
    cash to comply with the order by the 30-day deadline.

    https://commercialobserver.com/2024/02/trump-ruling-355m-penalty/

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 16 21:20:32 2024
    Pic
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGfEZPRXwAAz5K_.jpg

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Sat Feb 17 12:19:09 2024
    On Fri, 16 Feb 2024, JAB wrote:

    NBC
    Judge fines Donald Trump more than $350 million, bars him from running businesses in N.Y. for three years
    ===============================

    The judgment, filed in New York County Supreme Court Friday, is a
    scathing rebuke of the former president's business prowess while at
    the helm of The Trump Organization and may leave him scrounging for
    cash to comply with the order by the 30-day deadline.

    https://commercialobserver.com/2024/02/trump-ruling-355m-penalty/

    This is non-news. Let's wait for the appeals to start. There is a reason
    after all, why there's a majority of republicans in the highest court.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Feb 17 07:05:03 2024
    On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 12:19:09 +0100, D <[email protected]> wrote:

    There is a reason after all, why there's a
    majority of republicans in the highest court.

    I believe this case is NY's business only.

    All state based cases can't be accepted by SCOTUS
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    Writs of Certiorari

    Parties who are not satisfied with the decision of a lower court must
    petition the U.S. Supreme Court to hear their case. The primary means
    to petition the court for review is to ask it to grant a writ of
    certiorari. This is a request that the Supreme Court order a lower
    court to send up the record of the case for review. The Court usually
    is not under any obligation to hear these cases, and it usually only
    does so if the case could have national significance, might harmonize conflicting decisions in the federal Circuit courts, and/or could have precedential value. In fact, the Court accepts 100-150 of the more
    than 7,000 cases that it is asked to review each year. Typically, the
    Court hears cases that have been decided in either an appropriate U.S.
    Court of Appeals or the highest Court in a given state (if the state
    court decided a Constitutional issue).

    The Supreme Court has its own set of rules. According to these rules,
    four of the nine Justices must vote to accept a case. Five of the nine
    Justices must vote in order to grant a stay, e.g., a stay of execution
    in a death penalty case. Under certain instances, one Justice may
    grant a stay pending review by the entire Court.

    https://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/educational-resources/about-educational-outreach/activity-resources/supreme-1

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 17 07:56:12 2024
    Trump's crushing fraud trial defeat is a microcosm of a life defined
    by breaking all the rules

    Donald Trump's way of doing business is a window into his soul.

    So his devastating loss Friday in a New York fraud case that threatens
    the empire on which he built his art of the deal mythology
    encapsulates more than a legal defeat.

    It offers a character study of the behavior, beliefs and worldview
    that define the DNA of an irrepressible figure and unchained force who
    is again tearing at American unity, institutions, democracy and the
    rule of law as another contentious election looms.

    A trial, which Trump tainted with histrionics and contempt for the
    judicial system, and Judge Arthur Engoron's final, stinging judgment,
    revealed four foundational codes that explain Trump's tumultuous path
    through a life that he simply sees as an endless stream of business
    and political deals he must close.

    Trump thinks rules are for other people. He will always break them
    in seeking more wealth, more attention, or more votes.

    If reality doesn't get the ex-president what he wants, he conjures
    a new one.

    Trump is compelled always to fight -- even when stepping back
    would be smarter.

    And when accountability finally arrives, he sees justice as an act
    of persecution by his enemies.


    https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/17/politics/trump-fraud-trial-defeat-breaking-rules/index.html

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Sat Feb 17 18:21:18 2024
    On Sat, 17 Feb 2024, JAB wrote:

    On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 12:19:09 +0100, D <[email protected]> wrote:

    There is a reason after all, why there's a
    majority of republicans in the highest court.

    I believe this case is NY's business only.

    Let's wait and see.

    All state based cases can't be accepted by SCOTUS
    =====================

    Writs of Certiorari

    Parties who are not satisfied with the decision of a lower court must petition the U.S. Supreme Court to hear their case. The primary means
    to petition the court for review is to ask it to grant a writ of
    certiorari. This is a request that the Supreme Court order a lower
    court to send up the record of the case for review. The Court usually
    is not under any obligation to hear these cases, and it usually only
    does so if the case could have national significance, might harmonize conflicting decisions in the federal Circuit courts, and/or could have precedential value. In fact, the Court accepts 100-150 of the more
    than 7,000 cases that it is asked to review each year. Typically, the
    Court hears cases that have been decided in either an appropriate U.S.
    Court of Appeals or the highest Court in a given state (if the state
    court decided a Constitutional issue).

    The Supreme Court has its own set of rules. According to these rules,
    four of the nine Justices must vote to accept a case. Five of the nine Justices must vote in order to grant a stay, e.g., a stay of execution
    in a death penalty case. Under certain instances, one Justice may
    grant a stay pending review by the entire Court.

    https://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/educational-resources/about-educational-outreach/activity-resources/supreme-1


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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Feb 17 12:16:13 2024
    On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 18:21:18 +0100, D <[email protected]> wrote:

    Let's wait and see.

    On another note, someone put up a GoFundMe page for Trump

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGgH1GubQAARTC7.jpg

    but GoFundMe took it down

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGiwoIjWMAAKJyA.jpg

    PS:
    "542 ppl have donated so far.
    Totalling $23,488!
    ONLY $353,976,512 to go"

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 21 18:33:23 2024
    New York AG Letitia James says she's ready to seize Trump's assets if
    he can't pay the $354 million fine imposed on him and his companies in
    the state's civil fraud case.

    https://twitter.com/axios/status/1760351396900032722

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Feb 27 07:25:47 2024
    On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 12:16:13 -0600, JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Correction


    On another note, someone put up a GoFundMe page for Trump >https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGgH1GubQAARTC7.jpg
    but GoFundMe took it down
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGiwoIjWMAAKJyA.jpg

    Those rules, listed on the website's terms of service page, tell
    fundraisers not to use GoFundMe to raise money for "the legal defense
    of alleged financial and violent crimes."
    ..
    ..
    However, that rule wouldn't apply to this fundraiser. That's because
    the fundraiser is for a civil suit, not a criminal case, and because
    it's raising money to pay a fine, not a legal defense.
    ..
    ..
    Jalen Drummond, GoFundMe's director of public affairs, told VERIFY
    that "this fundraiser is currently within our terms of service."

    https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/verify/donald-trump/gofundme-trump-civil-fraud-355-million-fundraiser-new-york-legal-case-not-against-tos-rules/536-d958115d-5599-42a8-ad89-8663b57822c0

    Stand with Trump; Fund the $355M Unjust Judgment
    $1,260,344 raised of $355,000,000 goal
    757 people just donated https://www.gofundme.com/f/stand-with-trump-raise-the-settlement

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Feb 28 03:05:50 2024
    On 2024-02-27, JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 12:16:13 -0600, JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Correction


    On another note, someone put up a GoFundMe page for Trump >>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGgH1GubQAARTC7.jpg
    but GoFundMe took it down
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGiwoIjWMAAKJyA.jpg

    Those rules, listed on the website's terms of service page, tell
    fundraisers not to use GoFundMe to raise money for "the legal defense
    of alleged financial and violent crimes."

    Bwa ha ha, Gofundme, what a putz.

    Anyway he's got an elite gofundme, also known as a PAC. It's where
    suckers and losers line up in front of their trailer homes to give their hard-earned cash to this mega-grifter rapist/liar in support of his
    legal fees.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Feb 27 21:24:43 2024
    On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 03:05:50 GMT, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    he's got an elite gofundme, also known as a PAC.

    Not sure about paying a fine....


    CAN LEADERSHIP PACS BE USED TO PAY LEGAL FEES? The answer is tricky,
    according to legal experts. Generally, politicians cannot spend
    campaign money on legal expenses unless they are tied to a campaign,
    but many of the investigations involving Trump relate to his conduct
    as president and as a political candidate
    ...
    ...
    However, leadership PACs such as Save America also are not allowed to
    directly support their own candidate's campaign. Richard Briffault, a
    professor at Columbia Law School and an expert on campaign finance
    issues who has supported Democratic candidates, said that because
    Trump is fighting criminal charges during a presidential campaign, it
    is possible that covering legal fees could be considered a benefit to
    his campaign.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/can-trump-use-political-donations-pay-legal-defense-2023-08-01/

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