• "We must think about what is best, do you not agree?"

    From Found Elsewhere@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 11 00:43:09 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics

    ten says:
    2024-02-09 at 11:26

    I of course live in the socialist worker's paradise where healthcare is free and plenty and equal. All american lefties dream about our swedish free healthcare, but fail to mention the 65% tax rate. Oh well.

    When my greatmother got a cough, the doctor asked my grandpa "we must think about what is best, do you not agree?" and grandpa agreed, obviously, and suddenly greatmother was dead, 2 months before her 100th birthday. She was
    fine the week before! Vigorous, mentally clear, physically active. How about that.

    When grandpa got sick and needed hospitalization, he started losing weight rapidly. Exactly how much nutrients are you putting into him, asked dad? Is this not a problem? On current trajectories, he will be dead in weeks, and
    you aren't even talking about it? "We are just thinking about what is best.
    Do you not want to think about what is best?" Actually, dad didn't at all
    want to think about what was best. He made attempts at occupying the
    hospital room but was driven off by baton wielding goons. Grandpa started having severe pains, and they put him on rhino doses of morphine. Then they took the morphine away because of concerns for his health, and the doctors
    went to grandma instead of to dad, "look, he is in great suffering (cold
    turkey morphine withdrawal does that to a man, who knew!), must we not think about what is best?" and grandma agreed that it was time to think about what was best, and grandpa died a withered dehydrated husk.

    They would keep coming back to dad and try to make him think about what was best concerning grandma. But now he had enough and the glorious swedish
    social welfare healthcare didn't get to touch grandma at all. She was pretty confused and silly and immobile in the end. We visited too seldom. She loved her cat very much and the cat loved her. She smiled a lot every time we came and apologized that she hadn't baked anything for us. She kept trucking on
    for a decade without baking, and noone thought about what was best.

    I must stop now because if i tell the next two identical stories, it would
    be easy to identify me.

    Fuck these butchers to death.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Found Elsewhere on Sun Feb 11 12:00:51 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics

    On Sun, 11 Feb 2024, Found Elsewhere wrote:

    ten says:
    2024-02-09 at 11:26

    I of course live in the socialist worker's paradise where healthcare is free and plenty and equal. All american lefties dream about our swedish free healthcare, but fail to mention the 65% tax rate. Oh well.

    When my greatmother got a cough, the doctor asked my grandpa "we must think about what is best, do you not agree?" and grandpa agreed, obviously, and suddenly greatmother was dead, 2 months before her 100th birthday. She was fine the week before! Vigorous, mentally clear, physically active. How about that.

    When grandpa got sick and needed hospitalization, he started losing weight rapidly. Exactly how much nutrients are you putting into him, asked dad? Is this not a problem? On current trajectories, he will be dead in weeks, and you aren't even talking about it? "We are just thinking about what is best. Do you not want to think about what is best?" Actually, dad didn't at all want to think about what was best. He made attempts at occupying the
    hospital room but was driven off by baton wielding goons. Grandpa started having severe pains, and they put him on rhino doses of morphine. Then they took the morphine away because of concerns for his health, and the doctors went to grandma instead of to dad, "look, he is in great suffering (cold turkey morphine withdrawal does that to a man, who knew!), must we not think about what is best?" and grandma agreed that it was time to think about what was best, and grandpa died a withered dehydrated husk.

    They would keep coming back to dad and try to make him think about what was best concerning grandma. But now he had enough and the glorious swedish social welfare healthcare didn't get to touch grandma at all. She was pretty confused and silly and immobile in the end. We visited too seldom. She loved her cat very much and the cat loved her. She smiled a lot every time we came and apologized that she hadn't baked anything for us. She kept trucking on for a decade without baking, and noone thought about what was best.

    I must stop now because if i tell the next two identical stories, it would
    be easy to identify me.

    Fuck these butchers to death.


    I hear you. My mother died due to maltreatment in the famous swedish
    socialist healthcare system. I was awarded 8000 EUR in damages, so there
    you have the price of a life in sweden, when the government accidentally
    kills someone.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Feb 11 05:49:48 2024
    On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 12:00:51 +0100, D <[email protected]> wrote:

    maltreatment in ... healthcare system.

    This happens in all healthcare systems.

    Doctors are human, and do screw the pooch.
    Nurses are human, and do screw the pooch.
    ETC...."shit happens,"

    Oh, all planes are not safe...all vehicles are not safe, and disasters/calamities have killed millions since beginning of time.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to JAB on Sun Feb 11 18:41:34 2024
    On Sun, 11 Feb 2024, JAB wrote:

    On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 12:00:51 +0100, D <[email protected]> wrote:

    maltreatment in ... healthcare system.

    This happens in all healthcare systems.

    Doctors are human, and do screw the pooch.
    Nurses are human, and do screw the pooch.
    ETC...."shit happens,"

    Oh, all planes are not safe...all vehicles are not safe, and disasters/calamities have killed millions since beginning of time.

    Maybe, but you can compare infant mortality for instance in heavily
    socialist societies and heavily capitalist societies and marvel.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Feb 11 12:09:04 2024
    On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 18:41:34 +0100, D <[email protected]> wrote:

    Maybe, but you can compare infant mortality for instance in heavily
    socialist societies and heavily capitalist societies and marvel.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_mortality

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