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    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 16 21:42:54 2024
    Trump 'unleashed his followers' on E. Jean Carroll, her lawyer tells
    jury

    In her opening statement Tuesday, E. Jean Carroll's lawyer Shawn
    Crowley tells the jury in former President Donald Trump's second
    defamation trial that he "unleashed his followers to go after her" by continually denying her claim that he raped her in a department store
    changing room in the 1990s. Judge Lewis Kaplan tells prospective
    jurors "it has been determined already that Mr. Trump did sexually
    assault Ms. Carroll."
    ...
    ...
    "Donald Trump was president when he made those statements, and he used
    the world's biggest microphone to attack Ms. Carroll, humiliate her
    and to destroy her reputation," Crowley told the jury in the case that
    will decide how much more money, if any, Trump will owe Carroll.

    Crowley noted that even as Trump sat in the courtroom earlier in the
    day, defamatory messages continued to be posted to his social media
    account.

    https://news.yahoo.com/trump-legal-news-brief-trump-unleashed-his-followers-on-e-jean-carroll-her-lawyer-tells-jury-223636876.html

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 16 22:10:28 2024
    Andrew Weissmann @AWeissmann_

    As predicted, E Jean Carroll's counsel argues in opening statement of
    civil trial that punitive damages are needed to get Trump to stop
    defaming Carroll, which he did even today. So reminiscent of what
    happened with Rudy, which led to enormous punitive award against him.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Jan 17 14:15:01 2024
    On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 14:22:00 -0500, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    As predicted, E Jean Carroll's counsel argues in opening statement of
    civil trial that punitive damages

    such as a one-way trip to solitary confinement in Guantanamo, for
    starters.

    Its been his modus operandi to "attack" those who 'fuck' with him.

    If Jean gets a large settlement, I wonder how Trump himself will pay
    for it. It appears his company operates on a 'shoe string' budget
    (big loans), and I doubt he has millions/millons in his bank accounts

    Considering he has a POTUS retirement, if jurors sock it to him, his
    savings will be used to pay Jean.
    ===================

    01/21/21

    Florida bank says it has closed Trump's accounts
    ...
    ...
    In his financial disclosures, Trump had stated he had two money-market
    accounts with Banks United, The Washington Post reports. The accounts
    held somewhere between $5.1 million and $25.2 million.
    ...
    ...
    Another Florida bank, Professional Bank, last week announced that it
    would be cutting ties with Trump, saying it would no longer conduct
    business with the former president or his organizations.

    Signature Bank in New York and Deutsche Bank have also said they will
    no longer be conducting future business with Trump. Signature Bank
    notably took a strong stance against Trump and his allies in Congress,
    calling for him to resign and saying it would not conduct business
    with lawmakers who had objected to certifying the presidential
    election.

    https://thehill.com/policy/finance/banking-financial-institutions/535282-florida-bank-says-it-has-closed-trumps-accounts/

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Jan 17 14:22:00 2024
    On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 22:10:28 -0600
    JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Andrew Weissmann @AWeissmann_

    As predicted, E Jean Carroll's counsel argues in opening statement of
    civil trial that punitive damages

    such as a one-way trip to solitary confinement in Guantanamo, for
    starters.

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri Jan 26 17:36:07 2024
    On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 14:15:01 -0600
    JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 14:22:00 -0500, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    As predicted, E Jean Carroll's counsel argues in opening statement of
    civil trial that punitive damages


    Bwa ha ha - over $80 million in additional damages. Let's see if that
    shuts his fat, stupid mouth. Keep talking, dumbass, and we'll keep
    suing.

    Wonder if the PAC will foot the bill for this one? I'm quite sure they
    will reluctantly get the bill and pay it. "Keep sending money to save
    the nation, losers!"

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Jan 26 19:05:36 2024
    On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 17:36:07 -0500, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    - over $80 million in additional damages.

    But....he has delayed the first payout, so I assume the same with
    second amount....if he has some 83 million bucks sitting around.

    June 23, 2023

    As part of the agreement, which requires approval from the judge and
    could be modified, Carroll would not have access to the funds until
    after all appeals, including potentially to the US Supreme Court, are satisfied. ...A federal judge approved the plan late Friday.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/23/politics/trump-e-jean-carroll-5-5-million/index.html

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Sat Jan 27 02:21:52 2024
    On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 19:05:36 -0600
    JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

    June 23, 2023

    As part of the agreement, which requires approval from the judge and
    could be modified, Carroll would not have access to the funds until
    after all appeals, including potentially to the US Supreme Court, are satisfied. ...A federal judge approved the plan late Friday.

    You would think one of these days the Supreme Court would be interested
    in hearing a case not related to that fat bastard. Every single case
    he loses he just keeps appealing until he's gotten it to the nation's
    top court.

    Notice Giuliani's bankruptcy statements makes mention of money owed by
    Trump. Bwa ha ha, he never got paid for all that ass-hattery.

    When does that man's shit begin to stink?

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jan 27 07:36:39 2024
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 02:21:52 -0500, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Notice Giuliani's bankruptcy statements
    makes mention of money owed by Trump.

    Trump has a history of not paying contractors. A person doing this
    would have some formula for determining who gets paid. From news
    tidbits, he appears at times to be a compulsive penny pincher; like
    hiring Mexicans to do lawn, maid, waitress, etc., services..

    Giuliani's consulting service may have been making extra bucks, due to
    his association with Trump. Sidebar - Keep in mind, elites striving
    hard to "earn" dollars seek contact with those who can enrich them.
    Being in/near POTUS's Kitchen Cabinet is icing on the cake.

    From my observations of Giuliani, he went greed ballistic, and most
    likely assisted his clients' requests during Trump's time in office.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 27 22:16:45 2024
    Fox News' most-watched show hasn't once mentioned the jury awarding E.
    Jean Carroll $83 million -- even though the verdict came in just
    minutes before airtime.

    The Five, though, has covered all of these topics today.

    https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1751014053315477607

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jan 28 11:07:41 2024
    On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 17:36:07 -0500, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Bwa ha ha - over $80 million in additional damages.

    If Trump can appeal these cases, it could take several years before a
    judicial outcome.

    If say Carroll or Trump passed away before a ruling, I don't know if
    this would affect the payout.

    Regardless, I suspect he might attempt (or has) ditching his money,
    and then file for bankruptcy....On another note, Infowars host Alex
    Jones has attempted to shuffle monies around.

    Question is will he have to cough up this 83 million before another
    court reviews these settlements.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jan 28 15:59:36 2024
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 02:21:52 -0500, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Trump.

    This excellent piece by my old friend @BenWeiserNYT notes that it
    could take years to collect the $88.3 million in judgments against
    Trump. That is true, except in the following sense: Carroll could
    sell the right to collect the judgments to someone else, who would
    acquire the rights to the proceeds and assume the obligation of
    managing both the appellate proceedings and the efforts to attach
    Trump's property. Even at an appropriate risk-adjusted and
    time-value-adjusted discount, this could be a mutually advantageous
    transaction both for the 80-year-old Ms. Carroll, as well as for the
    judgment collector, with E. Jean getting immediate liquidity and the
    collector getting any upside on the back end (which would include the
    very high interest rate provided for by law).

    https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1751650565992378822

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Jan 31 19:28:47 2024
    On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 17:36:07 -0500, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Wonder if the PAC will foot the bill for this one?


    Trump doesn't answer when asked if he would use campaign funds to pay
    penalties in NY's civil fraud case & E. Jean Carroll defamation case:

    "[The Caroll case is] a ridiculous case...It's a disgrace. We're
    appealing that case...We're appealing that case. It's a ridiculous
    case."

    One min vid:
    https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1752782069673886086

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Jan 31 22:34:24 2024
    On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 17:36:07 -0500, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Wonder if the PAC will foot the bill for this one?

    He's using donors' monies in " civil and criminal cases."


    Trump spent more than he took in during 2023

    His total legal bill is staggering. And it left one of his primary
    committees with little cash on hand.
    ...
    ...
    In total, the former president spent roughly $50 million in donor
    funds on legal expenses over the course of 2023.
    ...
    ...
    Over 47 law firms and attorneys are reflected in the Save America
    filing, including The Binnall Law Group, Dhillon Law Group, Habba
    Madaio and Associates, John Lauro, Steven Sadow, Blanche Law, Brand
    Woodward Law, and Chris Kise and Associates. John Lauro, Steven Sadow,
    and Chris Kise are among the attorneys representing Trump in his civil
    and criminal cases. Brand Woodward Law is currently representing Trump
    valet Walt Nauta, a co-defendant with Trump in the classified
    documents case. Both Trump and Nauta pleaded not guilty.


    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/31/trump-donor-legal-fees-fec-00138965

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