A country agrees to ban all meat production by 2030
...

...
And climate change and related policy isn't just about energy, but
also food. To meet the target of net-zero emissions by 2050, one
report estimates that meat consumption must be reduced to 24 kg per
person per year, compared with the current OECD average of around 70
kg. Countries most likely to consider the food angle on climate change
will be those that have legally binding net-zero emissions targets.
Sweden has pledged to reach carbon neutrality by 2045, while others
like the UK, France and Denmark are aiming for 2050.

But a carrot and stick approach rarely works, and in 2023, at least
one country looking to front-run others in marking out its lead in the
race for most aggressive climate policy, moves to heavily tax meat on
a rising scale beginning in 2025. In addition, it plans to ban all
domestically produced live animal-sourced meat entirely by 2030,
figuring that improved plant-derived artificial meats and even more
humane, less-emissions intensive lab-grown meat technologies will have
to satisfy appetites to help save the environment and climate.

https://www.home.saxo/content/articles/outrageous-predictions/a-country-agrees-to-ban-all-meat-production-by-2030-06122022

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On 2024-01-03, JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

But a carrot and stick approach rarely works, and in 2023, at least
one country looking to front-run others in marking out its lead in the
race for most aggressive climate policy, moves to heavily tax meat on
a rising scale beginning in 2025. In addition, it plans to ban all domestically produced live animal-sourced meat entirely by 2030,
figuring that improved plant-derived artificial meats and even more
humane, less-emissions intensive lab-grown meat technologies will have
to satisfy appetites to help save the environment and climate.

Don't worry, I'm sure the nation's political elite will set up discreet, lucrative importation deals and enjoy all the sweet juicy beef it
desires. Just like the the strictest, Islamic nations are apparently
full of alcohol, consumed by political insiders. You just have to know
where to look.

Note to self: set up beef importation business in this country, and make
a bajillion bucks.

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On Wed, 03 Jan 2024 02:57:04 GMT, Retrograde
<[email protected]d> wrote:

Islamic nations are apparently
full of alcohol

Among drinkers, Chad and a number of other Muslim-majority countries
top the global ranking for alcohol consumption.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/a-secular-muslims-guide-to-drinking-alcohol-during-ramadan/2018/05/31/5b2fdf80-6449-11e8-a69c-b944de66d9e7_story.html

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On 2024-01-03, JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

On Wed, 03 Jan 2024 02:57:04 GMT, Retrograde
<[email protected]d> wrote:

Islamic nations are apparently
full of alcohol

Among drinkers, Chad and a number of other Muslim-majority countries
top the global ranking for alcohol consumption.

Mauritania is another classic. "Strict Islam" on the outside, sweet
cocktails on the inside. Pour me another one, Mohammed.

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On Wed, 03 Jan 2024 14:31:01 GMT, Retrograde
<[email protected]d> wrote:

Pour me another one, Mohammed.

I suspect in his days, "moderation" was not a common practice. ================================

A major step forward in our understanding of Neolithic winemaking came
from the analysis of a yellowish residue excavated by Mary M. Voigt at
the site of Hajji Firuz Tepe in the northern Zagros Mountains of Iran.
The jar that once contained wine, with a volume of about 9 liters (2.5
gallons) was found together with five similar jars embedded in the
earthen floor along one wall of a "kitchen" of a Neolithic mudbrick
building, dated to c. 5400-5000 BC.[9][24] In such communities,
winemaking was the best technology they had for storing highly
perishable grapes, although whether the resulting beverage was
intended for intoxication as well as nourishment is not known.[9]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_alcoholic_drinks

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On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 19:42:37 -0600
JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

A country agrees to ban all meat production by 2030
...

Not named?

...
And climate change and related policy isn't just about energy, but
also food. To meet the target of net-zero emissions by 2050, one
report estimates that meat consumption must be reduced to 24 kg per
person per year, compared with the current OECD average of around 70
kg. Countries most likely to consider the food angle on climate change
will be those that have legally binding net-zero emissions targets.
Sweden has pledged to reach carbon neutrality by 2045, while others
like the UK, France and Denmark are aiming for 2050.

But a carrot and stick approach rarely works, and in 2023, at least
one country looking to front-run others in marking out its lead in the
race for most aggressive climate policy, moves to heavily tax meat on
a rising scale beginning in 2025. In addition, it plans to ban all domestically produced live animal-sourced meat entirely by 2030,
figuring that improved plant-derived artificial meats and even more
humane, less-emissions intensive lab-grown meat technologies will have
to satisfy appetites to help save the environment and climate.

Good move; but there's a get out there for lab-meat. So you outraged
carnivores can still get a fix.

https://www.home.saxo/content/articles/outrageous-predictions/a-country-agrees-to-ban-all-meat-production-by-2030-06122022

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 17:07:18 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John" <[email protected]>
wrote:

A country agrees to ban all meat production by 2030
...

Not named?

I should have cited this first

Outrageous Predictions 2022-12-06

and posted this other article,

Saxo Bank's "outrageous predictions" for 2023 include a ban on meat
production, skyrocketing gold prices and Britain voting to
"un-Brexit."

The Danish bank's annual report, published earlier this month, expects
global economies to shift into "war economy" mode, "where sovereign
economic gains and self-reliance trump globalisation."

The forecasts, while not representative of the bank's official views,
looked at how decisions from policymakers next year could impact both
the global economy and the political agenda.
...
...
One nation "looking to front-run others" on its climate credentials
may decide to heavily tax meat from 2025 and could ban all
domestically produced live animal-sourced meat entirely by 2030, Saxo
Market Strategist Charu Chanana said.
...
...
"I wouldn't be surprised to see schools in Denmark and Sweden banning
meat altogether, it's definitely going that way," Saxo's Jakobsen told
CNBC. "It sounds crazy for us old people," he added.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/25/meat-bans-and-un-brexit-one-banks-outrageous-2023-predictions.html

A National Food Strategy for Sweden
- more jobs and sustainable growth
throughout the country
Short version of Government bill 2016/17:104 https://www.government.se/contentassets/16ef73aaa6f74faab86ade5ef239b659/livsmedelsstrategin_kortversion_eng.pdf

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JAB <[email protected]d> writes:

"I wouldn't be surprised to see schools in Denmark and Sweden banning
meat altogether, it's definitely going that way," Saxo's Jakobsen told
CNBC. "It sounds crazy for us old people," he added.

If that happens, I won't probably go to those countries after that.

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Jukka Lahtinen

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On Thu, 04 Jan 2024 23:56:39 +0200, Jukka Lahtinen <[email protected]d> wrote:

If that happens, I won't probably go to those countries after that.

Have you tried a 3D printed steaks?
https://yle.fi/a/74-20012811




Meat-eating taking a bite out of Finland's climate ambitions

Government parties disagree on how much meat you should eat.
...
...
The climate food programme also calls for the public sector to
increase plant-based food offerings, favour local meat and halve food
waste from current levels by 2030.

Red meat continues to be the primary source of protein for people in
Finland, according to a joint study from Helsinki and Tampere
Universities. The consumption of red meat has, however, been declining
for several years.

https://yle.fi/a/74-20016438

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JAB <[email protected]d> writes:

On Thu, 04 Jan 2024 23:56:39 +0200, Jukka Lahtinen

If that happens, I won't probably go to those countries after that.

Have you tried a 3D printed steaks?
https://yle.fi/a/74-20012811

No, at least not that I know of.
And probably won't (except maybe for curiosity) as long as it's more
expensive than the real thing.

Government parties disagree on how much meat you should eat.

They don't decide what I eat.

The climate food programme also calls for the public sector to
increase plant-based food offerings, favour local meat and halve food
waste from current levels by 2030.

I agree on favoring local food and avoiding waste.
It might actually be more important environmentally than avoiding meat.

--
Jukka Lahtinen

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On Sat, 06 Jan 2024 23:31:51 +0200, Jukka Lahtinen <[email protected]d> wrote:

Government parties disagree on how much meat you should eat.

They don't decide what I eat.

Foods' nutritional contents and their tastes would be my concern.

Plant based is OK if the above is satisfied.

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On Sat, 06 Jan 2024 23:31:51 +0200
Jukka Lahtinen <[email protected]d> wrote:

JAB <[email protected]d> writes:

On Thu, 04 Jan 2024 23:56:39 +0200, Jukka Lahtinen

If that happens, I won't probably go to those countries after that.

Have you tried a 3D printed steaks?
https://yle.fi/a/74-20012811

No, at least not that I know of.
And probably won't (except maybe for curiosity) as long as it's more expensive than the real thing.

Government parties disagree on how much meat you should eat.

They don't decide what I eat.

The climate food programme also calls for the public sector to
increase plant-based food offerings, favour local meat and halve food
waste from current levels by 2030.

I agree on favoring local food and avoiding waste.
It might actually be more important environmentally than avoiding meat.

I suggest it might depend on how the animals are fed.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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