Hezbollah has built a vast tunnel network far more sophisticated than
Hamas's
...
...
Digging tunnels in Lebanon was done from the start with the assistance
of North Korea -- as far back as the 1980s and especially toward the
end of the 90s. There is evidence of this. North Korea has historic
expertise in the digging of tunnels in mountainous and rocky areas.

After the second Lebanon War in 2006, the connection with North Korea
was maintained, and aid was also received from Iran.

Eventually, Hezbollah got everything it needed from the Koreans. By
2014, they'd had 25 years of interaction, in the course of which
Hezbollah received knowledge and technology to the point where it was
able to dig and build the tunnels by itself.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/expert-hezbollah-has-built-a-vast-tunnel-network-far-more-sophisticated-than-hamass/

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On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 19:16:27 -0600
JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

Hezbollah has built a vast tunnel network far more sophisticated than
Hamas's
...
...
Digging tunnels in Lebanon was done from the start with the assistance
of North Korea -- as far back as the 1980s and especially toward the
end of the 90s. There is evidence of this. North Korea has historic
expertise in the digging of tunnels in mountainous and rocky areas.

After the second Lebanon War in 2006, the connection with North Korea
was maintained, and aid was also received from Iran.

Eventually, Hezbollah got everything it needed from the Koreans. By
2014, they'd had 25 years of interaction, in the course of which
Hezbollah received knowledge and technology to the point where it was
able to dig and build the tunnels by itself.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/expert-hezbollah-has-built-a-vast-tunnel-network-far-more-sophisticated-than-hamass/

A conspiracy to avoid being bombed? as reported from an Israeli website?
Are they losing the tunneling battle? Well, color me unexcited.


Maybe bombing hospitals is acceptable to some.



--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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JAB wrote:

Those tunnels were in Lebanon...now in Gaza we know tunnels were
built, so its not unreasonable to assume tunnels were built in
Lebanon, which is located very close to Israel.

Those militant Muslims are quite the little Moles aren't they? Going
around digging tunnels everywhere...

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On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 17:04:48 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John" <[email protected]>
wrote:

as reported from an Israeli website?

Those tunnels were in Lebanon...now in Gaza we know tunnels were
built, so its not unreasonable to assume tunnels were built in
Lebanon, which is located very close to Israel.


Reuters spoke to seven military experts and officials, and drew on its
own reporting on the ground in Gaza, as well as descriptions and
images from Hamas and the Israeli military, to piece together a
picture of the scale and sophistication of the tunnel network.

https://www.reuters.com/graphics/ISRAEL-PALESTINIANS/GAZA-TUNNELS/gkvldmzorvb/

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On 2024-01-03, JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

Eventually, Hezbollah got everything it needed from the Koreans. By
2014, they'd had 25 years of interaction, in the course of which
Hezbollah received knowledge and technology to the point where it was
able to dig and build the tunnels by itself.

https://www.timesofisrael.com

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well, it does seem with the blast in Iran this week that this is going
to be quite a conflagration one way or the other. Goodbye, Middle East,
I don't see any way this is going to escalate. Someone clearly is
planning to drop a few bombs on Lebanon as well.

There's nothing worse than an embattled and unpopular leader whose
country becomes victim of a tragedy. For many/most it's an opportunity
too good to resist.

Hezbollah can go choke on a bag of dicks, mind you.

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On Wed, 03 Jan 2024 22:38:04 +0100, "Blueshirt"
<[email protected]> wrote:

Going around digging tunnels everywhere...

Cause>>>Effect

Tunnels >>>>Buildings Destroyed

Hamas built those tunnels, and Israel is leveling buildings to find
them. If Hamas had not built those tunnels, a different reality.



Bad Assumption: The group is confident its thousands of fighters can
survive for months in a city of tunnels carved deep beneath the
Palestinian enclave and frustrate Israeli forces with urban guerrilla
tactics, the people told Reuters.

Ultimately, Hamas believes international pressure for Israel to end
the siege, as civilian casualties mount, could force a ceasefire and a negotiated settlement that would see the militant group emerge with a
tangible concession such as the release of thousands of Palestinian
prisoners in exchange for Israeli hostages, the sources said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/how-hamas-aims-trap-israel-gaza-quagmire-2023-11-03/

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On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 00:53:26 -0000 (UTC), Retrograde wrote:

https://www.timesofisrael.com

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well, it does seem with the blast in Iran this week that this is going
to be quite a conflagration one way or the other. Goodbye, Middle East,
I don't see any way this is going to escalate. Someone clearly is
planning to drop a few bombs on Lebanon as well.

There's nothing worse than an embattled and unpopular leader whose
country becomes victim of a tragedy. For many/most it's an opportunity
too good to resist.

And here we go:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/01/03/israel-lebanon- assassination-hamas-gaza/

Killing of Hamas leader in Lebanon appears to signal shift in Israel’s war effort
Israel’s military has said for months it is ready to fight a two-front
war, having massed troops and tanks along the Lebanese border and
evacuated at least 70,000 residents.
By Steve Hendrix

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On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 02:01:15 -0000 (UTC), Retrograde <[email protected]d> wrote:

Killing of Hamas leader in Lebanon appears
to signal shift in Israel's war effort

I believe their intentions were stated awhile back.

Eliminate Hamas, where ever they are...

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JAB wrote:

On Thu, 4 Jan 2024 02:01:15 -0000 (UTC), Retrograde <[email protected]d> wrote:

Killing of Hamas leader in Lebanon appears
to signal shift in Israel's war effort

I believe their intentions were stated awhile back.

Eliminate Hamas, where ever they are...

... and most of their leaders live outside of the Gaza strip... in
Lebanon, Turkey and Qatar.

Handy that. Start a war from a cosy 'safe' country, while the people
that support you face the consequences of you actions.

The militant 'Palestinians' must have short memories. Israel was
never going to let the Hamas leadership get away with the events of
October 7th. (Remember Munich and 'Operation Bayonet'?) So, all of
the Hamas leadership are just dead men walking.

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On Thu, 04 Jan 2024 15:12:07 +0100, "Blueshirt"
<[email protected]> wrote:

(Remember Munich and 'Operation Bayonet'?) So, all of
the Hamas leadership are just dead men walking.

Remember:

Pegasus is a spyware developed by the Israeli cyber-arms company NSO
Group that is designed to be covertly and remotely installed on mobile
phones running iOS and Android.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware)>

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