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  • border bill that makes entering Texas illegally

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 18 22:54:27 2023
    The New York Times
    Abbott Signs Law Allowing Texas to Arrest Migrants, Setting Up Federal
    Showdown

    CNN
    GOP Gov. Abbott signs border bill that makes entering Texas illegally
    a state crime
    ================

    Political drama...

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Dec 20 00:48:25 2023
    On 2023-12-19, JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Political drama...

    And yet, maybe he's onto something, because I don't see WashDC doing
    anything about the border crisis.

    Want to stop it in a day? Make it the employer's responsibility to
    verify citizenship or pay fines/do jail time.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Dec 19 20:21:53 2023
    On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 00:48:25 GMT, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Want to stop it in a day? Make it the employer's responsibility to
    verify citizenship or pay fines/do jail time.

    E-VERIFY.gov exists,

    Is it mandatory to E-Verify employees?

    E-Verify protects jobs for authorized workers and helps employers
    maintain a legal workforce. Am I required to participate in E-Verify?
    No. While participation in E-Verify is voluntary for most employers,
    other employers may be required by State law or Federal regulation to
    use E-Verify

    https://www.e-verify.gov/sites/default/files/everify/guides/E4en.pdf

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  • From rdh@21:1/5 to Retrograde on Wed Dec 20 08:45:29 2023
    On 12/19/23 18:48, Retrograde wrote:
    On 2023-12-19, JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Political drama...

    And yet, maybe he's onto something, because I don't see WashDC doing
    anything about the border crisis.

    Why would they? It's a completely made up crisis.

    Want to stop it in a day? Make it the employer's responsibility to
    verify citizenship or pay fines/do jail time.

    It already is, have you ever been asked when signing the documents for a
    new job to verify that you're allowed to work in the US? But if an
    employer pays someone under the table, then how is the government to
    know about it?

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Dec 20 15:34:15 2023
    On 2023-12-20, JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 00:48:25 GMT, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Want to stop it in a day? Make it the employer's responsibility to
    verify citizenship or pay fines/do jail time.

    E-VERIFY.gov exists,

    Is it mandatory to E-Verify employees?

    E-Verify protects jobs for authorized workers and helps employers
    maintain a legal workforce. Am I required to participate in E-Verify?
    No. While participation in E-Verify is voluntary for most employers,
    other employers may be required by State law or Federal regulation to
    use E-Verify

    https://www.e-verify.gov/sites/default/files/everify/guides/E4en.pdf

    Right. There's a policy, but it's not enforced. There is the problem.
    And everyone knows people are finding their way across the border
    because there are jobs to fill if they make it.

    Americans desperate to end the border "crisis" should stop employing
    illegals. And be prepared to pay more for the services illegal
    immigrants often fill.

    Smells like hypocricy to me.

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to rdh on Wed Dec 20 16:33:37 2023
    On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 08:45:29 -0600
    rdh <[email protected]ute> wrote:

    On 12/19/23 18:48, Retrograde wrote:
    On 2023-12-19, JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Political drama...

    And yet, maybe he's onto something, because I don't see WashDC doing anything about the border crisis.

    Why would they? It's a completely made up crisis.


    Yet the "Republicans" wanmt this so desperately, thay don't mind seeing
    Ukraine go to the wall?

    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Dec 20 12:44:24 2023
    On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 16:33:37 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Yet the "Republicans" wanmt this so desperately

    They don't want their sucker/loser base to be pissed off.

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Dec 20 21:24:45 2023
    On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 12:44:24 -0600
    JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 16:33:37 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Yet the "Republicans" wanmt this so desperately

    They don't want their sucker/loser base to be pissed off.


    You keep snipping the context; this might piss some people off. Just
    saying.


    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Dec 20 19:05:22 2023
    On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 21:24:45 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    You keep snipping the context; this might
    piss some people off. Just saying.

    Contextually, I believe I was on the same page. Observe this:

    Yet the "Republicans" wanmt this so desperately,

    "They don't want their sucker/loser base to be pissed off."

    thay don't mind seeing Ukraine go to the wall?

    This is speculation....non sequitur at this point in time. There are
    two aspects here: Republicans vs Party Politics. Individual
    Republicans may approve of military/etc aid to Ukraine, but their
    Party's Politics is pulling a gambit which might suggest they "don't
    mind seeing Ukraine go to the wall." Their gambit may or may not
    succeed, btw. But its purpose is for appeasement to their base.

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to John on Thu Dec 21 02:30:08 2023
    On 2023-12-20, Kerr-Mudd, John <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 08:45:29 -0600
    rdh <[email protected]ute> wrote:

    On 12/19/23 18:48, Retrograde wrote:
    On 2023-12-19, JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Political drama...

    And yet, maybe he's onto something, because I don't see WashDC doing
    anything about the border crisis.

    Why would they? It's a completely made up crisis.


    Yet the "Republicans" wanmt this so desperately, thay don't mind seeing Ukraine go to the wall?

    Pretty crass, you are right. I think the political calculus is so
    narrow these days, any long-term, strategic, or geopolitical thinking is
    gone. The sad thing is, the USA decided to arm Ukraine just well enough
    to cause a stalemate, but not well enough to end the war. And now
    everyone is "tired of paying for this" and sick of not winning.
    Infantile, really.

    Letting Putin win will be the mistake of a generation, if it comes to
    be. Putin calculated the west would tire of the war. Looky here, he
    was correct.

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