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    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 17 14:52:03 2023
    NY Authorities Seize 44 Vehicles Of Toll Evaders Owing Nearly $1M In
    Unpaid Fees

    https://dailycaller.com/2023/12/16/metropolitan-transit-authority-seized-44-vehicles-toll-evasion-one-million-dollars-unpaid-fees/

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Dec 20 00:44:04 2023
    On 2023-12-17, JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:
    NY Authorities Seize 44 Vehicles Of Toll Evaders Owing Nearly $1M In
    Unpaid Fees

    Seems fair to me. If I gotta pay the toll, you gotta pay the toll.

    If Americans would get over their fear of traffic cameras you could
    immediately get everyone to obey the speed limit by simply putting in an automated vehicle speed-detector -> license plate reader -> ticket
    sender pipeline. Automate it with a couple of bash scripts,
    ferfuck'ssake. Do away with traffic cops entirely. Suddenly, everyone
    is driving the speed limit.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Dec 19 20:13:43 2023
    On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 00:44:04 GMT, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    get everyone to obey the speed limit

    Not sure how that would work with out of state vehicles.

    It has been suggested to just control speed electronically, whereby
    the vehicle is sent road speed info, and obeys.

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Dec 20 15:35:25 2023
    On 2023-12-20, JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 00:44:04 GMT, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    get everyone to obey the speed limit

    Not sure how that would work with out of state vehicles.

    It has been suggested to just control speed electronically, whereby
    the vehicle is sent road speed info, and obeys.

    It works really well actually. I got a speeding ticket from a camera in
    early morning hours (roads were empty). Camera caught my out-of-state
    plate and mailed the ticket to my (former) residence out-of-state. And
    I paid it. (and I was ticked off).

    Anyway, just one data point to show the system can work.

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  • From ErnieB@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Dec 20 10:57:43 2023
    On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 20:13:43 -0600, JAB wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 00:44:04 GMT, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    get everyone to obey the speed limit

    Not sure how that would work with out of state vehicles.

    It has been suggested to just control speed electronically, whereby
    the vehicle is sent road speed info, and obeys.

    I've driven vehicles with speed-limiting governors, they are dangerous
    because they can't get out of their own way. More to the point, they can't
    get out of the way of an impending accident.

    Another problem: the suggestion above, "control speed electronically ...
    and obeys", would usurp the driver's command authority. Just as a ship has only one captain or an airplane has only one pilot-in-command, an
    auto/truck has only one driver. If s/he speeds, a ticket and stiff fine is appropriate.
    --
    Ernie B.

    Communication: The art of moving an idea from one mind to another,
    hopefully without distortion.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 20 12:41:05 2023
    On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 10:57:43 -0600, ErnieB <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    usurp the driver's command authority.

    Interesting concept that seems to oppose State Laws which prescribe
    submission.

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  • From ErnieB@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri Dec 22 14:34:41 2023
    On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 12:41:05 -0600, JAB wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 10:57:43 -0600, ErnieB <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    usurp the driver's command authority.

    Interesting concept that seems to oppose State Laws which prescribe submission.

    I lived in a state which passed a law that required windshield wiper
    operation for any rain, even a sprinkle. Many people did not submit. The
    law didn't last very long.
    --
    Ernie B.

    Communication: The art of moving an idea from one mind to another,
    hopefully without distortion.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 22 19:48:17 2023
    On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 14:34:41 -0600, ErnieB <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Many people did not submit.

    When 55 mph was the speed limit on interstates, etc., I drove from LA
    to Las Vegas on a Friday fall night doing 70 mph and + with the herd.

    Trooper was keeping pace with us....


    In Phoenix while doing 55 mph on a motorcycle, the trooper pulled me
    over and warned me to drive faster.

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  • From ErnieB@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri Dec 22 20:36:23 2023
    On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 19:48:17 -0600, JAB wrote:

    On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 14:34:41 -0600, ErnieB <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Many people did not submit.

    When 55 mph was the speed limit on interstates, etc., I drove from LA
    to Las Vegas on a Friday fall night doing 70 mph and + with the herd.

    Trooper was keeping pace with us....


    In Phoenix while doing 55 mph on a motorcycle, the trooper pulled me
    over and warned me to drive faster.

    Yep, happens frequently.

    I was driving north over the Golden Gate bridge, sign said speed limit 60
    mph. Highway Patrol car burped and said "Brown Kansas car, either keep up
    with traffic or get off of the freeway."

    Another time, I was approaching Ely, NV at something over 90 mph when I saw
    a HP car in the rear-view mirror. I thought "Oh poo!" and slowed slightly.
    The HP car passed me and disappeared into the mirage ahead.
    --
    Ernie B.

    Communication: The art of moving an idea from one mind to another,
    hopefully without distortion.

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