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  • Iran's Axis of Resistance'

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 15 05:32:00 2023
    Iran's Axis of Resistance' against Israel faces trial by fire

    Iran's supreme leader delivered a clear message to the head of Hamas
    when they met in Tehran in early November, according to three senior
    officials: You gave us no warning of your Oct. 7 attack on Israel and
    we will not enter the war on your behalf.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/irans-axis-resistance-against-israel-faces-trial-by-fire-2023-11-15/

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    If true, an interesting position....he might view Hamas's efforts as
    futile, and which causes great harm to Palestinians.
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    But, on the other hand,

    Mohanad Hage Ali, an expert on Hezbollah at the Carnegie Middle East
    Center think-tank in Beirut, said Hamas' Oct. 7 assault on Israel had
    left its axis partners facing tough choices in confronting an
    adversary with far superior firepower.

    "When you wake up the bear with such an attack, it's quite difficult
    for your allies to stand in the same position as you."

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to JAB on Thu Nov 16 16:21:07 2023
    JAB wrote:

    Iran's Axis of Resistance' against Israel faces trial by fire

    Iran's supreme leader delivered a clear message to the head of Hamas
    when they met in Tehran in early November, according to three senior officials: You gave us no warning of your Oct. 7 attack on Israel and
    we will not enter the war on your behalf.

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    If true, an interesting position....he might view Hamas's efforts as
    futile, and which causes great harm to Palestinians.
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    I'm not sure that is a true indication of Iran's position...

    Where did Hamas get the guns/rifles/grenades/rockets (etc.) to attack
    Israel from? As well as the funding required to equip soldiers with
    uniform, helmets, body armour (etc.) to fight a war? None of the military hardware and supplies were manufactured in the Gaza strip... somebody shipped/smuggled them in. Surely Iran didn't think they were supplying
    funds to Hamas for afternoon tea parties and BBQ's on the beach?

    If Hamas kept the date of the attack secret it doesn't alter the fact that
    Iran must have known Hamas would use the weapons at some stage... and it
    wasn't going to be for shooting Ducks!

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Nov 16 20:40:43 2023
    On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 16:21:07 +0100, "Blueshirt"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    You gave us no warning of your Oct. 7 attack on Israel and
    we will not enter the war on your behalf.

    ==========
    If true, an interesting position....he might view Hamas's efforts as
    futile, and which causes great harm to Palestinians.
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    I'm not sure that is a true indication of Iran's position...

    Yes, Iran wants to eliminate Israel, and has supplied 'war tools/etc'
    to Hamas, but Iran was not allowed to evaluate their plan.

    My "futile" opinion above is valid reasoning I believe, but I don't
    know if Iran has the same perspective as Hamas in regards to
    collateral damage (here Palestinians) being acceptable.

    Does Iran abide by this below? I don't know

    As posted before: 21 Oct 2023

    In Cairo, Jordan's King Abdullah says

    In Cairo, Jordan's King Abdullah says Islam, 1000 years before the
    Geneva Conventions, ordered soldiers not to kill a child, a woman or
    old person, destroy a tree, harm a priest or destroy a church. "These
    are the rules of engagement that Muslims must accept & abide by.."

    Text Pic
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8999f2WwAAXh3F.jpg

    https://twitter.com/margbrennan/status/1715728484243325079

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