• clothing choices

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 19 10:44:50 2023
    A woman warns beachgoers that their clothing choices are going to send
    them to hell, 1980s.

    After being invented in 1947, the bikini was considered to be a
    scandalous piece of clothing and was bought discreetly until the 1960s
    when it became more accepted. The 1980s had a focus on men and women
    showing more skin, as well as men getting more muscular in the gym. A
    decade also known for its sex revolution, many sex symbols emerged
    during this time, and a more casual approach to sex became prevalent
    in many societies around the world.

    The 80s also saw society move away from Conservative or religious
    traditions when it came to fashion and clothing styles, however, it
    was most prevalent at the beach.

    What do you think about showing skin? Is there a limit? What about
    today's standards about showing skin?
    @historyinmemes

    Pic
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8ybD6aWkAAlgNy.jpg

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Thu Oct 19 21:02:52 2023
    On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 10:44:50 -0500
    JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

    A woman warns beachgoers that their clothing choices are going to send
    them to hell, 1980s.

    Good Lord, the 1980s? That ship sailed two full decades earlier,
    church-lady.

    Nice classic Dodge Challenger in the background, and a pretty sweet
    truck camper. Good times. The combination of the lady with the sign,
    the bikin-wearer with her legs spread, and the confused-looking dude
    with the mullet all combine to make this a great pic.

    BTW we had color film back then, WTF? No reason for this to be B&W.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Oct 19 20:48:15 2023
    On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 21:02:52 -0400, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    BTW we had color film back then, WTF?
    No reason for this to be B&W.

    I do know B&W was cheaper for a long time, but I don't recall if this
    was always true before digital pics came.

    Cinematography in The Last Picture Show was done in B&W, and this
    requires skills to do in B&W.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LoWGwN4ToE

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  • From rdh@21:1/5 to Retrograde on Mon Oct 23 08:22:02 2023
    On 10/19/23 20:02, Retrograde wrote:
    BTW we had color film back then, WTF? No reason for this to be B&W.

    Black and white film was cheaper, both just to buy, but also to develop.
    A lot of people shot black and white, especially journalistic
    photographers, because their work was likely to only be printed in black
    and white anyway.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to rdh on Mon Oct 23 12:25:07 2023
    On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 08:22:02 -0500, rdh <[email protected]ute> wrote:

    A lot of people shot black and white, especially journalistic
    photographers, because their work was likely to only be printed in black
    and white anyway.

    Bingo....

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to rdh on Mon Oct 23 21:59:13 2023
    rdh wrote:

    On 10/19/23 20:02, Retrograde wrote:
    BTW we had color film back then, WTF? No reason for this to be B&W.

    Black and white film was cheaper, both just to buy, but also to
    develop. A lot of people shot black and white, especially journalistic photographers, because their work was likely to only be printed in
    black and white anyway.

    My daughter changes all of her best photos to b/w to print out, she
    thinks they look better... she's only using an iPhone phone but she sees
    b/w photos as being more artistic.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Oct 23 17:57:08 2023
    On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 21:59:13 +0200, "Blueshirt"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    but she sees
    b/w photos as being more artistic.

    Ansel Adams applauds

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Oct 24 03:59:41 2023
    JAB wrote:

    On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 21:59:13 +0200, "Blueshirt"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    but she sees b/w photos as being more artistic.

    Ansel Adams applauds

    He might not if he'd lived to see people using smartphones to take photos
    of everything, everywhere!!!

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Oct 24 12:41:47 2023
    On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 03:59:41 +0200, "Blueshirt"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    but she sees b/w photos as being more artistic.

    Ansel Adams applauds

    He might not if he'd lived to see people using
    smartphones to take photos of everything, everywhere!!!

    Well then, law enforcement agencies would approve....

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Oct 25 05:46:06 2023
    On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 00:17:36 -0400, Michael Trew
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I have a baby picture from 1995 in B&W.

    In a nutshell.....In earlier days, all film was sent off to a lab, and
    then came film processing equipment located in stores like Kmart.

    ....probably just taken with a cheap old camera.

    If high quality prints were wanted, the film had to be sent to a lab.
    Not all film types could be processed in stores then. I have no idea
    if stores process film these days...most likely not with digital.

    Various factors (lens, lighting, exposure settings) affect quality
    aspects, but most people buy consumer grade equipment.

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Retrograde on Wed Oct 25 00:17:36 2023
    On 10/19/2023 9:02 PM, Retrograde wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 10:44:50 -0500
    JAB<[email protected]d> wrote:

    A woman warns beachgoers that their clothing choices are going to send
    them to hell, 1980s.

    Good Lord, the 1980s? That ship sailed two full decades earlier, church-lady.

    Nice classic Dodge Challenger in the background, and a pretty sweet
    truck camper. Good times. The combination of the lady with the sign,
    the bikin-wearer with her legs spread, and the confused-looking dude
    with the mullet all combine to make this a great pic.

    Hahaha, they all look so uninterested and unfazed.

    BTW we had color film back then, WTF? No reason for this to be B&W.

    I have a baby picture from 1995 in B&W. Not because "artsy-fartsy" like
    people do now; It was probably just taken with a cheap old camera.

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  • From rdh@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Wed Oct 25 08:46:49 2023
    On 10/23/23 14:59, Blueshirt wrote:
    My daughter changes all of her best photos to b/w to print out, she
    thinks they look better... she's only using an iPhone phone but she sees
    b/w photos as being more artistic.

    That's another consideration, even people who were just taking photos on
    their own, some people still bought black and white film simply because
    they preferred it.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Oct 25 19:52:32 2023
    On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 21:02:52 -0400, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    BTW we had color film back then, WTF? No reason for this to be B&W.


    Different Topic

    A cafe in Qatar where everything is monochrome and like a drawing,
    making you feel like you are in a storybook

    22 sec vid
    https://twitter.com/gunsnrosesgirl3/status/1717231713963905501

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to rdh on Thu Oct 26 03:17:33 2023
    rdh wrote:

    On 10/23/23 14:59, Blueshirt wrote:
    My daughter changes all of her best photos to b/w to print out, she
    thinks they look better... she's only using an iPhone but she
    sees b/w photos as being more artistic.

    That's another consideration, even people who were just taking photos
    on their own, some people still bought black and white film simply
    because they preferred it.

    Old school photographers I suppose.

    My daughter never actually had a camera that used rolls of film, she is a
    child of the digital age ... yet she loves turning colour photos in to
    b/w, printing them out and putting them in to frames. <shrugs>

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Oct 25 21:13:54 2023
    On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 03:17:33 +0200, "Blueshirt"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    ........loves turning colour photos in to b/w, printing
    them out and putting them in to frames. <shrugs>

    Side Comments - In earlier days for those viewing cable-TV and Dish
    Network, it was not NTSC video quality, which was available via TVRO.
    TVRO equipment cost more then, but picture quality was much better.

    In one way, Dish's degraded broadcast service, with respect to NTSC
    quality, was actually better (as users reported) than many on Cable
    TV. But, if one has not seen true NTSC video, then they have no
    reference to compare.

    Quality pictures may not be her objective, but may represent
    events/etc. B/W is about contrast, so to speak, and can require a
    person to focus more for seeing details better. She may have
    emotional thoughts with each pic...etc.

    Both B/W and Color pics can be manipulated for visual effects, but I'm
    old school, and I still like B/W.
    ============

    Tips for Shooting Black and White Film

    Aug 29, 2022 -- Attempting to master black and white film photography
    can be a humbling experience and big learning curve...

    https://www.lomography.com/magazine/349028-tips-for-shooting-black-and-white-film

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Oct 25 23:49:06 2023
    On 10/25/2023 6:46 AM, JAB wrote:
    On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 00:17:36 -0400, Michael Trew
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    I have a baby picture from 1995 in B&W.

    In a nutshell.....In earlier days, all film was sent off to a lab, and
    then came film processing equipment located in stores like Kmart.

    ....probably just taken with a cheap old camera.

    If high quality prints were wanted, the film had to be sent to a lab.
    Not all film types could be processed in stores then. I have no idea
    if stores process film these days...most likely not with digital.

    Any store such as Rite-Aid, Eckard, Walmart, etc. collect film dropped
    off, but ship it out once per week to be developed. They advise at
    least a week turn around for photos.

    There is one local photo store in Boardman, OH, that processes 24 hr
    film on site, and also some digital photography work. Anymore,
    photography shops like that aren't common.

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