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  • As Students Face Retaliation for Israel Statement

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 12 05:47:58 2023
    As Students Face Retaliation for Israel Statement, a 'Doxxing Truck'
    Displaying Students' Faces Comes to Harvard's Campus

    A billboard truck drove through the streets surrounding Harvard's
    campus Wednesday, digitally displaying the names and faces of students allegedly affiliated with student groups that signed onto a
    controversial statement on Hamas' attack on Israel.

    Amid continued national backlash and doxxing attacks, at least eight
    of the original 34 co-signing Harvard student groups as of Wednesday
    afternoon withdrew their signatures from the statement -- originally
    penned by the Harvard Undergraduate Palestine Solidarity Committee --
    that called Israel "entirely responsible" for the violence. In a later statement, the PSC wrote that it "staunchly opposes" violence against
    all civilians.

    By Tuesday evening, at least four online sites had listed the personal information of students linked to clubs that had signed onto the
    statement, including full names, class years, past employment, social
    media profiles, photos, and hometowns.

    As of Wednesday morning, at least two of those sites had been taken
    down for violating Google's terms of service.

    https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2023/10/12/doxxing-truck-students-israel-statement/

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Oct 13 10:54:59 2023
    On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 11:33:19 -0400, Michael Trew
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    How on earth is Israel "entirely responsible",
    when Hamas fired first (this time)?


    Stuart Varney: Israel is not buying Hamas' 'victimhood,' they're going
    to destroy them

    During his "My Take," Tuesday, "Varney & Co." host Stuart Varney
    addressed the "unprovoked" terrorist attacks on Israel, arguing
    Palestinian supporters are trying to change the narrative and present themselves as victims, but that Israel is "enraged" and is on the
    verge of destroying Hamas.
    ...
    ...
    The terrorists, and their supporters, are now presenting themselves as
    victims.

    They speak the language of victimhood. The language of oppression.
    That's how they justify their own savagery.

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/stuart-varney-israel-hamas-victimhood-destroy-them

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 13 11:11:28 2023
    Palestinian supporters are trying to change the narrative and present >themselves as victims, but that Israel is "enraged" and is on the
    verge of destroying Hamas.

    Keep in mind:

    The preamble of the Hamas charter is an admission:

    "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will
    obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4250689-how-not-to-let-hamas-win/

    Sematics....Hamas is suggesting the state of Israel...

    But, like in US where there are whites wanting to take out blacks, I
    suspect the same behavior by those "believing" in Islam.

    On the other hand:
    Opinion - Debunking the Extremist Myth That Islam is Anti-Jewish

    Debunking the Extremist Myth That Islam is Anti-Jewish

    https://time.com/104804/debunking-the-extremist-myth-that-islam-is-anti-jewish/

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri Oct 13 11:33:19 2023
    On 10/12/2023 6:47 AM, JAB wrote:
    As Students Face Retaliation for Israel Statement, a 'Doxxing Truck' Displaying Students' Faces Comes to Harvard's Campus
    (snip)
    Amid continued national backlash and doxxing attacks, at least eight
    of the original 34 co-signing Harvard student groups as of Wednesday afternoon withdrew their signatures from the statement -- originally
    penned by the Harvard Undergraduate Palestine Solidarity Committee --
    that called Israel "entirely responsible" for the violence.

    How on earth is Israel "entirely responsible", when Hamas fired first
    (this time)? It sounds like they are fostering Muslim extremists at
    Harvard, to me. (It goes without saying that not all, or not nearly all Muslims are anywhere close to "extremist".)

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Oct 13 12:01:14 2023
    On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 11:33:19 -0400, Michael Trew
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    It sounds like

    Below is twisted reasoning....the "teacher" is not examining and
    expressing in the historical context...cut and paste reasoning. =============================

    George Conway @gtconway3d

    "The teacher told the Jewish students to take their belongings, stand
    in a corner, and said, "This is what Israel does to the Palestinians.'
    The instructor then asked, 'How many people died in the Holocaust?'
    When a student answered, 'Six million,' the lecturer said, 'Colonizers
    killed more than 6 million. Israel is a colonizer.'....

    "The teacher ... said, 'Hamas is a legitimate representation of the
    Palestinian people. They are not a terrorist group. They are freedom
    fighters. Their actions are legitimate.'"


    The Forward @jdforward

    An instructor at Stanford University has been suspended for what the
    president and provost called "identity-based targeting" of students in connection with the Israel-Gaza war.
    ===========
    Stanford instructor removed for targeting Jewish students as
    'colonizers' after Hamas attack on Israel

    https://forward.com/fast-forward/564587/stanford-university-jewish-students-instructor-hamas/

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 14 11:13:05 2023
    "The teacher ... said, 'Hamas is a legitimate representation of the >Palestinian people. They are not a terrorist group. They are freedom >fighters. Their actions are legitimate.'"

    They are freedom fighters

    Apparently, these "freedom fighters" want to exterminate Jews and the
    State of Israel.


    'Hamas is a legitimate representation of the Palestinian people

    This is a false comment. In the 2006 legislative elections, Hamas was
    voted in, but "no new elections have been held since."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election

    That "teacher" lies, lies, and lies.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to JAB on Sun Oct 15 21:30:36 2023
    On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 12:01:14 -0500, JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

    "The teacher ... said, 'Hamas is a legitimate representation of the >Palestinian people.

    Hamas critique removed from Palestinians' Abbas comments on Israel
    attack
    ...
    ...
    The original WAFA report on Abbas' call included the line: "The
    president also stressed that Hamas' policies and actions do not
    represent the Palestinian people, and the policies, programs and
    decisions of the (Palestine Liberation Organization) represent the
    Palestinian people as their sole legitimate representative."

    Several hours later, the phrase was adjusted to read: "The president
    also stressed that the policies, programs, and decisions of the PLO
    represent the Palestinian people as their sole legitimate
    representative, and not the policies of any other organization."

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/president-abbas-says-hamas-actions-do-not-represent-palestinians-2023-10-15/

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 18 06:30:55 2023
    Law firm rescinds job offers over Harvard student Israel letter

    Top U.S. law firm Davis Polk announced in an internal email that it
    had rescinded letters of employment for three law students at Harvard
    and Columbia universities who signed on to organizational statements
    about Israel, one of the latest responses to open letters from
    university groups about the Israel-Hamas conflict that have roiled
    university donors, employers, alumni and students.

    "These statements are simply contrary to our firm's values and we thus concluded that rescinding these offers was appropriate in upholding
    our responsibility to provide a safe and inclusive work environment
    for all Davis Polk employees," said the email, signed by Neil Barr.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/corporations/harvard-letter-israel-columbia-ivy-davis-polk-law-firm-student-rcna120881


    RE: These statements

    They also show these students can't evaluate an issue.

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