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  • Over 40,000 eviction notices have gone out in L.A. this year

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 10 18:11:46 2023
    Over 40,000 eviction notices have gone out in L.A. this year - Los
    Angeles Times
    ...
    ...
    While public perception is that tenants in low-income and gentrifying communities are most threatened with eviction, the data are in line
    with research showing that large property management firms tend to
    automate their processes and initiate eviction proceedings at higher
    rates, said Kyle Nelson, a senior policy and research analyst at the
    nonprofit advocacy group Strategic Actions for a Just Economy.

    "You have extremely high-rent tenancies with extremely inflexible
    landlords," said Nelson, who has been studying evictions in L.A.
    County for a decade.

    The 40,000 notices were sent to residents of about 8,400 buildings.
    Roughly 94% of them were notices that give tenants three days, not
    including weekends or court holidays, to pay any outstanding rent, fix
    other issues or move out, according to an analysis by the controller's
    office; 96% were issued for nonpayment of rent.

    The data do not capture all the eviction notices issued by landlords
    through the end of July. The housing department has an estimated
    backlog of 5,000 paper copies received in the mail it needs to enter
    into its database, said spokesperson Sharon Sandow. The city plans to
    catch up no later than October.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-09-07/over-40-000-eviction-notices-have-gone-out-in-la-this-year-many-to-upscale-apartments

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 11 13:04:40 2023
    "You have extremely high-rent tenancies with extremely inflexible
    landlords," said Nelson, who has been studying evictions in L.A.
    County for a decade.

    Interesting to see rich people can be deadbeats too. Wonder what is
    going on here. Faking the wealthy lifestyle to impress Instagram, but
    can't actually afford the rent, or something?

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 11 15:23:21 2023
    On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 13:04:40 -0400, Retrograde <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Wonder what is going on here.

    I can't say, but in general, too many people max out their pocket
    book, and then an unexpected expense comes along.

    There are those who have the funds, but forget to pay their bills
    on-time.

    Most renters are clueless about what a landlord has to do to preserve
    their legal rights. A landlord can't let a tenant slide on rent due
    date. If a contract term is not enforced, it may take longer to evict
    a tenant...like an extra month where I live.

    Faking the wealthy lifestyle to impress Instagram, but
    can't actually afford the rent, or something?

    Need a statistical breakdown on who are late on rent. There are gold
    diggers looking for a rich mate, etc. There are people who fear
    living in dump like apartments, etc.

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Sep 12 01:48:54 2023
    On 2023-09-11, JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:
    I can't say, but in general, too many people max out their pocket
    book, and then an unexpected expense comes along.

    There are those who have the funds, but forget to pay their bills
    on-time.

    Most renters are clueless about what a landlord has to do to preserve
    their legal rights. A landlord can't let a tenant slide on rent due
    date. If a contract term is not enforced, it may take longer to evict
    a tenant...like an extra month where I live.

    Fair enough. But for higher rent abodes, you'd think you're dealing
    with a more sophisticated level of tenant, who would/should understand
    the terms, etc.

    You bring up a good point though: let your deadbeat tenants stay around,
    you've stopped being a tenant and officially begun a new career as a
    social project/NGO.

    Was thinking too about old people growing senile, forgetting to pay
    their rent etc., not getting enough support from their estranged
    children, and so on.

    Anyway, a mystery.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Sep 11 21:07:03 2023
    On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 01:48:54 +0100, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    a more sophisticated level of tenant

    Not having full contract awareness can be an issue. As a landlord, I
    have explained contract terms before a contract is signed, and this
    reduces issues.

    With one tenant who was coming back from a vacation one day after the
    rent was due, he thought this would be OK to pay the rent then. Under
    state law, I must send out via US Mail a notice I do not approve, and
    if rent is not paid within several days, then the lease is terminated.

    Here, this person did not have dishonest intentions, but was clueless
    about what I have to do for a contractual reason.

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Retrograde on Tue Sep 12 00:06:34 2023
    On 9/11/2023 8:48 PM, Retrograde wrote:
    On 2023-09-11, JAB<[email protected]d> wrote:

    Most renters are clueless about what a landlord has to do to preserve
    their legal rights. A landlord can't let a tenant slide on rent due
    date. If a contract term is not enforced, it may take longer to evict
    a tenant...like an extra month where I live.

    I can't blame landlords for starting the eviction process as early as
    possible. The longer you give deadbeat tenants, the more time they have
    to trash the place, all the while not paying rent.

    Was thinking too about old people growing senile, forgetting to pay
    their rent etc., not getting enough support from their estranged
    children, and so on.

    Sad, but it happens... Working in a call center for years, one of the
    calls from Frontier communications, I won't ever forget. This guy was
    around 90 years old or so. He was confused, but mostly irate. He
    insisted that he didn't owe us any money, and had no clue why he was
    being billed. The old guy was talking on the same phone number that we
    were billing him for using... I could see this on the caller ID, but I
    could not get through to him. Poor guy was losing it mentally, and I
    guess that he had no help. The account had accrued many months of debt
    due to non payment, but wasn't shut off. This was probably because the
    phone line had been active since the 1950's, and up until fairly
    recently, it always had an excellent payment history.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Sep 12 06:50:35 2023
    On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 00:06:34 -0400, Michael Trew
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    The longer you give deadbeat tenants, the more time they have
    to trash the place, all the while not paying rent.

    My first renter was female with two kids, and feared wage garnishment,
    due to a vehicle loan on a vehicle that shot craps. She would work,
    but "had" to change employers several times. She was a good person.

    I ended up when the lease was terminated with another vehicle of hers
    that broke down, and sold this for less than the rent owed. She
    wasn't a deadbeat, but a person caught in a dire economic consequence.

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  • From rdh@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Sep 13 11:17:57 2023
    On 9/12/23 06:50, JAB wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 00:06:34 -0400, Michael Trew
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    The longer you give deadbeat tenants, the more time they have
    to trash the place, all the while not paying rent.

    My first renter was female with two kids, and feared wage garnishment,
    due to a vehicle loan on a vehicle that shot craps. She would work,
    but "had" to change employers several times. She was a good person.

    I ended up when the lease was terminated with another vehicle of hers
    that broke down, and sold this for less than the rent owed. She
    wasn't a deadbeat, but a person caught in a dire economic consequence.

    Good thing you kicked her out on the street, then. We can't have good
    people with affordable housing.

    --
    ~rdh

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to rdh on Wed Sep 13 11:52:29 2023
    On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 11:17:57 -0500, rdh <[email protected]ute> wrote:

    Good thing you kicked her out on the street, then.

    Never did....she moved in with her boyfriend in another city.

    She wanted to rent my place again, and I would have, but it was
    rented.

    She attempted to make it right then....big difference when a renter
    shits on a landlord.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to rdh on Wed Sep 13 18:43:10 2023
    On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 11:17:57 -0500, rdh <[email protected]ute> wrote:

    kicked her out on the street

    Commercial landlords will fully exercise their legal
    options...analogous to a traffic cop ticketing those who don't follow
    traffic laws.

    Since 1980s, I have terminated two renters...the one I mentioned, and
    a female renter ask me to terminate the lease since her boyfriend was
    being a jerk, which I was aware of....youngish couple not married

    I lock them in for six months, and after that either party (me/them)
    can terminate the lease with a month's notice. Too many landlords in
    my area are locking them in a year to year lease.

    I lease one home, which I own...nothing more. Long term renters tend
    to be the ones with a "vested" interest in local area, or those with
    roots there. Renting to an out of state person may not be to a
    landlord's best interest. I had two of those, and within six months
    both had left for living in another state. And renting to someone
    just out of high school is not a good idea too....due to their
    ignorance, they may cause damage/etc to the place.

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