If the rumors are right, the iPhone 15 will ship with a USB-C port and
charging cable that'll give customers a taste of the trouble. That
cable reportedly will be fine for charging but will transfer data at a
mere 480 megabytes per second, the poky speed that arrived with the
USB 2.0 standard from 2000.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/when-the-iphone-15-brings-you-usb-c-beware-the-cable-mess/


Put that dude on dialup for a year, so he can appreciate 480 megabytes
per second

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JAB wrote:

If the rumors are right, the iPhone 15 will ship with a USB-C port and charging cable that'll give customers a taste of the trouble. That
cable reportedly will be fine for charging but will transfer data at a
mere 480 megabytes per second, the poky speed that arrived with the
USB 2.0 standard from 2000.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/when-the-iphone-15-brings-you-usb-c-beware-the-cable-mess/



If true, that would be Apple giving the middle finger to the EU.

Sometimes, "be careful what you wish for" is a good idiom...

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Am 09.09.2023 um 20:40:00 Uhr schrieb Blueshirt:

JAB wrote:

If the rumors are right, the iPhone 15 will ship with a USB-C port
and charging cable that'll give customers a taste of the trouble.
That cable reportedly will be fine for charging but will transfer
data at a mere 480 megabytes per second, the poky speed that
arrived with the USB 2.0 standard from 2000.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/when-the-iphone-15-brings-you-usb-c-beware-the-cable-mess/

If true, that would be Apple giving the middle finger to the EU.

Sometimes, "be careful what you wish for" is a good idiom...

Why don't the provide USB 1.1 with 11 MBit/s?

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On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 20:40:00 +0200, "Blueshirt"
<[email protected]> wrote:

If true, that would be Apple giving the middle finger to the EU.

It's been suggested for a faster speed, that's right, you will have to
buy apple's cable.

Just a rumor.....

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JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

If the rumors are right, the iPhone 15 will ship with a USB-C port and charging cable that'll give customers a taste of the trouble. That
cable reportedly will be fine for charging but will transfer data at a
mere 480 megabytes per second, the poky speed that arrived with the
USB 2.0 standard from 2000.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/when-the-iphone-15-brings-you-usb-c-beware-the-cable-mess/

Put that dude on dialup for a year, so he can appreciate 480 megabytes
per second

It's 480 megabits per second, or about 60 megabytes per second.
(and that's the wire speed, not the data transfer speed, which is quite a
bit less)

I expect the dude wasn't transferring gigabytes of photos when dialup was
the thing.

Theo

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On 10 Sep 2023 09:27:12 +0100 (BST), Theo
<[email protected]> wrote:

It's 480 megabits per second, or about 60 megabytes per second.

According to leaker Majin Bu, who has previously shared details about
Apple's new cables, the USB-C cables supplied in iPhone 15 boxes are
indeed limited to USB 2.0 data transfer speeds at a rate of 480 MBps,
which is the same as Lightning.

In contrast, rumors converge on both iPhone 15 Pro models supporting
higher USB-C transfer speeds. According to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo,
the iPhone 15 Pro models will support "at least" USB 3.2 or
Thunderbolt 3. For comparison, the iPad Pro features a Thunderbolt
port for transfer speeds up to 40 Gbps, while the entry-level iPad's
USB-C port is limited to just 480 Mbps.

With the higher-specification data transfer speed, iPhone 15 Pro
models will therefore be able to transfer video and other file types
much more quickly than the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus.

https://www.macrumors.com/2023/08/24/iphone-15-usb-c-cable-usb2-transfer-speeds/

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My experience with most iPhone users is that the cable is used
exclusively for charging. There is no data transfer between computers
and devices anymore, except by way of iCloud sync--and even then, it's
just incidental.

--
~rdh

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rdh wrote:

My experience with most iPhone users is that the cable is used
exclusively for charging. There is no data transfer between computers
and devices anymore, except by way of iCloud sync--and even then, it's
just incidental.

I can't remember the last time I used a cable anyway... my iPhone charges wirelessly and everything else goes via Bluetooth or Wi-Fi.

I also can't remember the last time I opened iTunes on my PC let alone
synced anything to it!!!

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On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 11:32:56 -0500, rdh <[email protected]ute> wrote:

My experience with most iPhone users is that the cable is used
exclusively for charging.

Don't know how many people connect an iPhone to a display, but only
video bandwidth is needed.

A number of FAQs exist on "Import photos and videos from an iPhone to
PC"

I suppose those who take lots of pics would do transfer.

Myself, the iPhone 11 is used as a home phone, and a trip phone, so
there is no need to do transfers. I've never used the cable for
charging.

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On 9/11/2023 3:21 PM, Blueshirt wrote:

rdh wrote:

My experience with most iPhone users is that the cable is used
exclusively for charging. There is no data transfer between computers
and devices anymore, except by way of iCloud sync--and even then, it's
just incidental.

I can't remember the last time I used a cable anyway... my iPhone charges wirelessly and everything else goes via Bluetooth or Wi-Fi.

I also can't remember the last time I opened iTunes on my PC let alone
synced anything to it!!!

I used to work for Apple Support, and then (circa 2015), we still
advised people to connect the smart phone to a computer to back up.
Many did not want to pay for iCloud.

I don't have a smart phone myself (don't care for them), but I
occasionally sync an old iPod to iTunes in order to transfer songs.

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On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 21:24:24 -0500
JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

A number of FAQs exist on "Import photos and videos from an iPhone to
PC"

The ease of this on Android is one of the things that attracted me to
the platform. I've got an FTP/SFTP/SMB client on my Android phone that
allows me to transfer anything I want to a local server. Works so well
I love it.

All my pics go onto a local NAS. One less monthly bill to pay.

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On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 21:21:20 +0200, "Blueshirt"
<[email protected]> wrote:

I can't remember the last time I used a cable anyway... my iPhone charges >wirelessly and everything else goes via Bluetooth or Wi-Fi.

In a survey conducted by cell phone trade-in site SellCell, 44 percent
of Android users surveyed said they would switch to the iPhone if the
new phone had a USB-C port.

https://mashable.com/article/apple-iphone-usb-c-charging-confirmed

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On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 19:17:22 -0500
JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 21:21:20 +0200, "Blueshirt"
<[email protected]> wrote:

I can't remember the last time I used a cable anyway... my iPhone charges >wirelessly and everything else goes via Bluetooth or Wi-Fi.

In a survey conducted by cell phone trade-in site SellCell, 44 percent
of Android users surveyed said they would switch to the iPhone if the
new phone had a USB-C port.

https://mashable.com/article/apple-iphone-usb-c-charging-confirmed

Seems like a strange criterion on which to hang an important platform
change like that. Yay American consumers, endless hilarity.

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On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 20:40:00 +0200, "Blueshirt"
<[email protected]> wrote:

If true

While all four models use USB-C charging as a standard, the speed of
data transfer varies between base and Pro models. Only the Pro models
support USB 3, which offers faster 10Gbps speeds. But if you want to
take advantage of those faster speeds, you'll need to buy your own USB
3 cable since Apple ships all phones with just a USB 2 cable.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/every-iphone-15-model-compared-base-vs-plus-vs-pro-vs-pro-max/

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JAB wrote:

On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 20:40:00 +0200, "Blueshirt"
<[email protected]> wrote:

If true

While all four models use USB-C charging as a standard, the speed of
data transfer varies between base and Pro models. Only the Pro models
support USB 3, which offers faster 10Gbps speeds. But if you want to
take advantage of those faster speeds, you'll need to buy your own USB
3 cable since Apple ships all phones with just a USB 2 cable.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/every-iphone-15-model-compared-base-vs-plus-vs-pro-vs-pro-max/

Thank fuck...

1) I'm not going to rush out and upgrade my iPhone anytime soon.

2) I rarely use cables with my iPhone these days anyway.

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On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 03:10:50 +0200, "Blueshirt"
<[email protected]> wrote:

1) I'm not going to rush out and
upgrade my iPhone anytime soon.

For most people, the camera tweaks are not relevant.

Satellite SOS function is something to consider for those being in non
cell coverage areas.

eSim only for US models...other countries may have both Sim and eSim.
I'm not sure why Apple is doing this to US customers...Apple makes
bucks when eSim models are produced, but I don't know if some/all cell companies prefer eSim only.


Guess who has the patent for ELECTRONIC SUBSCRIBER IDENTITY MODULE
(eSIM)?

That's right, Apple

2017-05-17
Application filed by Apple Inc https://patents.google.com/patent/US20170338962A1/en

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JAB wrote:

On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 03:10:50 +0200, "Blueshirt"
<[email protected]> wrote:

1) I'm not going to rush out and
upgrade my iPhone anytime soon.

For most people, the camera tweaks are not relevant.

They tweaked the camera?! Jolly exciting. It's great to see the pinnacle
of innovation in action. Steve Jobs would be proud of them! :-)

I will hang on to my 11 Pro for a year or two yet...

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On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 20:34:30 +0200, "Blueshirt"
<[email protected]> wrote:

They tweaked the camera?

Well yeah, Apple is similar now to the Nokia 808 PureView, which came
out in 2012 with a 41 MP sensor. But Apple does not have the
high-resolution f/2.4 Zeiss all-aspherical 1-group lens



"As of 2023, despite larger 1" sensors and AI processing modern
cameraphones can't provide resolution better than Nokia PureView 808
at least in broad daylight."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_808_PureView

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