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  • Former Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio gets

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 5 19:43:54 2023
    Former Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio gets record 22 years in prison
    for Jan. 6 seditious conspiracy
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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Thu Sep 7 00:11:37 2023
    On 2023-09-06, JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Former Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio gets record 22 years in prison
    for Jan. 6 seditious conspiracy
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    Not clear to me why this sentence was stronger than others, if he was apparently fundraising and cheering from the sidelines, not actually
    smashing windows and vandalizing. Maybe because he played a leadership
    role?

    Enjoy jailtime, brother.

    Really enjoying these guys' apologies. They are so regretful,
    remorseful, penitant, reformed. They vow to go to church every day
    henceforth and help little old ladies cross the street, join the Boy
    Scouts, pick up litter.

    But I'm more enjoying that satifying bitchslap sound of reality and consequences.


    "This isn't 'Nam, Smokey. There are rules."

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  • From Eli the Bearded@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Sep 7 00:19:31 2023
    In misc.news.internet.discuss, Retrograde <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Not clear to me why this sentence was stronger than others, if he was apparently fundraising and cheering from the sidelines, not actually
    smashing windows and vandalizing. Maybe because he played a leadership
    role?

    My _guess_: Collaborated with police, showing he knew it was wrong, yet
    did not temper his behavior.

    "This isn't 'Nam, Smokey. There are rules."

    Not enough rules in Nam led to a whole lot of problems.

    Elijah
    ------
    My Lai didn't come out of the blue

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to *@eli.users.panix.com on Wed Sep 6 19:50:57 2023
    On Thu, 7 Sep 2023 00:19:31 -0000 (UTC), Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:

    Not enough rules in Nam led to a whole lot of problems.

    Keep in mind those solider's had loaded guns.

    Some (many?) coming back, who fought in jungle warfare, were sent
    stateside or to Europe, and had attitude/emotional issues.

    When a muscular football player went to Nam, they gave him a machine
    gun. A machine gun operator receives lots of enemy firepower. This
    person you did not want to tick off....hot tempered.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Sep 6 19:35:01 2023
    On Thu, 7 Sep 2023 00:11:37 +0100, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Not clear to me why this sentence was stronger than others

    "orchestrating his far-right extremist group's attack on the U.S.
    Capitol in a failed bid to stop the transfer of presidential power
    after Donald Trump lost the 2020 election."

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Sep 6 22:17:00 2023
    On Wed, 06 Sep 2023 19:35:01 -0500
    JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Thu, 7 Sep 2023 00:11:37 +0100, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Not clear to me why this sentence was stronger than others

    "orchestrating his far-right extremist group's attack on the U.S.
    Capitol in a failed bid to stop the transfer of presidential power
    after Donald Trump lost the 2020 election."

    So ... leadership role. Well, he gets 22 blissful years in the pokey
    to think about why he fucked up and just how dumb his dumbass really
    was.

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to Eli the Bearded on Wed Sep 6 22:15:46 2023
    On Thu, 7 Sep 2023 00:19:31 -0000 (UTC)
    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:

    "This isn't 'Nam, Smokey. There are rules."

    Not enough rules in Nam led to a whole lot of problems.

    Agreed. It's a quote from a movie (The Big Lebowski). You can find it
    on Youtube.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 7 06:25:00 2023
    On Wed, 6 Sep 2023 22:17:00 -0400, Retrograde <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    So ... leadership role.

    Correct....."empowerment" tends to swell people's perceived
    self-importance.

    He pleaded for leniency, and suggested "I am not a political zealot. Inflicting harm or changing the results of the election was not my
    goal."

    We have no ideal what ideations rolled around in his head, but I
    suspect many of those tried and convicted have lower IQs.

    And orange face was laughing when these suckers and losers were doing
    his bidding.

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Thu Sep 7 12:45:35 2023
    On Thu, 07 Sep 2023 06:25:00 -0500
    JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Wed, 6 Sep 2023 22:17:00 -0400, Retrograde <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    So ... leadership role.

    Correct....."empowerment" tends to swell people's perceived
    self-importance.

    He pleaded for leniency, and suggested "I am not a political zealot. Inflicting harm or changing the results of the election was not my
    goal."

    Makes you wonder WTF he thought he was doing. Organizing a cookie sale
    for the girl scouts?

    As for the Cheeto, if sentences get longer as you go up the chain, he
    may yet answer for his crimes.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 7 12:19:35 2023
    On Thu, 7 Sep 2023 12:45:35 -0400, Retrograde <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    As for the Cheeto

    So far, his strategies to postpone court dates aren't working.

    And he got his butt kicked in the second E. Jean Carroll defamation
    case. No trial, but a court date to determine damages.

    I'm wondering if he is paying for damages, or he is using those
    suckers and losers monies.

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to JAB on Thu Sep 7 14:10:08 2023
    On Thu, 07 Sep 2023 12:19:35 -0500
    JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Thu, 7 Sep 2023 12:45:35 -0400, Retrograde <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    As for the Cheeto

    So far, his strategies to postpone court dates aren't working.

    And he got his butt kicked in the second E. Jean Carroll defamation
    case. No trial, but a court date to determine damages.

    I'm wondering if he is paying for damages, or he is using those
    suckers and losers monies.

    As long as people keep putting money in his PAC, he'll have money to
    fund lawyers. One of these days, folks will learn they're wasting good
    money by betting on the wrong horse. Fool and his money ...

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 7 15:17:50 2023
    On Wed, 6 Sep 2023 22:17:00 -0400, Retrograde <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    So ... leadership role.

    Before trial, USA offered Proud Boys plea deals, revealed yesterday.

    They passed. Result:
    Offer | Sentence after trial
    Tarrio 9-11 yrs| 22 yrs
    Nordean 6-8 yrs | 18 yrs
    Biggs 6-8 yrs | 17 yrs
    Rehl 6-7 yrs | 15 yrs
    Pezzola 4-5 yrs | 10 yrs

    https://twitter.com/rparloff/status/1699751415076266140

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  • From rdh@21:1/5 to Retrograde on Thu Sep 7 17:01:03 2023
    On 9/7/23 13:10, Retrograde wrote:
    As long as people keep putting money in his PAC, he'll have money to
    fund lawyers. One of these days, folks will learn they're wasting good
    money by betting on the wrong horse. Fool and his money ...

    Don't count on it. As P.T. Barnum said, there's a sucker born every minute.

    --
    ~rdh

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to rdh on Fri Sep 8 19:11:35 2023
    On 9/7/2023 6:01 PM, rdh wrote:
    On 9/7/23 13:10, Retrograde wrote:
    As long as people keep putting money in his PAC, he'll have money to
    fund lawyers. One of these days, folks will learn they're wasting good
    money by betting on the wrong horse. Fool and his money ...

    Don't count on it. As P.T. Barnum said, there's a sucker born every minute.

    In his time, the world population was much smaller... I'd speculate that
    there might be a sucker born every second, nowadays.

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