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  • Re: 14th Amendment

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 26 10:46:33 2023
    On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 16:32:00 -0500, ErnieB <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Okay, let's avoid jumping the gun.

    A good overview on how this amendment came about, with the irony that Republicans then fully supported it.



    History Offers Answers in the New Debate Over Trump v. the
    Constitution

    A new debate over the 14th Amendment could squash the former
    president's 2024 campaign.

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/08/25/14th-amendment-insurrection-00112777

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 2 19:50:23 2023
    On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 16:32:00 -0500, ErnieB <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Okay, let's avoid jumping the gun.

    Secretaries of state, using procedures set by the state legislature,
    must fairly determine the eligibility of all who seek a place on the
    state's presidential primary ballot. Selecting someone who is
    constitutionally disqualified isn't an option.

    washingtonpost.com
    Opinion | Forget the Trump trials. He might already be ineligible for
    2024.
    If the Constitution bars Trump from the presidency, then he's not
    entitled to be on the ballot, and state election officials should keep https://twitter.com/tribelaw/status/1695438237894902141

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 8 06:01:41 2023
    On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 16:32:00 -0500, ErnieB <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Okay, let's avoid jumping the gun.


    A lawsuit seeks to bar Trump from the primary in Colorado, citing Constitution's insurrection clause

    A liberal group on Wednesday filed a lawsuit to bar former President
    Donald Trump from the primary ballot in Colorado, arguing he is
    ineligible to run for the White House again under a rarely used clause
    in the U.S. Constitution aimed at candidates who have supported an "insurrection."

    The lawsuit, citing the 14th Amendment, is likely the initial step in
    a legal challenge that seems destined for the U.S. Supreme Court. The
    complaint was filed on behalf of six Republican and unaffiliated
    Colorado voters by the group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.
    ...
    ...
    Liberal groups have demanded that states' top election officials bar
    Trump under the clause that prohibits those who "engaged in an
    insurrection or rebellion" against the Constitution from holding
    higher office. None has taken that step, looking for guidance from the
    courts on how to interpret a clause that has only been used a handful
    of times since the 1860s.

    https://apnews.com/article/trump-insurrection-constitution-2024-election-primary-ballot-19ca3f17881e8818302cb1260e7c2aed

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri Sep 8 11:11:43 2023
    On Fri, 08 Sep 2023 06:01:41 -0500, JAB <[email protected]d> wrote:


    A liberal group on Wednesday filed a lawsuit to bar former President
    Donald Trump from the primary ballot in Colorado

    The complaint was filed on behalf of six Republican and unaffiliated
    Colorado voters by the group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in >Washington.

    Hmm...six Republicans.... .

    Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics

    Oh, this is a liberal group?

    "Founded in 2003 as a counterweight to conservative government
    watchdog groups such as Judicial Watch, CREW works to expose ethics
    violations and corruption by government officials and institutions and
    to reduce the role of money in politics. "

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_for_Responsibility_and_Ethics_in_Washington

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 10 11:48:11 2023
    On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 16:32:00 -0500, ErnieB <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Okay, let's avoid jumping the gun.

    "This constitutional provision is not a punishment, it is a
    qualification. Just as a 30-year-old cannot serve as president,
    neither can someone who engaged in insurrection."

    msnbc.com
    Opinion | How we plan to ban Trump from the ballot in Colorado
    This new lawsuit is not an academic exercise. It can succeed.

    https://twitter.com/tribelaw/status/1700875620387893720

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 18 19:24:19 2023
    On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 16:32:00 -0500, ErnieB <[email protected]>
    wrote:


    Okay, let's avoid jumping the gun.

    Overview by Judge Lluttig, who advised Pence on how to handle the
    January 6, 2021 matter.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1703840471485718773.html

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