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    From Shasa Ambrosia@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 11 23:16:49 2022
    In Oregon state customers can't pump there own fuel.
    I'm new to Oregon.
    Scenario- I pull up to the pump and the attendant puts the fuel nozzle to my tank. I hand him$100 and ask for $20 in fuel. He walks off and I assume he starts to fuel me up. Takes a while assisting other customers and eventually comes back with my change.
    Hands me my change. does something with the pump (I'm assuming he's finished here) I say thanks man, have a good night. I turn my car on and begin driving off and *BaM* I pull the nozzle & hose from the disconnect.
    I had to provide insurance. For the possibility of breaking the hose.
    I don't feel like I'm at fault. They guy handed me my change so I believed he was finished. Normally when I receive my change the attendant is finished pumping. Who's responsible for the fuel hose in this situation?

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  • From Roy@21:1/5 to Shasa Ambrosia on Fri Mar 11 23:39:58 2022
    On 3/11/2022 11:16 PM, Shasa Ambrosia wrote:
    In Oregon state customers can't pump there own fuel.

    Mostly true. Depends on the county. Rural areas allow pump your own
    after normal hours. There was another attempt to repeal the rule this
    year but it failed.


    I'm new to Oregon.
    Scenario- I pull up to the pump and the attendant puts the fuel nozzle to my tank. I hand him$100 and ask for $20 in fuel. He walks off and I assume he starts to fuel me up. Takes a while assisting other customers and eventually comes back with my
    change. Hands me my change. does something with the pump (I'm assuming he's finished here) I say thanks man, have a good night. I turn my car on and begin driving off and *BaM* I pull the nozzle & hose from the disconnect.
    I had to provide insurance. For the possibility of breaking the hose.
    I don't feel like I'm at fault. They guy handed me my change so I believed he was finished. Normally when I receive my change the attendant is finished pumping. Who's responsible for the fuel hose in this situation?


    I too am new to Oregon (3 months) but have visited a number of times.
    The usual transaction for me is to give the attendant my credit card. I
    then get it back almost intermediately. Some time later when the
    fueling is complete then I get a receipt. Sometimes there is a
    significant delay between the pump shutting off and the attendant
    removing the hose but most pumps require the hose to be put back in its receptacle to deliver a receipt.

    You described a similar transaction. You gave the attendant cash and
    then received your change. Probably no fuel was pumped at that point.
    You should have waited for the receipt. You might make sure by telling
    the attendant you want a receipt.

    The attendant didn't tell you that fueling was complete. You believed
    it. I agree that you have some fault.

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  • From John Levine@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 12 13:19:51 2022
    According to Shasa Ambrosia <[email protected]>:
    In Oregon state customers can't pump there own fuel.
    I don't feel like I'm at fault. They guy handed me my change so I believed he was finished. Normally when I receive
    my change the attendant is finished pumping. Who's responsible for the fuel hose in this situation?

    On every car I've owned, I could see in a rear view mirror whether there was a hose
    sticking out of the filler cap. I don't think you've got much of a case.




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  • From Barry Gold@21:1/5 to John Levine on Sat Mar 12 14:54:17 2022
    On 3/12/2022 1:19 PM, John Levine wrote:
    According to Shasa Ambrosia <[email protected]>:
    In Oregon state customers can't pump there own fuel.
    I don't feel like I'm at fault. They guy handed me my change so I believed he was finished. Normally when I receive
    my change the attendant is finished pumping. Who's responsible for the fuel hose in this situation?

    On every car I've owned, I could see in a rear view mirror whether there was a hose
    sticking out of the filler cap. I don't think you've got much of a case.

    Most of the cars I've had you can't see the filler cap in the rear view
    mirror. It would probably be the left or right side mirror. And the
    efficacy of those depends on how you have them adjusted. Some people
    have them adjusted to show the adjacent lane, not the actual side of
    their own car.

    Still, I think if you paid attention, you'd notice the hose being in
    that vicinity, so I agree that OP's case is rather weak.


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  • From Rick@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 12 17:56:13 2022
    "Shasa Ambrosia" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

    In Oregon state customers can't pump there own fuel.
    I'm new to Oregon.
    Scenario- I pull up to the pump and the attendant puts the fuel nozzle to
    my tank. I hand him$100 and ask for $20 in fuel. He walks off and I assume
    he starts to fuel me up. Takes a while assisting other customers and >eventually comes back with my change. Hands me my change. does something
    with the pump (I'm assuming he's finished here) I say thanks man, have a
    good night. I turn my car on and begin driving off and *BaM* I pull the >nozzle & hose from the disconnect.
    I had to provide insurance. For the possibility of breaking the hose.
    I don't feel like I'm at fault. They guy handed me my change so I believed
    he was finished. Normally when I receive my change the attendant is
    finished pumping. Who's responsible for the fuel hose in this situation?

    It's hard to see how this could be the attendant's fault. He is just doing
    his job and is apparently following normal procedures in filling the gas
    tank. The only way this could reasonably be the attendant's fault would be
    if he had falsely indicated to the driver that he had finished and had
    removed the hose when he actually hadn't. Otherwise, as in every other
    driving situation, it is the driver's responsibility to assure his car is
    free of any obstructions or impediments before driving off.

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