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  • Arrested judge turns tables on Trump with bold claim citing president's

    From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 17 08:25:32 2025
    https://www.rawstory.com/hannah-dugan-2672020436/


    "“The problems with this prosecution are legion, but most immediately,
    the government cannot prosecute Judge Dugan because she is entitled to
    judicial immunity for her official acts,” wrote her legal team “Immunity
    is not a defense to the prosecution to be determined later by a jury or
    court; it is an absolute bar to the prosecution at the outset.” The
    lawyers explicitly cited the decision by the Supreme Court in Trump v.
    United States, which held that a president has a presumption of immunity
    for official acts.

    The attorneys focused on the Supreme Court's holding that “In dividing official from unofficial conduct, courts may not inquire into the
    President’s motives.” Because Dugan's instructions within her courtroom constituted official conduct, they concluded, “Judge Dugan therefore has
    both immunity from conviction and immunity from prosecution.”

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  • From Roy@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 17 08:40:33 2025
    On 5/17/2025 8:25 AM, Jethro_uk wrote:
    https://www.rawstory.com/hannah-dugan-2672020436/


    "“The problems with this prosecution are legion, but most immediately,
    the government cannot prosecute Judge Dugan because she is entitled to judicial immunity for her official acts,” wrote her legal team “Immunity is not a defense to the prosecution to be determined later by a jury or court; it is an absolute bar to the prosecution at the outset.” The
    lawyers explicitly cited the decision by the Supreme Court in Trump v.
    United States, which held that a president has a presumption of immunity
    for official acts.

    The attorneys focused on the Supreme Court's holding that “In dividing official from unofficial conduct, courts may not inquire into the President’s motives.” Because Dugan's instructions within her courtroom constituted official conduct, they concluded, “Judge Dugan therefore has both immunity from conviction and immunity from prosecution.”



    "she is entitled to judicial immunity for her official acts"

    One story says

    "Federal authorities allege that Dugan went into a hallway in the
    Milwaukee courthouse and directed the agents away from her courtroom,"

    I am not sure this would be an "official" act.

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  • From Rick@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 17 15:06:58 2025
    On 5/17/2025 11:25 AM, Jethro_uk wrote:
    https://www.rawstory.com/hannah-dugan-2672020436/


    "“The problems with this prosecution are legion, but most immediately,
    the government cannot prosecute Judge Dugan because she is entitled to judicial immunity for her official acts,” wrote her legal team “Immunity is not a defense to the prosecution to be determined later by a jury or court; it is an absolute bar to the prosecution at the outset.” The
    lawyers explicitly cited the decision by the Supreme Court in Trump v.
    United States, which held that a president has a presumption of immunity
    for official acts.

    The attorneys focused on the Supreme Court's holding that “In dividing official from unofficial conduct, courts may not inquire into the President’s motives.” Because Dugan's instructions within her courtroom constituted official conduct, they concluded, “Judge Dugan therefore has both immunity from conviction and immunity from prosecution.”


    Maybe I'm missing something here, but how does a ruling regarding not prosecuting a president for official duties have anything to do with not prosecuting a judge for allegedly official duties? I don't recall the
    SC decision applying to any other position besides the President.

    And I agree with those who say that letting a convicted defendant escape
    arrest through a side door probably wouldn't constitute official duties.

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