• Foraging

    From Nick Odell@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 8 22:42:00 2024
    I wonder if somebody would be so kind as to summarise the laws in the
    USA on foraging or better still, point me to a suitable url? If it
    makes any difference we are talking about Colorado and if we need to
    be even more specific we are looking at the Denver-Aurora-Lakewood
    metro area.

    Some friends of mine have recently moved there from a Latin-American
    country where the laws are almost certainly completely different and
    they'd like to know how things work in respect to foraging in their
    new home.

    Many thanks,

    Nick

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  • From Rick@21:1/5 to Nick Odell on Tue Jul 9 08:10:06 2024
    "Nick Odell" wrote in message news:[email protected]...

    I wonder if somebody would be so kind as to summarise the laws in the
    USA on foraging or better still, point me to a suitable url? If it
    makes any difference we are talking about Colorado and if we need to
    be even more specific we are looking at the Denver-Aurora-Lakewood
    metro area.

    Some friends of mine have recently moved there from a Latin-American
    country where the laws are almost certainly completely different and
    they'd like to know how things work in respect to foraging in their
    new home.

    Many thanks,

    Nick

    A quick Google search yields this:

    https://modern-forager.com/colorado-public-lands-mushroom-foraging/


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  • From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to Nick Odell on Tue Jul 9 08:05:16 2024
    On Mon, 08 Jul 2024 22:42:00 -0700, Nick Odell wrote:

    I wonder if somebody would be so kind as to summarise the laws in the
    USA on foraging or better still, point me to a suitable url? If it makes
    any difference we are talking about Colorado and if we need to be even
    more specific we are looking at the Denver-Aurora-Lakewood metro area.

    Some friends of mine have recently moved there from a Latin-American
    country where the laws are almost certainly completely different and
    they'd like to know how things work in respect to foraging in their new
    home.

    Well start with fact that in some countries with other laws it's called "stealing" ...

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jul 9 16:12:11 2024
    In misc.legal.moderated, on Tue, 9 Jul 2024 08:10:06 -0700 (PDT), "Rick" <[email protected]> wrote:

    "Nick Odell" wrote in message >news:[email protected]...

    I wonder if somebody would be so kind as to summarise the laws in the
    USA on foraging or better still, point me to a suitable url? If it
    makes any difference we are talking about Colorado and if we need to

    I'm sure it makes a difference.

    be even more specific we are looking at the Denver-Aurora-Lakewood
    metro area.

    Some friends of mine have recently moved there from a Latin-American >>country where the laws are almost certainly completely different and
    they'd like to know how things work in respect to foraging in their
    new home.

    Many thanks,

    Nick

    A quick Google search yields this:

    https://modern-forager.com/colorado-public-lands-mushroom-foraging/

    Mushrooms were the first thing I thought of. Because of a news story
    about 10 years ago about an Asian family picking wild mushrooms, iirc in California. They looked like what they ate at home but they all got
    sick and some or all died. Regardless of the statutes.

    Given the short life or short appearance on the world stage of mushroom,
    I can't imagine anyone would object wrt public lands,

    Or that they would object much after the fact on private lands (but you
    never know, especially if there was a fence.)

    What do they plan to forage for?
    Diamonds? Cattle? Lambs? Wildflowers? Infants?

    I had a visitor who crossed my tiny bit of land to gather sand from HOA
    land from the shore by the nearby stream. I told him not to take too
    much. He didn't look for creyfish though, but 10 or 20 years later,
    they were gone anyhow. (Too small to eat.)
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  • From Nick Odell@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 10 07:33:37 2024
    On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 16:12:11 -0700 (PDT), micky <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    In misc.legal.moderated, on Tue, 9 Jul 2024 08:10:06 -0700 (PDT), "Rick" ><[email protected]> wrote:

    "Nick Odell" wrote in message >>news:[email protected]...

    I wonder if somebody would be so kind as to summarise the laws in the
    USA on foraging or better still, point me to a suitable url? If it
    makes any difference we are talking about Colorado and if we need to

    I'm sure it makes a difference.

    be even more specific we are looking at the Denver-Aurora-Lakewood
    metro area.

    Some friends of mine have recently moved there from a Latin-American >>>country where the laws are almost certainly completely different and >>>they'd like to know how things work in respect to foraging in their
    new home.

    Many thanks,

    Nick

    A quick Google search yields this:

    https://modern-forager.com/colorado-public-lands-mushroom-foraging/


    Thanks for that.

    Mushrooms were the first thing I thought of. Because of a news story
    about 10 years ago about an Asian family picking wild mushrooms, iirc in >California. They looked like what they ate at home but they all got
    sick and some or all died. Regardless of the statutes.

    Given the short life or short appearance on the world stage of mushroom,
    I can't imagine anyone would object wrt public lands,

    Or that they would object much after the fact on private lands (but you
    never know, especially if there was a fence.)

    What do they plan to forage for?
    Diamonds? Cattle? Lambs? Wildflowers? Infants?

    :-)

    Mostly wild fruits for making jams and preserves

    I had a visitor who crossed my tiny bit of land to gather sand from HOA
    land from the shore by the nearby stream. I told him not to take too
    much. He didn't look for creyfish though, but 10 or 20 years later,
    they were gone anyhow. (Too small to eat.)

    Here in the UK (well, England and Wales anyway, I'm not so sure about
    Scotland) there is a common law right to harvest from wild plants
    growing in the hedgerows along public rights of way and it's been
    established that wild things growing wild on private land to which the
    public have access may be harvested by the public too. You absolutely
    must have the express permission of the land owner to hunt or trap
    anywhere though. Some species of plants and many wild animals are
    protected everywhere which complicates things a little but one mostly
    knows what's what. But just because the USA has a common law justice
    system too (it does, doesn't it?) I wouldn't want to assume that the
    law has evolved in the same way since we went our separate ways.

    But as I said, they are mostly interested in wild fruits.

    Thanks.

    Nick

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  • From Michael Thompson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 11 22:41:18 2024
    On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 22:42:00 -0700 (PDT), Nick Odell <[email protected]> wrote:

    I wonder if somebody would be so kind as to summarise the laws in the
    USA on foraging or better still, point me to a suitable url? If it
    makes any difference we are talking about Colorado and if we need to
    be even more specific we are looking at the Denver-Aurora-Lakewood
    metro area.

    Some friends of mine have recently moved there from a Latin-American
    country where the laws are almost certainly completely different and
    they'd like to know how things work in respect to foraging in their
    new home.

    Many thanks,

    Nick


    They can't trespass on private lands without permission from the land
    owner. You should check with Colorado Wild life officers about Colorado
    parks rules & laws. If they are going to forage on national lands then
    they should contact the local USFS Ranger to see what the rules are for
    that land or park.

    Of course 50 years ago we used to forage for wild strawberries on private land, but we were crumb crunchers and didn't know any better.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Odell on Mon Jun 30 17:40:39 2025
    I guess this is sort of late, but I just saw your post. I like the story
    about Czechoslovakia.

    In misc.legal.moderated, on Wed, 10 Jul 2024 07:33:37 -0700 (PDT), Nick
    Odell <[email protected]> wrote:

    ,,,,
    What do they plan to forage for?
    Diamonds? Cattle? Lambs? Wildflowers? Infants?

    :-)

    Mostly wild fruits for making jams and preserves

    I had a visitor who crossed my tiny bit of land to gather sand from HOA >>land from the shore by the nearby stream. I told him not to take too
    much. He didn't look for creyfish though, but 10 or 20 years later,
    they were gone anyhow. (Too small to eat.)

    Here in the UK (well, England and Wales anyway, I'm not so sure about >Scotland) there is a common law right to harvest from wild plants
    growing in the hedgerows along public rights of way and it's been

    This reminds me of a visit to Czechoslovakia in 1975. Our host pointed
    to the cherry trees that lined the country roads and told us we could
    pick the cherries. (We had a car, from Belgium) But then he added,
    because it was communist, or in spite of being communist, people were
    out there early picking all the cherries and selling them along the
    road. We never got any cherries.

    established that wild things growing wild on private land to which the
    public have access may be harvested by the public too. You absolutely
    must have the express permission of the land owner to hunt or trap
    anywhere though. Some species of plants and many wild animals are
    protected everywhere which complicates things a little but one mostly
    knows what's what. But just because the USA has a common law justice
    system too (it does, doesn't it?)

    It started with one. NYState has... what's the word?... written
    legislation to replace all of common law (yet NY court decisions still
    matter.) but NYS has a lot of people and a lot of law, several times
    the amount of case law that Maryland has

    I don't know about other states, and I guess I don't even know about NY. > I wouldn't want to assume that the
    law has evolved in the same way since we went our separate ways.

    Definitely can't assume that.

    But as I said, they are mostly interested in wild fruits.

    I don't even know what fruits grow wild or where you can find them.

    Many states have a state college "extension" service that helps both
    farmers and homeowners with garden questions. Colorado probablby does,
    or just ask people what government agency does this. They would be a
    good place to start to find out the rules in Colorado. Or the police,
    though they might have to look it up or call the prosecutor. I don't
    think this comes up often.

    Despite how wrong Rick's link showed I was about mushroom foraging, I
    still can't believe if someone took fruit that was going to rot anyhow,
    because no one else planned to get it, that anyone would complain. I'll
    admit that wouldn't apply in a park in downtown Denver.

    Thanks.

    Nick

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    I think you can tell, but just to be sure:
    I am not a lawyer.

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  • From Nick Odell@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 1 05:44:49 2025
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 17:40:39 -0700 (PDT), micky <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    In misc.legal.moderated, on Wed, 10 Jul 2024 07:33:37 -0700 (PDT), Nick
    Odell <[email protected]> wrote:

    ,,,,
    What do they plan to forage for?
    Diamonds? Cattle? Lambs? Wildflowers? Infants?

    :-)

    Mostly wild fruits for making jams and preserves

    I had a visitor who crossed my tiny bit of land to gather sand from HOA >>>land from the shore by the nearby stream. I told him not to take too >>>much. He didn't look for creyfish though, but 10 or 20 years later,
    they were gone anyhow. (Too small to eat.)

    Here in the UK (well, England and Wales anyway, I'm not so sure about >>Scotland) there is a common law right to harvest from wild plants
    growing in the hedgerows along public rights of way and it's been

    This reminds me of a visit to Czechoslovakia in 1975. Our host pointed
    to the cherry trees that lined the country roads and told us we could
    pick the cherries. (We had a car, from Belgium) But then he added,
    because it was communist, or in spite of being communist, people were
    out there early picking all the cherries and selling them along the
    road. We never got any cherries.

    established that wild things growing wild on private land to which the >>public have access may be harvested by the public too. You absolutely
    must have the express permission of the land owner to hunt or trap
    anywhere though. Some species of plants and many wild animals are >>protected everywhere which complicates things a little but one mostly
    knows what's what. But just because the USA has a common law justice
    system too (it does, doesn't it?)

    It started with one. NYState has... what's the word?... written
    legislation to replace all of common law (yet NY court decisions still >matter.) but NYS has a lot of people and a lot of law, several times
    the amount of case law that Maryland has

    I don't know about other states, and I guess I don't even know about NY. > I wouldn't want to assume that the
    law has evolved in the same way since we went our separate ways.

    Definitely can't assume that.

    But as I said, they are mostly interested in wild fruits.

    I don't even know what fruits grow wild or where you can find them.

    Many states have a state college "extension" service that helps both
    farmers and homeowners with garden questions. Colorado probablby does,
    or just ask people what government agency does this. They would be a
    good place to start to find out the rules in Colorado. Or the police,
    though they might have to look it up or call the prosecutor. I don't
    think this comes up often.

    Despite how wrong Rick's link showed I was about mushroom foraging, I
    still can't believe if someone took fruit that was going to rot anyhow, >because no one else planned to get it, that anyone would complain. I'll >admit that wouldn't apply in a park in downtown Denver.


    I guess this is sort of late, but I just saw your post. I like the story >about Czechoslovakia.

    Thanks.

    My personal cautionary tale about Czechoslovakia would have been about
    the contractual complications I experienced (and gave up on) when that
    country split into two and became different legal entities. Needless
    to say it had nothing to do with foraging!

    Thanks again,

    Nick

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