My brother's father died when he was 1, and his/our mother remarried
when he was 5 and her hasband (later to be my father) adopted my brother
and changed his surname.

Now his son wants a copy of his birth cerrtificate and there is a
problem. Indiana does not like it that neither grandson nor son have
the same aurname as is on the birth Certificate, BC, and they want the
BC to be amended, which may require hiring a lawyer in a state where
none of us still live.

Do other states make the same demand, or is Indiana wacko?

Forgetting about the cost, time, and inconvenience, isn't this bass
ackwards? It's one thing if a woman gave a baby up within a few days of
giving birth and the adoptive parents want their name on the birth
certificate, as if the past never happened, but after 5 years shouldn't
the cert show his name when he was born? It's not like they can convince
my brother he was born to my father years before his mother ever met my
father. They shouldn't be rewriting history. My mother and her new
husband who adopted him certianly didn't care what was on the birth certificate, and if genes mean anything they probably agreed with me.

And now, how does my brother prove that he was the baby with the same
first but a different last name? It's been 80 years. If they are going
to take his word in order to amend the BC, they could take his word now
without any amendment that he's the same person.


P.non-S. My nephew's mother was born in Mexico and now he wants to
establish his Mexican citizenship (which I have read he already has but
the Mexican government doens't know he exists). Why does Mexico care
about the details of his father's birth? He's not Mexican, he doens't
claim to be. Maybe he's Martian. It's the boy's mother who makes him eligible. is this bureaucracy gone wild?

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According to micky <[email protected]>:

My brother's father died when he was 1, and his/our mother remarried
when he was 5 and her hasband (later to be my father) adopted my brother
and changed his surname.

Now his son wants a copy of his birth cerrtificate and there is a
problem. Indiana does not like it that neither grandson nor son have
the same aurname as is on the birth Certificate, BC, and they want the
BC to be amended, which may require hiring a lawyer in a state where
none of us still live.

Do other states make the same demand, or is Indiana wacko?

When a child is adopted, part of the usual process is to issue an
amended birth certificate with the child's new name. In case of infant adoptions they often sealed the original certificate to make the birth
parents hard to find, although I realize that doesn't apply here.

I realize it was a long time ago, but is there any chance that there
was an amended BC and you just don't have a copy? Have you asked
the vital records office whether they have BC with the new name?

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In misc.legal.moderated, on Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:26:50 -0700 (PDT), "John
Levine" <[email protected]> wrote:

According to micky <[email protected]>:

My brother's father died when he was 1, and his/our mother remarried
when he was 5 and her hasband (later to be my father) adopted my brother >>and changed his surname.

Now his son wants a copy of his birth cerrtificate and there is a
problem. Indiana does not like it that neither grandson nor son have
the same aurname as is on the birth Certificate, BC, and they want the
BC to be amended, which may require hiring a lawyer in a state where
none of us still live.

Do other states make the same demand, or is Indiana wacko?

When a child is adopted, part of the usual process is to issue an
amended birth certificate with the child's new name. In case of infant >adoptions they often sealed the original certificate to make the birth >parents hard to find,

I finally realize that I knew about this practice and I approved of it,
when the adoptee is, say, under a year.

although I realize that doesn't apply here.

but all I could see in this case is that it was ridiculous for a 5 year
old, and some children are adoped when they are 16 or `17.

I realize it was a long time ago, but is there any chance that there
was an amended BC and you just don't have a copy? Have you asked
the vital records office whether they have BC with the new name?

I think now what might have happened is my nephew looked for his
father's BC using his birth name. Like I would have done. When I
reminded him what his father's birth name was, he said "yes, I know".
But maybe now it's only stored under his adopted name.

But I looked some more and it seems to me, Mexico only wants the BC of
the Mexican parents. My brother could have been born on Mars and Mexico wouldn't care. I wrote that to my nephew a week ago but of course he
hasn't gotten back to me.

Thanks for the help.

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