I tried to google this and found slightly related things, but not on my >point.
If you are a witness at a congressional committee hearing and you say to
one of the congressmen,
I have plenty respect for Congress, but I have no respect for you,
are you off the hook?
Or can they get you for contempt?
Has this been litigated.
And as an aside, do state legislatures have committee hearings where
they threaten people with contempt?
"micky" wrote in message news:[email protected]... >>
I tried to google this and found slightly related things, but not on my >>point.
If you are a witness at a congressional committee hearing and you say to >>one of the congressmen,
I have plenty respect for Congress, but I have no respect for you,
are you off the hook?
Or can they get you for contempt?
Has this been litigated.
And as an aside, do state legislatures have committee hearings where
they threaten people with contempt?
I do not believe that telling a congressman "I have no respect for you" is >grounds for contempt. I presume contempt means refusing to comply with a >subpoena, or refusing to turn over requested documents or refusing to >testify.
In misc.legal.moderated, on Wed, 5 Jun 2024 16:02:12 -0700 (PDT), "Rick" ><[email protected]> wrote:
"micky" wrote in message >>news:[email protected]...
I tried to google this and found slightly related things, but not on my >>>point.
If you are a witness at a congressional committee hearing and you say to >>>one of the congressmen,
I have plenty respect for Congress, but I have no respect for you,
are you off the hook?
Or can they get you for contempt?
Has this been litigated.
And as an aside, do state legislatures have committee hearings where
they threaten people with contempt?
I do not believe that telling a congressman "I have no respect for you" is >>grounds for contempt. I presume contempt means refusing to comply with a >>subpoena, or refusing to turn over requested documents or refusing to >>testify.
Do you think it would be considered contempt if you said to Judge Aileen >Cannon, "I think it's great that you don't let your rulings be affected
by considerations of your own reputation and that you rule as you think
you should even if it causes you to be be regarded as ignorant of the
lawy and a hack and a stooge for Donald Trump."
"micky" wrote in message news:[email protected]... >>
In misc.legal.moderated, on Wed, 5 Jun 2024 16:02:12 -0700 (PDT), "Rick" >><[email protected]> wrote:
"micky" wrote in message >>>news:[email protected]...
I tried to google this and found slightly related things, but not on my >>>>point.
If you are a witness at a congressional committee hearing and you say to >>>>one of the congressmen,
I have plenty respect for Congress, but I have no respect for you,
are you off the hook?
Or can they get you for contempt?
Has this been litigated.
And as an aside, do state legislatures have committee hearings where >>>>they threaten people with contempt?
I do not believe that telling a congressman "I have no respect for you" is >>>grounds for contempt. I presume contempt means refusing to comply with a >>>subpoena, or refusing to turn over requested documents or refusing to >>>testify.
Do you think it would be considered contempt if you said to Judge Aileen >>Cannon, "I think it's great that you don't let your rulings be affected
by considerations of your own reputation and that you rule as you think
you should even if it causes you to be be regarded as ignorant of the
lawy and a hack and a stooge for Donald Trump."
Courtrooms are different from Congress. Congress just wants answers to
their questions, and if you refuse their requests for info, that's when you >are likely to be hit with a contempt charge. But you're not dealing with a >judge who is trying to control a courtroom. A judge in a courtroom expects
a certain degree of deference and decorum, and I do think a defendant or >lawyer who says what you quote could be hit with a contempt charge for those >specific words. I also doubt if any lawyer or even Trump himself would make >that kind of statement directly to the judge.
--
In misc.legal.moderated, on Thu, 6 Jun 2024 11:16:01 -0700 (PDT), "Rick" ><[email protected]> wrote:
"micky" wrote in message >>news:[email protected]...I have to start taking my medicine again, to not notice when I switched
In misc.legal.moderated, on Wed, 5 Jun 2024 16:02:12 -0700 (PDT), "Rick" >>><[email protected]> wrote:
"micky" wrote in message >>>>news:[email protected]...
I tried to google this and found slightly related things, but not on my >>>>>point.
If you are a witness at a congressional committee hearing and you say >>>>>to
one of the congressmen,
I have plenty respect for Congress, but I have no respect for you, >>>>>
are you off the hook?
Or can they get you for contempt?
Has this been litigated.
And as an aside, do state legislatures have committee hearings where >>>>>they threaten people with contempt?
I do not believe that telling a congressman "I have no respect for you" >>>>is
grounds for contempt. I presume contempt means refusing to comply with >>>>a
subpoena, or refusing to turn over requested documents or refusing to >>>>testify.
Do you think it would be considered contempt if you said to Judge Aileen >>>Cannon, "I think it's great that you don't let your rulings be affected >>>by considerations of your own reputation and that you rule as you think >>>you should even if it causes you to be be regarded as ignorant of the >>>lawy and a hack and a stooge for Donald Trump."
Courtrooms are different from Congress. Congress just wants answers to >>their questions, and if you refuse their requests for info, that's when
you
are likely to be hit with a contempt charge. But you're not dealing with >>a
judge who is trying to control a courtroom. A judge in a courtroom
expects
a certain degree of deference and decorum, and I do think a defendant or >>lawyer who says what you quote could be hit with a contempt charge for >>those
specific words. I also doubt if any lawyer or even Trump himself would >>make
that kind of statement directly to the judge.
from Congress to courts. Sorry.
Okay, how about this:
When Margery Taylor Greene refused to address Dr. Anthony Fauci as
Doctor, in a committee hearing a few days ago. would it be contempt if
he answered her question, "Margie, that's an interesting question...."?
After all, it seemed like she was trying to get close to him.
--
In misc.legal.moderated, on Thu, 6 Jun 2024 11:16:01 -0700 (PDT), "Rick" <[email protected]> wrote:
"micky" wrote in message news:[email protected]... >>>I have to start taking my medicine again, to not notice when I switched
In misc.legal.moderated, on Wed, 5 Jun 2024 16:02:12 -0700 (PDT), "Rick" >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
"micky" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I tried to google this and found slightly related things, but not on my >>>>> point.
If you are a witness at a congressional committee hearing and you say to >>>>> one of the congressmen,
I have plenty respect for Congress, but I have no respect for you, >>>>>
are you off the hook?
Or can they get you for contempt?
Has this been litigated.
And as an aside, do state legislatures have committee hearings where >>>>> they threaten people with contempt?
I do not believe that telling a congressman "I have no respect for you" is >>>> grounds for contempt. I presume contempt means refusing to comply with a >>>> subpoena, or refusing to turn over requested documents or refusing to
testify.
Do you think it would be considered contempt if you said to Judge Aileen >>> Cannon, "I think it's great that you don't let your rulings be affected
by considerations of your own reputation and that you rule as you think
you should even if it causes you to be be regarded as ignorant of the
lawy and a hack and a stooge for Donald Trump."
Courtrooms are different from Congress. Congress just wants answers to
their questions, and if you refuse their requests for info, that's when you >> are likely to be hit with a contempt charge. But you're not dealing with a >> judge who is trying to control a courtroom. A judge in a courtroom expects >> a certain degree of deference and decorum, and I do think a defendant or
lawyer who says what you quote could be hit with a contempt charge for those >> specific words. I also doubt if any lawyer or even Trump himself would make >> that kind of statement directly to the judge.
from Congress to courts. Sorry.
Okay, how about this:
When Margery Taylor Greene refused to address Dr. Anthony Fauci as
Doctor, in a committee hearing a few days ago. would it be contempt if
he answered her question, "Margie, that's an interesting question...."?
After all, it seemed like she was trying to get close to him.
On 6/7/2024 11:10 PM, micky wrote:
In misc.legal.moderated, on Thu, 6 Jun 2024 11:16:01 -0700 (PDT), "Rick"
<[email protected]> wrote:
"micky" wrote in message news:[email protected]...I have to start taking my medicine again, to not notice when I switched
In misc.legal.moderated, on Wed, 5 Jun 2024 16:02:12 -0700 (PDT), "Rick" >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
"micky" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I tried to google this and found slightly related things, but not on my >>>>>> point.
If you are a witness at a congressional committee hearing and you say to >>>>>> one of the congressmen,
I have plenty respect for Congress, but I have no respect for you, >>>>>>
are you off the hook?
Or can they get you for contempt?
Has this been litigated.
And as an aside, do state legislatures have committee hearings where >>>>>> they threaten people with contempt?
I do not believe that telling a congressman "I have no respect for you" is
grounds for contempt. I presume contempt means refusing to comply with a
subpoena, or refusing to turn over requested documents or refusing to >>>>> testify.
Do you think it would be considered contempt if you said to Judge Aileen >>>> Cannon, "I think it's great that you don't let your rulings be affected >>>> by considerations of your own reputation and that you rule as you think >>>> you should even if it causes you to be be regarded as ignorant of the
lawy and a hack and a stooge for Donald Trump."
Courtrooms are different from Congress. Congress just wants answers to
their questions, and if you refuse their requests for info, that's when you >>> are likely to be hit with a contempt charge. But you're not dealing with a
judge who is trying to control a courtroom. A judge in a courtroom expects >>> a certain degree of deference and decorum, and I do think a defendant or >>> lawyer who says what you quote could be hit with a contempt charge for those
specific words. I also doubt if any lawyer or even Trump himself would make
that kind of statement directly to the judge.
from Congress to courts. Sorry.
Okay, how about this:
When Margery Taylor Greene refused to address Dr. Anthony Fauci as
Doctor, in a committee hearing a few days ago. would it be contempt if
he answered her question, "Margie, that's an interesting question...."?
After all, it seemed like she was trying to get close to him.
Whether or not she was trying to get close to him, it's not contempt of >Congress. As others have pointed out, CoCongress is refusing to show up
and testify, or refusing to comply with a demand to bring physical
evidence like papers.
In misc.legal.moderated, on Thu, 13 Jun 2024 15:36:41 -0700 (PDT), Barry
Gold <[email protected]> wrote:
On 6/7/2024 11:10 PM, micky wrote:
In misc.legal.moderated, on Thu, 6 Jun 2024 11:16:01 -0700 (PDT), "Rick" >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
"micky" wrote in messageI have to start taking my medicine again, to not notice when I switched
news:[email protected]...
In misc.legal.moderated, on Wed, 5 Jun 2024 16:02:12 -0700 (PDT),
"Rick"
<[email protected]> wrote:
"micky" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I tried to google this and found slightly related things, but not on >>>>>>> my
point.
If you are a witness at a congressional committee hearing and you >>>>>>> say to
one of the congressmen,
I have plenty respect for Congress, but I have no respect for >>>>>>> you,
are you off the hook?
Or can they get you for contempt?
Has this been litigated.
And as an aside, do state legislatures have committee hearings where >>>>>>> they threaten people with contempt?
I do not believe that telling a congressman "I have no respect for >>>>>> you" is
grounds for contempt. I presume contempt means refusing to comply >>>>>> with a
subpoena, or refusing to turn over requested documents or refusing to >>>>>> testify.
Do you think it would be considered contempt if you said to Judge
Aileen
Cannon, "I think it's great that you don't let your rulings be
affected
by considerations of your own reputation and that you rule as you
think
you should even if it causes you to be be regarded as ignorant of the >>>>> lawy and a hack and a stooge for Donald Trump."
Courtrooms are different from Congress. Congress just wants answers to >>>> their questions, and if you refuse their requests for info, that's when >>>> you
are likely to be hit with a contempt charge. But you're not dealing
with a
judge who is trying to control a courtroom. A judge in a courtroom
expects
a certain degree of deference and decorum, and I do think a defendant
or
lawyer who says what you quote could be hit with a contempt charge for >>>> those
specific words. I also doubt if any lawyer or even Trump himself would >>>> make
that kind of statement directly to the judge.
from Congress to courts. Sorry.
Okay, how about this:
When Margery Taylor Greene refused to address Dr. Anthony Fauci as
Doctor, in a committee hearing a few days ago. would it be contempt if
he answered her question, "Margie, that's an interesting question...."?
After all, it seemed like she was trying to get close to him.
Whether or not she was trying to get close to him, it's not contempt of >>Congress. As others have pointed out, CoCongress is refusing to show up
and testify, or refusing to comply with a demand to bring physical
evidence like papers.
In that case, why are witness before committees unreasonably pleasant
and polite?
When Alvin Bragg testifies before some kangaroo committeee in July
almost half of those who asks questions will embed falsehoods and
accusations or outright lies in them, and he will answer, I expect,
overly politely. I would say, Your embeeded assumption [that...] is
nonsense and you're either gullible and believe nonsense, or you're
lying. But he won't say that.
When Michael J. Fox testified about Parkingson's Disease in 1988, one
senator (Guess which party) told him he didn't believe his disease was
as serious as it appeared. I'm rather slow-witted, but I think I would
have thought of this in time and would have said, "You've known me for
20 minutes from 15 feet away and you're already calling a liar. How much
time should I take before I do the same to you?" but of course all he
did is repeat something similar to what he'd said in his opening
statement.
[There are several videos and transcripts of his testimony, but I
could only find his opening statement, and no questioning by the usual >suspects.]
There are loads and loads of examples. Is it only that the witnesses
were "raised right", taught to say please and thank you, or are they
afraid of contempt charges which apparently would be impossible for just
not submissively taking crap from committee members?
And they act this way even when the party that agress with them is in
the majority, and the vote will still go their way.
Failure to call out the Congreesmen and Senators when they are lying or
using false embedded asssumptions makes it look like they are reasonable
and the truth or honor of the witnnesses is dubious, even when it's the >reverse.
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