In misc.legal.moderated, on Tue, 4 Jun 2024 21:47:23 -0700 (PDT), micky <
[email protected]> wrote:
Punishement is certainly a worthy goal, but shutting trump up is another
one.
Now that trump is convicted, but he's still sewing trouble and sedition, >would it be within the law for the judge to send him a message,
reminding him that he's showing the opposite of remorse and that that
can be taken into account in sentencing, and that if he stops
completely, insterad of 4 years of prison, he will give him 4 years >suspended, but if he says another word that is in any way negative about
a prosecutor, witness, judge or anyone who works in their departments,
he will unsuspend the sentence and send him to a real prison. I guess
he would only be able to do this for the part of the 4 years left.
Or does this raise serious freedom of speech issues?
Plus there are still 3 or 4 contempt of court instances that he has not
be sentenced for. That would be 90 or 120 days. Plus did the judge
reserve the right to imprison him for the 9 instances he's fined him
for? Does he have to affirmatively reserve the right, or is it
automatic?
Maybe if he shuts up for 4 years or a large part of it, people won't
take him seriously when he starts up again.
Of course this won't silence his henchmen who are just as bad and
comprise most of the bigwigs of the Republican part.
I heard on the news today that trump's lawyer will go to court to ask
that the gag order be removed. This seems like an excellent opportunity
for the judge to say, If you want it removed, first you need to
renounce all the harsh things you've said. You need to say to the
public that you were mistaken in your criticism of the jurors, the
prosecution, and their staff and family, and the judge's staff and
family, that they were just doing their job, (and though they all
reached the wrong conclusions, there was reason to think what they did)
and that anayone who threatens or harms them is sinning and going
totally against my wishes. You need to say that as many times as you
said the opposite, in as fmany forums, to as many news sources,
webpages, social media as you said the opposite before. You need to say
it EVERY DAT in one form or another on so-called Truth Social. And if
you do all that for as long as you did the opposite, I'll remove the gag
order, but I know you are stubborn and recalcitrant so if afterwards,
you violate what had been the gag order even once, it will automatically
go back into effect.
Any reason he can't say that and then do what it says he is going to do?
Personally I don't know why the judge felt the need to exclude himself
from the gag order. Is there a legal reason or is he just being brave?
I am suspicious of his judgment here because he didn't include his
daughter in the first gag order even thougg iirc (and I may not) she had already received attacks from trump. If he was insufficiently
protective of his daughter, he could be being insufficiently protective
of himself for no good reason.
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I think you can tell, but just to be sure:
I am not a lawyer.
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