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Intelligent Party wrote:

We differ temporarily in assets until everyone has everything.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party and a few dozen other socks wrote:

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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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you all want the truth. no such thing as an opinion on communism.
I suggest you listen to the real catholic church, since they have been
around for a long long time, about what political matters are, and what
they mean, as far as to what Jesus said.

So know, what is written of theology of a false church, such as nazi.
Nazi, is a town that was named, at the time of the tower of babel, when
God tied all their tounges so they could not speak to each other.
Why, its the same reason.

Use this link, when you really want the define, of communsim, but do
not expect to find a link on what is a nazi. Iran an Iraq already
defines it, on the maps. Someone very smart, called the Germans
this, when they killed the Jews. God's people.
But it started, a very long time ago. Back in the very Old Testament.

Communism, look it up, on this page. 1957 https://truecarpentry.org/tccwww/cathwww/dogma/catholicbooks/TeologiaMorale1957/DictMoraleTcc57.htm



On 8/29/2024 1:12 PM, Intelligent Party wrote:

On 5/18/2024 2:28 PM, Kirk Spragg wrote:

Hey Victoria though we'd best move that conversation about communism
from FSX to here.

I am a Marxist-Leninist... aka communist/bolshevik/(derogaatory by

ultra

leftists and liberals) tankie
I am a super strong avocate for 20th century Socialism
which is worker's state, centrally planned economy, means of

production ma>seized

by workers, and no markets

Though I'm definitely on the left, I'd have to say that history & the
soviet union's failure to keep up with the west illustrate that a
centrally planned economy just doesn't work well.

under capitalism there is severe exploitation
under socialism exploitation is non existant
exploitation is where someone who dose not contribute to society

live off ma> the

labor of others. aka the capitalist. they live off the labor because

they ma> own

the factories etc. aka the means of production

Again history shows that just isn't the case, at uni I met a number of
Russian and east european academics all of whom had horror stories of how
just how exploitative Russia's socalist state was to its people.

Similarly I know several Chinese Ex-Pats who say similar things about
the CCP & how things are run in China.

How do you envisage a new communist partly/state avoiding this?

... White dwarf seeks red giant for binary relationship.

1) All big businesses started small. Microsoft started in someone's
basement.
2) 50% of the American economy is small businesses.
3) If the state is ever going to wither away, and it's going to be a
Utopia as Karl Marx said, then why don't the Communists just say no one
owns anything today unless they're carrying it?
4) Why not just raise the minimum wage to 50% per capita GDP after taxes?
5) And have free education, and 1/2 minimum wage to non-earners. i.e.
more Socialism, not Communism.
6) Why does the government have to own all the means of production? Why
not just some of the means of food production. Or, what if businesses
merely couldn't ever pay dividends, what would the difference even be?
At the moment I'm not sure how you can restrict spending on high
salaries though, ultimately, everyone should get equal pay (or
consumption) for an hour worked at anything is obvious. We're all equal
in cost and expense and Spirit. We differ temporarily in assets until everyone has everything. Pay (in Capitalism) is a return on capital, for instance your skills and education, more than your labor.
7) Saving is what Capitalism does better than Communism. Capitalists
don't consume everything they produce. China has been saving, and so Communism has apparently worked out a bit there.

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