• Dems Want Kamala Harris To Just Go Away.

    From John Smyth@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 3 18:09:04 2025
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    Republicans don't.

    <https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/02/some-dems-want-kamala-harris-to-sit-midterms-out-00490186>

    'Kamala Harris has misgivings about government. Some Dems have
    misgivings about her.
    There’s a swath of the party that would be glad if Harris doesn’t run in 2028 — or campaign actively in the midterms.

    FILE - Vice President Kamala Harris attends a Department of Defense
    Commander in Chief farewell ceremony at Joint Base Myer-Henderson Hall,
    Jan. 16, 2025, in Arlington, Va. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci, File)
    Former Vice President Kamala Harris announced she isn't running for
    California governor, but she hasn't ruled out another presidential run
    in 2028. | AP

    By Dustin Gardiner, Melanie Mason, Elena Schneider, Brakkton Booker and
    Jeff Coltin
    08/02/2025 04:00 PM EDT


    SAN FRANCISCO — Kamala Harris didn’t shut the door on another White
    House bid when she announced she isn’t running for California governor.
    But she vented about the limitations of government, telling Late Show
    host Stephen Colbert on Thursday that she doesn’t “want to go back in
    the system” for now.

    Many Democrats feel the same about Harris.

    Interviews with nearly two dozen Democratic officials and operatives
    following her announcement this week reflect a swath of the party that
    would be glad if Harris didn’t run in 2028. Moreover, they hope she’ll
    stay on the sidelines in the midterms.

    'If she was gravity for our candidates running in center-right districts
    in 2024, then she will be gravity for them in 2026,” said Lauren Harper
    Pope, co-founder of WelcomePAC, which supports center-left candidates. “So,” she added of Harris’ pledge to campaign for Democrats, “no thank you.”

    The fear is rooted in Harris’ defeat in 2024, and the baggage saddling
    not just Joe Biden, but also his former vice president. Harris, who
    until her appearance this week had kept an exceedingly low profile,
    remains a major fundraising draw and one of the Democratic Party’s most prominent figures — including a huge following on social media. Some Democrats have suggested she could be an active surrogate in 2026. Yet
    as they work to retake the House, many Democrats across the country are nevertheless now uneasy about any intervention from her in the midterms.

    “Downballot candidates outperformed her in 2024, and she was a drag on them,” said a national Democratic operative granted anonymity to speak
    freely about Harris. “These candidates were able to win last year
    because they put distance between themselves and her and the national
    party. Why would we want to do that in 2026 when she’s not on the
    ballot?”

    That is already the assessment in a frontline race in New York.
    Democratic Rep. Laura Gillen, a first-year member who flipped a seat on
    Long Island, will not be inviting Harris to visit her district next year
    as she defends her seat, said a Democratic operative familiar with the
    Gillen campaign who was granted anonymity to speak about a leader in the
    party. Harris won the district by 1.3 percentage points —
    underperforming Gillen, as well as Biden and Hillary Clinton, who had
    won the district by double digits.

    “We will not be asking her to be a surrogate, and I don’t think she
    would necessarily be a good surrogate for us, given that we outperformed her,” the operative said. “Long Island likes people from Long Island. It’s hard with national figures — whether they win or lose.”

    Across the country in Southern California, a Democratic strategist who
    was also granted anonymity to speak frankly said he would prefer Harris
    “go away” because voters equate her with Biden. The greater Los Angeles area, similar to metro New York, could be central to Democrats’ quest to
    take control of the House of Representatives.

    “I wouldn’t want her in my district,” the strategist said.

    Public polling continues to show Harris as a top contender in the still-unformed 2028 field. A July Echelon Insights nationwide survey
    found her leading a field of potential contenders with 26 percent, 15
    points ahead of the nearest Democrat, Pete Buttigieg. That lead,
    however, marked a slippage from the edge she had in May, when she
    notched 32 percent.

    People close to Harris said that while she’s preserving her options for
    a presidential bid, they did not see that as driving her decision not to
    run for governor.

    “I don’t think she’s gotten her head around that yet,” said one Harris confidante, granted anonymity to speak freely, about the possibility of
    a third White House campaign.

    While Harris was widely considered to be the odds-on favorite for
    governor, there was no vocal “Draft Harris” movement seeding the state
    with public shows of support. Even some Harris allies had misgivings
    about a statewide campaign, with several questioning whether she truly
    desired the role. The response to a potential 2028 bid at a recent
    Democratic Party confab in the early-voting state of South Carolina was equally, if not more, tepid.

    Kamala Harris
    Former Vice President Kamala Harris told Late Show host Stephen Colbert
    on Thursday that she doesn’t “want to go back in the system” for now. | Charlie Neibergall/AP Photo

    In her appearance on Colbert’s show, Harris brushed off the comic’s suggestion that she was forgoing statewide office to run for a national
    one. She sounded markedly gloomy about the state of America’s political system: “I think it’s broken,” Harris told Colbert, drawing an audible gasp from the crowd.

    Watch: The Conversation
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    'What would Andy do?': McBride on her late husband's influence on her
    career | The Conversation
    After more than two decades serving in elected office — rising from San Francisco district attorney to California attorney general to senator
    and, ultimately, vice president and Democratic presidential nominee —
    Harris said she was eager to find a new way to be engaged, albeit one
    that would still maintain her profile with everyday people.

    “I want to travel the country,” she told Colbert. “I want to listen to people. I want to talk with people. And I don’t want it to be
    transactional where I’m asking for their vote.”

    Her bearish assessment about the state of the country was, in Colbert’s words, “harrowing,” leading Harris, who is focusing on a book tour and potential non-profit initiative, to insist she was not disengaging from
    civic life entirely.

    “In this moment where people have become so deflated and despondent and afraid, those of us who have the ability — which I do right now, not
    being in an office or in a campaign for that office, to be out there and
    to talk with folks and remind them of their power,” she added.

    A Harris spokesperson declined to comment for this story.

    While there is plenty of skepticism within the party’s ranks about her viability in 2028, many prominent Democratic leaders still effuse praise
    for Harris and have touted her as a key asset for candidates in the
    midterms.

    Asked if he wants her to run in 2028, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, her
    former running mate, told POLITICO, “I would welcome it. I think she was
    a great candidate. I think she would make a great president. I saw how
    she thinks. I saw how she cares about people. So if that’s her decision,
    you know where my heart is.”

    Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker, who’s considered a potential presidential contender himself, boasted about Harris after a bill-signing ceremony
    this week, calling her a “terrific spokesperson” with a storied career
    who can help Democrats speak to the economic challenges facing working
    people.

    Darry Sragow, a veteran Los Angeles-based campaign attorney and
    strategist, said Harris’ decision to take a break and reexamine the country’s political landscape from the outside could arguably make her a
    more compelling candidate, if she decides to reenter the national fray
    down the line.

    “I give her a lot of credit for stepping off the train or treadmill,” he said. “It may very well make her a much stronger candidate.”

    Still, many Democratic strategists, including fans of the former vice president, remain ambivalent about her chances in 2028, despite early
    polling. They cited Biden’s apparent decline while in office and
    lingering questions about when Harris might have been aware of the
    issue.

    “The now undisputed Biden decline, his reckless decision to seek
    reelection, and what she knew and when she knew it, will be a dark cloud
    on another Harris candidacy,” said Jay Surdukowski, a Democratic
    operative in the early primary state of New Hampshire.

    Mark Longabaugh, a Washington-based consultant and former top adviser to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, said, “We’re coming off a big, stinging
    defeat … I just don’t see how she does it, the baggage they’re going to carry from the Biden administration.”

    One former senior Harris staffer put it even more bluntly: “I don’t
    think she can win the Democratic primary, so therefore, if I was
    advising her, I would say, ‘Don’t run in 2028.’” From the party’s perspective, the former staffer said, “I think there are better nominees
    out there who allow us to turn the page.”'

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to John Smyth on Sun Aug 3 22:33:01 2025
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    On 2025-08-03, John Smyth <[email protected]> wrote:
    Republicans don't.

    <https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/02/some-dems-want-kamala-harris-to-sit-midterms-out-00490186>

    'Kamala Harris has misgivings about government. Some Dems have
    misgivings about her.
    There’s a swath of the party that would be glad if Harris doesn’t run in 2028 — or campaign actively in the midterms.

    FILE - Vice President Kamala Harris attends a Department of Defense
    Commander in Chief farewell ceremony at Joint Base Myer-Henderson Hall,
    Jan. 16, 2025, in Arlington, Va. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci, File)
    Former Vice President Kamala Harris announced she isn't running for California governor, but she hasn't ruled out another presidential run
    in 2028. | AP

    By Dustin Gardiner, Melanie Mason, Elena Schneider, Brakkton Booker and
    Jeff Coltin
    08/02/2025 04:00 PM EDT


    SAN FRANCISCO — Kamala Harris didn’t shut the door on another White
    House bid when she announced she isn’t running for California governor.
    But she vented about the limitations of government, telling Late Show
    host Stephen Colbert on Thursday that she doesn’t “want to go back in
    the system” for now.

    Many Democrats feel the same about Harris.

    Interviews with nearly two dozen Democratic officials and operatives following her announcement this week reflect a swath of the party that
    would be glad if Harris didn’t run in 2028. Moreover, they hope she’ll stay on the sidelines in the midterms.

    'If she was gravity for our candidates running in center-right districts
    in 2024, then she will be gravity for them in 2026,” said Lauren Harper Pope, co-founder of WelcomePAC, which supports center-left candidates. “So,” she added of Harris’ pledge to campaign for Democrats, “no thank
    you.”

    The fear is rooted in Harris’ defeat in 2024, and the baggage saddling
    not just Joe Biden, but also his former vice president. Harris, who
    until her appearance this week had kept an exceedingly low profile,
    remains a major fundraising draw and one of the Democratic Party’s most prominent figures — including a huge following on social media. Some Democrats have suggested she could be an active surrogate in 2026. Yet
    as they work to retake the House, many Democrats across the country are nevertheless now uneasy about any intervention from her in the midterms.

    “Downballot candidates outperformed her in 2024, and she was a drag on them,” said a national Democratic operative granted anonymity to speak freely about Harris. “These candidates were able to win last year
    because they put distance between themselves and her and the national
    party. Why would we want to do that in 2026 when she’s not on the ballot?”

    That is already the assessment in a frontline race in New York.
    Democratic Rep. Laura Gillen, a first-year member who flipped a seat on
    Long Island, will not be inviting Harris to visit her district next year
    as she defends her seat, said a Democratic operative familiar with the
    Gillen campaign who was granted anonymity to speak about a leader in the party. Harris won the district by 1.3 percentage points —
    underperforming Gillen, as well as Biden and Hillary Clinton, who had
    won the district by double digits.

    “We will not be asking her to be a surrogate, and I don’t think she
    would necessarily be a good surrogate for us, given that we outperformed her,” the operative said. “Long Island likes people from Long Island. It’s hard with national figures — whether they win or lose.”

    Across the country in Southern California, a Democratic strategist who
    was also granted anonymity to speak frankly said he would prefer Harris
    “go away” because voters equate her with Biden. The greater Los Angeles area, similar to metro New York, could be central to Democrats’ quest to take control of the House of Representatives.

    “I wouldn’t want her in my district,” the strategist said.

    Public polling continues to show Harris as a top contender in the still-unformed 2028 field. A July Echelon Insights nationwide survey
    found her leading a field of potential contenders with 26 percent, 15
    points ahead of the nearest Democrat, Pete Buttigieg. That lead,
    however, marked a slippage from the edge she had in May, when she
    notched 32 percent.

    People close to Harris said that while she’s preserving her options for
    a presidential bid, they did not see that as driving her decision not to
    run for governor.

    “I don’t think she’s gotten her head around that yet,” said one Harris
    confidante, granted anonymity to speak freely, about the possibility of
    a third White House campaign.

    While Harris was widely considered to be the odds-on favorite for
    governor, there was no vocal “Draft Harris” movement seeding the state with public shows of support. Even some Harris allies had misgivings
    about a statewide campaign, with several questioning whether she truly desired the role. The response to a potential 2028 bid at a recent
    Democratic Party confab in the early-voting state of South Carolina was equally, if not more, tepid.

    Kamala Harris
    Former Vice President Kamala Harris told Late Show host Stephen Colbert
    on Thursday that she doesn’t “want to go back in the system” for now. |
    Charlie Neibergall/AP Photo

    In her appearance on Colbert’s show, Harris brushed off the comic’s suggestion that she was forgoing statewide office to run for a national
    one. She sounded markedly gloomy about the state of America’s political system: “I think it’s broken,” Harris told Colbert, drawing an audible gasp from the crowd.

    Watch: The Conversation
    Play Video
    'What would Andy do?': McBride on her late husband's influence on her
    career | The Conversation
    After more than two decades serving in elected office — rising from San Francisco district attorney to California attorney general to senator
    and, ultimately, vice president and Democratic presidential nominee — Harris said she was eager to find a new way to be engaged, albeit one
    that would still maintain her profile with everyday people.

    “I want to travel the country,” she told Colbert. “I want to listen to people. I want to talk with people. And I don’t want it to be
    transactional where I’m asking for their vote.”

    Her bearish assessment about the state of the country was, in Colbert’s words, “harrowing,” leading Harris, who is focusing on a book tour and potential non-profit initiative, to insist she was not disengaging from
    civic life entirely.

    “In this moment where people have become so deflated and despondent and afraid, those of us who have the ability — which I do right now, not
    being in an office or in a campaign for that office, to be out there and
    to talk with folks and remind them of their power,” she added.

    A Harris spokesperson declined to comment for this story.

    While there is plenty of skepticism within the party’s ranks about her viability in 2028, many prominent Democratic leaders still effuse praise
    for Harris and have touted her as a key asset for candidates in the
    midterms.

    Asked if he wants her to run in 2028, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, her
    former running mate, told POLITICO, “I would welcome it. I think she was
    a great candidate. I think she would make a great president. I saw how
    she thinks. I saw how she cares about people. So if that’s her decision, you know where my heart is.”

    Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker, who’s considered a potential presidential contender himself, boasted about Harris after a bill-signing ceremony
    this week, calling her a “terrific spokesperson” with a storied career who can help Democrats speak to the economic challenges facing working people.

    Darry Sragow, a veteran Los Angeles-based campaign attorney and
    strategist, said Harris’ decision to take a break and reexamine the country’s political landscape from the outside could arguably make her a more compelling candidate, if she decides to reenter the national fray
    down the line.

    “I give her a lot of credit for stepping off the train or treadmill,” he said. “It may very well make her a much stronger candidate.”

    Still, many Democratic strategists, including fans of the former vice president, remain ambivalent about her chances in 2028, despite early polling. They cited Biden’s apparent decline while in office and
    lingering questions about when Harris might have been aware of the
    issue.

    “The now undisputed Biden decline, his reckless decision to seek reelection, and what she knew and when she knew it, will be a dark cloud
    on another Harris candidacy,” said Jay Surdukowski, a Democratic
    operative in the early primary state of New Hampshire.

    Mark Longabaugh, a Washington-based consultant and former top adviser to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, said, “We’re coming off a big, stinging defeat … I just don’t see how she does it, the baggage they’re going to carry from the Biden administration.”

    One former senior Harris staffer put it even more bluntly: “I don’t
    think she can win the Democratic primary, so therefore, if I was
    advising her, I would say, ‘Don’t run in 2028.’” From the party’s perspective, the former staffer said, “I think there are better nominees out there who allow us to turn the page.”'

    Harris was on Colbert the other day and she was a complete train wreck.
    She sounded like she was either drunk or high.

    I don't blame the democrats for wanting her and Biden as well to disappear. Both are toxic to the party.


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    Then our choices make us."
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