• Re: About those anchor babies ...

    From Brad Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 27 12:09:00 2025
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    On 22 Jan 2025, TRS80 <[email protected]> posted some news:[email protected]:

    Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:vmshaq$1bcsc$[email protected]:

    On 1/21/2025 5:06 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 1/21/2025 5:41 PM, Snag wrote:
    The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads in part: All
    persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to
    the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the
    State wherein they reside."



    Has the United States recognized anchor babies as citizens of the
    USA for 150 years?

    There is a proper legal way to amend the Constitution and existing
    amendments.  It is not a Presidential order.

    Yes, it should be changed, but do it the right way, we are not a
    dictatorship.

    This website serves to explain the original intent of the Fourteenth
    (14th) Amendment to the US Constitution, and how it is currently
    misinterpreted to give citizenship to children born in the United
    States of illegal alien parents. These children, via their birthright
    citizenship, act as anchor babies and can, upon reaching the age of
    majority, facilitate bringing their extended family into the US in
    order to obtain citizenship. Although some experts believe that a
    Constitutional amendment would be necessary to remedy the
    misinterpretation, many believe that Congressional action would be
    sufficient and is urgently warranted.


    https://www.14thamendment.us/index.html

    You are absolutely correct.

    An amendment is not necessary. All that is needed is to apply the 14th Amendment.

    Thank you.

    Kick the illegals out, knocked up or not, and give each one a Democrat to
    take back to their native country with them.

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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Brad Sherman on Mon Jan 27 13:38:15 2025
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    On 1/27/2025 4:09 AM, Brad Sherman wrote:
    On 22 Jan 2025, TRS80 <[email protected]> posted some news:[email protected]:

    Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:vmshaq$1bcsc$[email protected]:

    On 1/21/2025 5:06 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 1/21/2025 5:41 PM, Snag wrote:
    The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads in part: All
    persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to
    the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the
    State wherein they reside."



    Has the United States recognized anchor babies as citizens of the
    USA for 150 years?

    There is a proper legal way to amend the Constitution and existing
    amendments.  It is not a Presidential order.

    Yes, it should be changed, but do it the right way, we are not a
    dictatorship.

    This website serves to explain the original intent of the Fourteenth
    (14th) Amendment to the US Constitution, and how it is currently
    misinterpreted to give citizenship to children born in the United
    States of illegal alien parents. These children, via their birthright
    citizenship, act as anchor babies and can, upon reaching the age of
    majority, facilitate bringing their extended family into the US in
    order to obtain citizenship. Although some experts believe that a
    Constitutional amendment would be necessary to remedy the
    misinterpretation, many believe that Congressional action would be
    sufficient and is urgently warranted.


    https://www.14thamendment.us/index.html

    You are absolutely correct.

    An amendment is not necessary. All that is needed is to apply the 14th
    Amendment.

    Thank you.

    Kick the illegals out, knocked up or not, and give each one a Democrat to take back to their native country with them.


    Selena Gomez is crying crocodile tears over "her people" being sent back
    to their Hispanic failed states.

    https://nypost.com/2025/01/27/entertainment/selena-gomez-sobs-over-ice-arrests-in-deleted-video-with-mexican-flag/

    --
    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: mass-migration, LGBTQ, and war."
    Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Jan 27 15:47:46 2025
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    On 1/27/2025 3:38 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 1/27/2025 4:09 AM, Brad Sherman wrote:
    On 22 Jan 2025, TRS80 <[email protected]> posted some
    news:[email protected]:

    Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:vmshaq$1bcsc$[email protected]:

    On 1/21/2025 5:06 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 1/21/2025 5:41 PM, Snag wrote:
    The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads in part: All
    persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to
    the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the >>>>>> State wherein they reside."



    Has the United States recognized anchor babies as citizens of the
    USA for 150 years?

    There is a proper legal way to amend the Constitution and existing
    amendments.  It is not a Presidential order.

    Yes, it should be changed, but do it the right way, we are not a
    dictatorship.

    This website serves to explain the original intent of the Fourteenth
    (14th) Amendment to the US Constitution, and how it is currently
    misinterpreted to give citizenship to children born in the United
    States of illegal alien parents. These children, via their birthright
    citizenship, act as anchor babies and can, upon reaching the age of
    majority, facilitate bringing their extended family into the US in
    order to obtain citizenship. Although some experts believe that a
    Constitutional amendment would be necessary to remedy the
    misinterpretation, many believe that Congressional action would be
    sufficient and is urgently warranted.


    https://www.14thamendment.us/index.html

    You are absolutely correct.

    An amendment is not necessary. All that is needed is to apply the 14th
    Amendment.

    Thank you.

    Kick the illegals out, knocked up or not, and give each one a Democrat to
    take back to their native country with them.


    Selena Gomez is crying crocodile tears over "her people" being sent back
    to their Hispanic failed states.

    https://nypost.com/2025/01/27/entertainment/selena-gomez-sobs-over-ice- arrests-in-deleted-video-with-mexican-flag/


    Some are criminals and should be sent back. Send the wrong ones though,
    and you mess up the US economy. We really need some of them to do
    certain jobs, usually unskilled and low paying. Who is going to replace
    them?

    Many high school kids have after school jobs, but not picking crops.
    Many are on payroll and pay into the Social Security and Medicare funds
    but will never get any of that back. Present retirees are getting that
    money.

    Center for American Progress: In 2021, the Center for American Progress reported that about 23% of construction laborers were undocumented
    immigrants

    Send them back, but who is going to replace them?

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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Ed P on Mon Jan 27 15:03:58 2025
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    On 1/27/2025 1:47 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 1/27/2025 3:38 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 1/27/2025 4:09 AM, Brad Sherman wrote:
    On 22 Jan 2025, TRS80 <[email protected]> posted some
    news:[email protected]:

    Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:vmshaq$1bcsc$[email protected]:

    On 1/21/2025 5:06 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 1/21/2025 5:41 PM, Snag wrote:
    The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads in part: All
    persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to >>>>>>> the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the >>>>>>> State wherein they reside."



    Has the United States recognized anchor babies as citizens of the >>>>>>> USA for 150 years?

    There is a proper legal way to amend the Constitution and existing >>>>>> amendments.  It is not a Presidential order.

    Yes, it should be changed, but do it the right way, we are not a
    dictatorship.

    This website serves to explain the original intent of the Fourteenth >>>>> (14th) Amendment to the US Constitution, and how it is currently
    misinterpreted to give citizenship to children born in the United
    States of illegal alien parents. These children, via their birthright >>>>> citizenship, act as anchor babies and can, upon reaching the age of
    majority, facilitate bringing their extended family into the US in
    order to obtain citizenship. Although some experts believe that a
    Constitutional amendment would be necessary to remedy the
    misinterpretation, many believe that Congressional action would be
    sufficient and is urgently warranted.


    https://www.14thamendment.us/index.html

    You are absolutely correct.

    An amendment is not necessary. All that is needed is to apply the 14th >>>> Amendment.

    Thank you.

    Kick the illegals out, knocked up or not, and give each one a
    Democrat to
    take back to their native country with them.


    Selena Gomez is crying crocodile tears over "her people" being sent
    back to their Hispanic failed states.

    https://nypost.com/2025/01/27/entertainment/selena-gomez-sobs-over-
    ice- arrests-in-deleted-video-with-mexican-flag/


    Some are criminals and should be sent back.  Send the wrong ones though,
    and you mess up the US economy.  We really need some of them to do
    certain jobs, usually unskilled and low paying.  Who is going to replace them?

    Many high school kids have after school jobs, but not picking crops.
    Many are on payroll and pay into the Social Security and Medicare funds
    but will never get any of that back.  Present retirees are getting that money.

    Center for American Progress: In 2021, the Center for American Progress reported that about 23% of construction laborers were undocumented
    immigrants

    Send them back, but who is going to replace them?

    You raise good questions. So far, from my observations garnered from
    "the news", only dangerous criminal aliens are being rounded up and
    deported. I would imagine that out of 340 million Americans, it
    wouldn't be difficult to find construction workers as long as they're
    paid American wages.

    --
    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: mass-migration, LGBTQ, and war."
    Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Jan 27 17:15:19 2025
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    On 1/27/2025 5:03 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 1/27/2025 1:47 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 1/27/2025 3:38 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 1/27/2025 4:09 AM, Brad Sherman wrote:
    On 22 Jan 2025, TRS80 <[email protected]> posted some
    news:[email protected]:

    Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:vmshaq$1bcsc$[email protected]:

    On 1/21/2025 5:06 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 1/21/2025 5:41 PM, Snag wrote:
    The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads in part: All >>>>>>>> persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to >>>>>>>> the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the >>>>>>>> State wherein they reside."



    Has the United States recognized anchor babies as citizens of the >>>>>>>> USA for 150 years?

    There is a proper legal way to amend the Constitution and existing >>>>>>> amendments.  It is not a Presidential order.

    Yes, it should be changed, but do it the right way, we are not a >>>>>>> dictatorship.

    This website serves to explain the original intent of the Fourteenth >>>>>> (14th) Amendment to the US Constitution, and how it is currently
    misinterpreted to give citizenship to children born in the United
    States of illegal alien parents. These children, via their birthright >>>>>> citizenship, act as anchor babies and can, upon reaching the age of >>>>>> majority, facilitate bringing their extended family into the US in >>>>>> order to obtain citizenship. Although some experts believe that a
    Constitutional amendment would be necessary to remedy the
    misinterpretation, many believe that Congressional action would be >>>>>> sufficient and is urgently warranted.


    https://www.14thamendment.us/index.html

    You are absolutely correct.

    An amendment is not necessary. All that is needed is to apply the 14th >>>>> Amendment.

    Thank you.

    Kick the illegals out, knocked up or not, and give each one a
    Democrat to
    take back to their native country with them.


    Selena Gomez is crying crocodile tears over "her people" being sent
    back to their Hispanic failed states.

    https://nypost.com/2025/01/27/entertainment/selena-gomez-sobs-over-
    ice- arrests-in-deleted-video-with-mexican-flag/


    Some are criminals and should be sent back.  Send the wrong ones
    though, and you mess up the US economy.  We really need some of them
    to do certain jobs, usually unskilled and low paying.  Who is going to
    replace them?

    Many high school kids have after school jobs, but not picking crops.
    Many are on payroll and pay into the Social Security and Medicare
    funds but will never get any of that back.  Present retirees are
    getting that money.

    Center for American Progress: In 2021, the Center for American
    Progress reported that about 23% of construction laborers were
    undocumented immigrants

    Send them back, but who is going to replace them?

    You raise good questions.  So far, from my observations garnered from
    "the news", only dangerous criminal aliens are being rounded up and deported.  I would imagine that out of 340 million Americans, it
    wouldn't be difficult to find construction workers as long as they're
    paid American wages.

    There are about 8 million people employed in construction. If the 23%
    is correct, that is 1.8 million. Right now there are 6.9 million
    unemployed. Are 1/3 of them ready and able to start working in
    construction? What about the harvest?

    Nice to always talk about job creation, but we don't have enough people
    to do everything needing doing.

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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 29 18:27:09 2025
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On 27 Jan 2025, Ed P <[email protected]> posted some news:vn90ho$192t4$[email protected]:

    On 1/27/2025 5:03 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 1/27/2025 1:47 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 1/27/2025 3:38 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 1/27/2025 4:09 AM, Brad Sherman wrote:
    On 22 Jan 2025, TRS80 <[email protected]> posted some
    news:[email protected]:

    Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:vmshaq$1bcsc$[email protected]:

    On 1/21/2025 5:06 PM, Ed P wrote:
    On 1/21/2025 5:41 PM, Snag wrote:
    The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads in part: All >>>>>>>>> persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject >>>>>>>>> to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States >>>>>>>>> and the State wherein they reside."



    Has the United States recognized anchor babies as citizens of >>>>>>>>> the USA for 150 years?

    There is a proper legal way to amend the Constitution and
    existing amendments.  It is not a Presidential order.

    Yes, it should be changed, but do it the right way, we are not >>>>>>>> a dictatorship.

    This website serves to explain the original intent of the
    Fourteenth (14th) Amendment to the US Constitution, and how it
    is currently misinterpreted to give citizenship to children born >>>>>>> in the United States of illegal alien parents. These children,
    via their birthright citizenship, act as anchor babies and can,
    upon reaching the age of majority, facilitate bringing their
    extended family into the US in order to obtain citizenship.
    Although some experts believe that a Constitutional amendment
    would be necessary to remedy the misinterpretation, many believe >>>>>>> that Congressional action would be sufficient and is urgently
    warranted.


    https://www.14thamendment.us/index.html

    You are absolutely correct.

    An amendment is not necessary. All that is needed is to apply the
    14th Amendment.

    Thank you.

    Kick the illegals out, knocked up or not, and give each one a
    Democrat to
    take back to their native country with them.


    Selena Gomez is crying crocodile tears over "her people" being sent
    back to their Hispanic failed states.

    https://nypost.com/2025/01/27/entertainment/selena-gomez-sobs-over-
    ice- arrests-in-deleted-video-with-mexican-flag/


    Some are criminals and should be sent back.  Send the wrong ones
    though, and you mess up the US economy.  We really need some of
    them to do certain jobs, usually unskilled and low paying.  Who is
    going to replace them?

    Many high school kids have after school jobs, but not picking crops.
    Many are on payroll and pay into the Social Security and Medicare
    funds but will never get any of that back.  Present retirees are
    getting that money.

    Center for American Progress: In 2021, the Center for American
    Progress reported that about 23% of construction laborers were
    undocumented immigrants

    Send them back, but who is going to replace them?

    You raise good questions.  So far, from my observations garnered
    from "the news", only dangerous criminal aliens are being rounded up
    and deported.  I would imagine that out of 340 million Americans, it
    wouldn't be difficult to find construction workers as long as they're
    paid American wages.

    There are about 8 million people employed in construction. If the 23%
    is correct, that is 1.8 million. Right now there are 6.9 million
    unemployed. Are 1/3 of them ready and able to start working in
    construction? What about the harvest?

    Get with the times, bub. Nobody needs all those illegals to harvest
    produce. More and more of it is automated to reduce the management
    aggravation and cost of transient immigrant presence. The US averages
    around 2.5 million acres of vegetable produce alone every year. You got
    any idea how long it takes to pick an acre and how many people it would
    take to do it by hand before the stuff rots in the ground? Machines can
    do it better faster.

    We don't need people to pick corn, soybeans or wheat, combines do it.

    We can harvest oranges, apples, plums, cranberries and nuts etc., faster
    and more efficiently than humans using automated machines.

    We need mechanics, machinists and manufacturing jobs.

    Nice to always talk about job creation, but we don't have enough
    people to do everything needing doing.

    We have plenty of people to do the work. The problem is they are too
    damned lazy, stupid, stoned, or think they are too good to do it. The
    only skills large city kids have exiting high school are snottiness,
    ebike riding and smart phone operation. They can't even follow simple directions to complete a job application without blanks or misspellings
    using a smart phone. Ask one to do some simple math problems or count
    change without using a damned smartphone. They can't do it.

    That's what they have been taught in liberal run schools.

    If you want good smart resourceful workers, get kids from schools in agricultural areas.

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  • From Ed P@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Wed Jan 29 16:08:05 2025
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On 1/29/2025 1:27 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:


    There are about 8 million people employed in construction. If the 23%
    is correct, that is 1.8 million. Right now there are 6.9 million
    unemployed. Are 1/3 of them ready and able to start working in
    construction? What about the harvest?

    Get with the times, bub. Nobody needs all those illegals to harvest
    produce. More and more of it is automated to reduce the management aggravation and cost of transient immigrant presence. The US averages
    around 2.5 million acres of vegetable produce alone every year. You got
    any idea how long it takes to pick an acre and how many people it would
    take to do it by hand before the stuff rots in the ground? Machines can
    do it better faster.

    We don't need people to pick corn, soybeans or wheat, combines do it.

    We can harvest oranges, apples, plums, cranberries and nuts etc., faster
    and more efficiently than humans using automated machines.

    Crops that generally cannot be machine harvested include most delicate
    fruits and vegetables like strawberries, raspberries, grapes,
    artichokes, lettuce, spinach, kale, peppers, kiwis, and many types of
    berries, as they are easily damaged and require careful hand-picking to maintain quality; some specialty crops like saffron and vanilla also
    often rely on manual harvesting

    We need mechanics, machinists and manufacturing jobs.

    The billionaire CEOs sent those jobs to China so they could get a big
    bonus.


    Nice to always talk about job creation, but we don't have enough
    people to do everything needing doing.

    We have plenty of people to do the work. The problem is they are too
    damned lazy, stupid, stoned, or think they are too good to do it. The
    only skills large city kids have exiting high school are snottiness,
    ebike riding and smart phone operation. They can't even follow simple directions to complete a job application without blanks or misspellings
    using a smart phone. Ask one to do some simple math problems or count
    change without using a damned smartphone. They can't do it.

    There are 8.3 million working illegals. We have 6.9 million unemployed.
    What is your plan to come up with the gap?

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