• Re: Elites love open borders, because lawless immigration doesn't hit t

    From Ian@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 30 07:18:46 2023
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    On 07 Dec 2022, Richard Clayton Wieber <[email protected]>
    posted some news:pNdkL.5001$[email protected]:

    Start killing them and string the politicians who keep letting them in
    up.

    There is a term which sums up the madness that New York is engaging in
    when it comes to the illegal migrants: �Luxury beliefs.�

    The phrase was coined a few years back by the young social commentator
    Rob Henderson. It sums up the type of performative beliefs that mostly
    well-off people engage in to demonstrate their �virtue.�

    These days it�s not very �in� to flaunt your wealth. But flaunting your �values� is very much in. It allows a certain type of person to feel �
    and pose as � both morally and socially superior to the rest of us.

    In our day there are few luxury beliefs more glaring than encouraging,
    and being in favor of, mass illegal migration.

    This country already has a complex and expensive legal immigration
    system. People from around the world spend thousands of dollars and even
    more hours trying to negotiate it.

    So why should anybody encourage a parallel system in which anybody who
    walks across the border illegally is also allowed to stay? Because stay
    they certainly do.

    The US Immigration and Customs Enforcement failed to issue summonses to
    more than 80% of migrants who entered the country illegally in the past
    year. And even among those who do get put into the process, the next
    case appointments lie a decade off. So naturally everybody stays.

    Which means everybody else in the world who wants to come will continue
    to come, until we break.

    Perhaps there are some people who imagine that a country of 330 million
    people really can take in the poor and dispossessed of the world and
    improve their lives. Such people clearly have no conception of the size
    of the rest of the world. They clearly also have no idea of the poverty
    that dominates most of the planet.

    And they evidently have zero concern about the deterioration which you
    can already see in cities across America.

    But others � including many of our politicians � know all of this. They
    know that this country cannot absorb all the world�s poor.

    Yet they do not dare to say so. Instead they preen and pretend they we
    can. They promote ideas like �sanctuary cities.�

    They condemn those who would secure the southern border � including the
    border guards. They bemoan governors like those in Texas and Arizona who
    want to share the costs of open borders with the rest of the country.

    There could hardly be a better example of a �luxury belief.�

    Well here�s a much-needed reality check. One close to home.

    It has been estimated by the Federation for American Immigration Reform
    that illegal migrants will cost New York State just under $10 billion
    this year. Only California and Texas will be spending more. This
    includes $4.65 billion in education-related costs and $3.5 billion for
    health- and welfare-related costs.

    This city is currently spending about $8 million a day just to house the illegal migrants who have already come here. Mayor Adams already needs
    to spend two thirds more in homeless services than de Blasio did in his
    last year as Mayor and three times more than his predecessor did when he
    came into office.

    And look at what it will soon cost us.

    Last month we got the projections for New York�s financial future. The
    state�s Division of the Budget shows that the city expects to have a
    budget deficit of $9.1 billion in 2025 and a deficit of $13.9 billion in
    2026.

    In other words, by 2025 the deficit will be roughly what the state is
    currently having to pay annually just to cope with the illegal migrants
    who are already here.

    Which is itself a minute fraction of the numbers who are yet to come if
    the current border situation continues.

    Just one consequence is that people are being turfed out of homeless
    shelters to make way for the new arrivals. Which is one explanation for
    why there are so many more seriously mentally ill folks roaming the
    city�s streets these days.

    Yet it doesn�t have to be like this. Florida, hasn�t declared itself a sanctuary state. Its elected politicians don�t encourage illegal
    migrants to come there. And so southern governors do not deliberately
    bus arrivals there.

    In fact, Florida�s governor has famously bussed some of the illegal
    immigrants who have ended up there to other parts of the country. To
    places like Martha�s Vineyard, where the locals held onto their luxury
    beliefs for about 12 hours before bussing the arrivals out again.

    Maybe as a result of being careful with their laws and the money they
    raise in taxes, Florida is projected to have huge budget surpluses in
    the coming years. Indeed it is projected to have a surplus of $13.5
    billion in the next fiscal year and $15.5 billion in 2025-26.

    And that, right there, is the real cost of the �luxury beliefs� that so
    many people in positions of power in New York hold. They get to feel
    good about themselves. They get to present themselves as morally better
    than the rest of us. But in the end they run out of other peoples�
    money. Taxpayers� money. Our money.

    The �luxury beliefs� of a few � albeit a lot of people in power � do
    have a cost. They cost the rest of us. A lot.

    Unfair against Aldean
    Jason Aldean has been in the news this week. Critics have claimed that
    his song �Try That in a Small Town� is not just racist but
    �pro-lynching.�

    The explanation being that the song includes footage of the violence in
    2020 and a shot outside of a Tennessee courthouse where a lynching
    occurred nearly 100 years ago.

    I should have thought it unlikely that a prominent country music star
    actually meant to refer to a lynching. More likely is that he didn�t
    know that bit of history, and like plenty of other people simply used an attractive backdrop.

    But we do not live in generous times. Some activist types seem to view
    this whole country as a crime scene, and everyone in it as a criminal.
    How about having a more generous view?

    https://nypost.com/2023/07/20/elites-love-open-borders-because-lawless-im migration-doesnt-hit-them/

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Ian on Mon Oct 30 13:06:11 2023
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    Ian <[email protected]> wrote in news:ba5804394a76c46fb07546569964d903 @dizum.com:


    In fact, Florida�s governor has famously bussed some of the illegal immigrants who have ended up there to other parts of the country. To
    places like Martha�s Vineyard, where the locals held onto their luxury beliefs for about 12 hours before bussing the arrivals out again.


    Wrong.

    DeSantis flew - at Flordia taxpayer expense -
    migrants from TEXAS to Massachusetts. Then he flew
    migrants from TEXAS to California.

    Why are Florida taxpayers financing the immigrant
    problems in TEXAS?



    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/marthas-vineyard-migrants-flight-from-texas- 60-minutes/


    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4037722-florida-confirms-it-sent- migrants-to-california-amid-newsom-desantis-feud/

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 30 06:58:19 2023
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    [Default] Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> typed:

    Ian <[email protected]> wrote in news:ba5804394a76c46fb07546569964d903 >@dizum.com:


    In fact, Florida�s governor has famously bussed some of the illegal
    immigrants who have ended up there to other parts of the country. To
    places like Martha�s Vineyard, where the locals held onto their luxury
    beliefs for about 12 hours before bussing the arrivals out again.


    Wrong.

    DeSantis flew - at Flordia taxpayer expense -
    migrants from TEXAS to Massachusetts. Then he flew
    migrants from TEXAS to California.

    Why are Florida taxpayers financing the immigrant
    problems in TEXAS?

    They're happy to add to Massachusetts and California's pain. It's a
    great idea!

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 30 17:37:37 2023
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    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�[email protected]> wrote in news:kidvjih3618erllrn311r6anaemqa2hahi@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuckin g.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> typed:

    Ian <[email protected]> wrote in news:ba5804394a76c46fb07546569964d903 >>@dizum.com:


    In fact, Florida�s governor has famously bussed some of the illegal
    immigrants who have ended up there to other parts of the country. To
    places like Martha�s Vineyard, where the locals held onto their luxury
    beliefs for about 12 hours before bussing the arrivals out again.


    Wrong.

    DeSantis flew - at Flordia taxpayer expense -
    migrants from TEXAS to Massachusetts. Then he flew
    migrants from TEXAS to California.

    Why are Florida taxpayers financing the immigrant
    problems in TEXAS?

    They're happy to add to Massachusetts and California's pain. It's a
    great idea!


    "Sure I can't afford insurance
    and more and the state isn't fixing
    our streets but DeSantis is solving
    local problems in Texas and that is
    all that matters to us"

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 30 11:52:13 2023
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    [Default] Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> typed:

    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�[email protected]> wrote in >news:kidvjih3618erllrn311r6anaemqa2hahi@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuckin >g.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> typed:

    Ian <[email protected]> wrote in news:ba5804394a76c46fb07546569964d903 >>>@dizum.com:


    In fact, Florida�s governor has famously bussed some of the illegal
    immigrants who have ended up there to other parts of the country. To
    places like Martha�s Vineyard, where the locals held onto their luxury >>>> beliefs for about 12 hours before bussing the arrivals out again.


    Wrong.

    DeSantis flew - at Flordia taxpayer expense -
    migrants from TEXAS to Massachusetts. Then he flew
    migrants from TEXAS to California.

    Why are Florida taxpayers financing the immigrant
    problems in TEXAS?

    They're happy to add to Massachusetts and California's pain. It's a
    great idea!


    "Sure I can't afford insurance

    Tax money doesn't pay for insurance.

    Try again, Mitch.

    ANd enjoy your "undocumented immigrants"

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 01:34:11 2023
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    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�[email protected]> wrote
    in
    news:ppuvji5445fn7vsm0085fcc2ba4si77q9i@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuck ing.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> typed:

    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�[email protected]>
    wrote in >>news:kidvjih3618erllrn311r6anaemqa2hahi@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksu >>ckin g.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> typed:

    Ian <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:ba5804394a76c46fb07546569964d903 @dizum.com:


    In fact, Florida�s governor has famously bussed some of the
    illegal immigrants who have ended up there to other parts of the
    country. To places like Martha�s Vineyard, where the locals held
    onto their luxury beliefs for about 12 hours before bussing the
    arrivals out again.


    Wrong.

    DeSantis flew - at Flordia taxpayer expense -
    migrants from TEXAS to Massachusetts. Then he flew
    migrants from TEXAS to California.

    Why are Florida taxpayers financing the immigrant
    problems in TEXAS?

    They're happy to add to Massachusetts and California's pain. It's a
    great idea!


    "Sure I can't afford insurance

    Tax money doesn't pay for insurance.


    Tell that to the Flordia homeowners
    whose policies have been cancelled.

    Can we count on a DeSantis "tough
    shit, not my problem, please donate to
    my campaign" press conference?

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 04:32:43 2023
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    [Default] Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> typed:

    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�[email protected]> wrote
    in
    news:ppuvji5445fn7vsm0085fcc2ba4si77q9i@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuck >ing.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> typed:

    Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�[email protected]>
    wrote in >>>news:kidvjih3618erllrn311r6anaemqa2hahi@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksu >>>ckin g.dwarf.com:

    [Default] Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> typed:

    Ian <[email protected]> wrote in >>>>>news:ba5804394a76c46fb07546569964d903 @dizum.com:


    In fact, Florida�s governor has famously bussed some of the
    illegal immigrants who have ended up there to other parts of the
    country. To places like Martha�s Vineyard, where the locals held
    onto their luxury beliefs for about 12 hours before bussing the
    arrivals out again.


    Wrong.

    DeSantis flew - at Flordia taxpayer expense -
    migrants from TEXAS to Massachusetts. Then he flew
    migrants from TEXAS to California.

    Why are Florida taxpayers financing the immigrant
    problems in TEXAS?

    They're happy to add to Massachusetts and California's pain. It's a
    great idea!


    "Sure I can't afford insurance

    Tax money doesn't pay for insurance.


    Tell that to the Flordia homeowners
    whose policies have been cancelled.

    They're STILL enjoying California and Massachusetts "new" immigrant
    woes.

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