On Thursday 26 September 2024 22:11:20 BST Dale wrote:

root@Gentoo-1 / # telnet smtp.gmail.com 587
Trying 142.251.116.108...
Trying 2607:f8b0:4023:1000::6c...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Network is unreachable root@Gentoo-1 / #

Can't connect. Well, that explains a lot. It can't reach anything to
log into. It looks like it is trying both IPv4 and v6. So, I used
ping. It works there.

STOP RIGHT THERE!

You may not have a mail application configuration problem after all (ssmtp/ msmtp), but you definitely have a network/server connectivity problem. You need to sort out the network connection first, before you look at your smtp client configuration.

root@Gentoo-1 / # ping smtp.gmail.com
PING smtp.gmail.com (142.250.115.108) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from rq-in-f108.1e100.net (142.250.115.108): icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=32.1 ms
64 bytes from rq-in-f108.1e100.net (142.250.115.108): icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=45.0 ms
64 bytes from rq-in-f108.1e100.net (142.250.115.108): icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=39.3 ms
^C
--- smtp.gmail.com ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 1998ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 32.062/38.776/45.017/5.299 ms
root@Gentoo-1 / # ping 142.251.116.108
PING 142.251.116.108 (142.251.116.108) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 142.251.116.108: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=30.4 ms
64 bytes from 142.251.116.108: icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=56.0 ms
64 bytes from 142.251.116.108: icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=30.6 ms
^C
--- 142.251.116.108 ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2000ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 30.351/38.988/56.049/12.063 ms
root@Gentoo-1 / #

So you can access the server, but not connect to the port.

Can you connect to ports 25, or 465?

Can you connect to 'smtp-relay.gmail.com' instead?

If you cannot see an open port, then either your network is misconfigured, or you've annoyed Google enough to block your access to their smtp service.

What silly boo boo did I make this time????

I am connected through a VPN but Seamonkey works fine. I can check and
send email there,

Ah! I have found Google logs your IP address and when this changes they may choose to block your connection to their service. Often it sends you a
message in your backup email address/phone asking you to confirm if the device and new IP address you are trying to connect from is you and yours.

Throwing a VPN in the works may trigger the above security (re)action, when your client is using an 'App Password' token, as opposed to the full OAUTH2 exchange.

That is true but why buy one if you can't run it? LOL This is yet
another reason I want to switch from Gmail. They nothing but nosy
anyway. I think it is common knowledge that they scan all emails and
use the info for various things, including ads, which I block by the way.

Google's modus operandi is arguably predicated on recording your data, your location, your movements, your purchases, your contacts, your written/spoken word, your interests, your thoughts, etc. Selling advertisements is a monetisation mechanism to facilitate the high cost of their operation. They are not unique in this endeavor, other Big-Tech quasi-monopolies are
performing the same role. The offer of 'free' internet services is the honeypot used to attract footfall.

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On Friday 27 September 2024 13:11:46 BST Dale wrote:

Michael wrote:

You may not have a mail application configuration problem after all
(ssmtp/
msmtp), but you definitely have a network/server connectivity problem.
You
need to sort out the network connection first, before you look at your
smtp
client configuration.

That's my thinking but everything else works fine. Seamonkey email
works just fine.

Is your telnet, ssmtp, msmtp routing going through the same VPN as your Seamonkey?

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On Friday 27 September 2024 17:28:13 BST Dale wrote:

Grant Edwards wrote:

On 2024-09-27, Dale <[email protected]> wrote:

You do know about the msmtp man page, right?

Well, if copying someone's known working config file doesn't work right, >> I'm not sure a man page is going to help much.

The working configuration I provided didn't have an alias (or aliases) command in it.

You mentioned I needed to add that so I did. I think that also helped,
once we got the spelling right.

That said, I changed the alias line and then got a error about the
account info.

What error?

The error said 'default' was already set. I'm not sure where it was set
but that's what it said. I commented out the line that I pasted in the config file and then things got better.

I commented it out too.

What was "it"?

I think that was the default account info.

When I did that, I got this with your test command.

[...]

Now things may be working better. So, I restarted smartd and guess
what, I got emails from smart about my hard drives. I have nine hard
drives. I got a email for each one. Can I get a YEPPIE!!!!

Great!

It is great. Also, reset everything else security wise including main password. It needed doing anyway. I should be safe again.

Thanks so much.

Dale

:-) :-)

Good result, although I am confused how you were not able to connect with telnet to the gmail server one moment, but were able to connect thereafter
with msmtp. :-/
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