On Saturday, 3 August 2024 06:55:53 BST Dale wrote:

Waldo Lemmer wrote:

Chrome violates the HTML5 spec in many ways, and many web developers
only test their sites in Chrome, so some sites occasionally break in Firefox. The situation has improved a lot over the years, though.

Firefox has a channel through which broken sites can be reported: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/report-breakage-due-blocking

I'm looked into that link. I put my mouse pointer over the thing they
say to check and it shows nothing is detected or blocked. So, I guess
that isn't the problem. This could be a Ebay problem. The way it is supposed to work is when I put in and/or select the items needed, it is supposed to change the button to be clickable. It fails to do that.
Thing is, it could also be Firefox. Firefox works on every website I go
to. I can't recall the last time a site didn't work so I'm kinda
leaning to it being a Ebay problem but I could be wrong. I wasn't
surprised when Seamonkey didn't work. Heck, most sites don't work right
with it anymore. I just know something is wrong since Chrome worked.
Thing is, I don't trust Chrome for much. Even tho I use Gmail, I don't
trust Google much at all either. I use encrypted email for some
things. Keeps their nose out of my business. LOL

I have used firefox, (librewolf to be more precise) to buy stuff off ebay, leave feedback, etc. and do not recall problems with any buttons.

HOWEVER: I do not run Addons (other than Ublock Origin) and for these type of transactions I make sure session cookies are accepted.

I really need to switch to a better email provider. Thing is, I'd like
to set it up so that I have a email program that fetches my emails and
then I just connect locally to read them. After all, Seamonkey stopped fetching emails automatically long ago. Plus, once setup, I could stop
using Seamonkey. Seamonkey needs some serious work. Sad tho, I like
it in a lot of ways.

Since you're using Firefox as your browser, have you tried Thunderbird as a desktop mail client? I understand it shares code with Seamonkey, by I don't know what their differences might be.

I may look into other email sites again. I need a really good guide to
get it to work like I need tho. I don't know where to even start.

Dale

:-) :-)

There is Seamonkey documentation, but there are loads of how to's for Mozilla products. If Seamonkey is mostly the same as Firefox/Thunderbird, you can
take look at the Thunderbird resources to find out how to set up Seamonkey to behave as you want it.

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Am Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 12:15:55PM -0500 schrieb Dale:

:-) :-)

There is Seamonkey documentation, but there are loads of how to's for Mozilla
products. If Seamonkey is mostly the same as Firefox/Thunderbird, you can take look at the Thunderbird resources to find out how to set up Seamonkey to
behave as you want it.

Well, what I'd like to do, install a email program that fetches the
emails and then stores them on my system.  Then I can have Thunderbird
or any other email program connect to that and view, create, send or
whatever emails.

So you want an IMAP server, then?

Thing is, setting up the first program is complicated.

Indee-diddly-doo.
What I do: sync mail from my main IMAP account to a local maildir structure using offlineimap. Then I can access it with mutt or any other program that speaks maildir, read it, move it around, delete it. Those actions are
applied to the server by offlineimap as well. I use mutt for that most of
the time.

I also use KMail as graphical mail client, but that is completely separate from the offlineimap-mutt setup and it uses its own offline cache.

Sending mail away is set up individually in each client (mutt/kmail) and
they talk to my provider’s SMTP directly.

This setup has limited flexibility in that you need to sync manually. A
local imap server would allow for many clients to talk to it at the same
time in real-time. But I don’t see this as a requirement for you since you only have one client, basically.

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On 03/08/2024 18:15, Dale wrote:

Well, what I'd like to do, install a email program that fetches the
emails and then stores them on my system.  Then I can have Thunderbird
or any other email program connect to that and view, create, send or
whatever emails.  Thing is, setting up the first program is
complicated.  It is a bit over my head.  From what I've read, it is
pretty picky too.  It has to be fairly perfect or things don't work.
I'd need a seriously good how to to even get started. It could turn into another long thread like that goofy monitor.  :/

That's basically fetchmail. Although I gather that's now
abandonware-ish. There is a successor iirc, but I stopped using it
because it broke...

If you can then get that into Dovecot ...

My current setup is I have dovecot set up, then whenever I connect (with thunderbird) I have bulk rules that just move everything across from the internet into dovecot.

Cheers,
Wol

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On 4/8/24 16:11, Wols Lists wrote:

On 03/08/2024 18:15, Dale wrote:

Well, what I'd like to do, install a email program that fetches the
emails and then stores them on my system.  Then I can have
Thunderbird or any other email program connect to that and view,
create, send or whatever emails. Thing is, setting up the first
program is complicated.  It is a bit over my head.  From what I've
read, it is pretty picky too. It has to be fairly perfect or things
don't work.  I'd need a seriously good how to to even get started. It
could turn into another long thread like that goofy monitor.  :/

That's basically fetchmail. Although I gather that's now
abandonware-ish. There is a successor iirc, but I stopped using it
because it broke...

Fetchmail isnt abandoned - they fixed it (though somewhat slowley) for
the last openssl shmozzle update and it was working fine last I use it.

Getmail (from v6.0) is probably the other main fetch app and other than
some weirdness around how idle is implemented (it waits for messages
then exits so you have to run it again) it works fine with standards
compliant providers (not always the case!) I am using it with 4 email
accounts shared between two people using postfix and courier-imap. 
Overkill but it was what I was using when working and other than
maintenance overhead it works fine in a gentoo VM.

BillK

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On 04/08/2024 10:54, Dale wrote:

I figure the first step, find a new email provider.  Then find out what software works best with it.  I so want to get away from gmail.

Step 1 - look for a nice domain (mine belongs to my brother).
Step 2 - look for a small(ish) Internet Services Provider which will
host your web server, email, etc etc for you.

That way you own your own domain, so you can change providers without
losing your email address - a biggy. That's usually more hassle than
it's worth, though.

And if they host that stuff for you, they should be standards-compliant
which makes your life easy.

Lastly, if you own your own domain, you can set up as many email addys
and website subdowmains as you like :-)

Cheers,
Wol

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