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  • [gentoo-user] How to disable the modules service?

    From Dex Conner@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 23 12:00:02 2022
    Hi all,

    I've went module-less and the rc service called modules is still running
    at startup even when I remove it with rc-update del modules boot. Is the
    only way to solve this to remove the loaded modules from the config
    files every time they are added?

    Thank you!

    --
    Dex

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  • From Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?B=F6hm?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 23 12:50:01 2022
    Hi Dex,

    we have a wiki article for this: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel_Modules#Going_completely_.22module-less.22

    Greetings,
    Peter

    Am Sonntag, 23. Oktober 2022, 11:56:00 CEST schrieb Dex Conner:
    Hi all,

    I've went module-less and the rc service called modules is still running
    at startup even when I remove it with rc-update del modules boot. Is the
    only way to solve this to remove the loaded modules from the config
    files every time they are added?

    Thank you!

    --
    Dex

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  • From Dex Conner@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 23 13:40:01 2022
    On 22/10/23 12:45PM, Peter B�hm wrote:
    Hi Dex,

    we have a wiki article for this: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel_Modules#Going_completely_.22module-less.22



    Hello Peter,

    Unfortunately I had already followed that guide for going module-less
    and the rc service called modules is still running. I have found that it
    is the /etc/init.d/modules file which sources some folders including /usr/lib/modules-load.d which has a module in it. I think this module (pkcs8_key_parser) gets created after I update iwd. Is there a way to
    actually remove the modules service instead of removing the modules from
    the directories repeatedly?

    Thank you

    --
    Dex

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to Dex Conner on Sun Oct 23 13:50:01 2022
    Dex Conner wrote:
    On 22/10/23 12:45PM, Peter B�hm wrote:
    Hi Dex,

    we have a wiki article for this:
    https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel_Modules#Going_completely_.22module-less.22


    Hello Peter,

    Unfortunately I had already followed that guide for going module-less
    and the rc service called modules is still running. I have found that it
    is the /etc/init.d/modules file which sources some folders including /usr/lib/modules-load.d which has a module in it. I think this module (pkcs8_key_parser) gets created after I update iwd. Is there a way to actually remove the modules service instead of removing the modules from
    the directories repeatedly?

    Thank you

    --
    Dex


    First, I don't know much about this.� I did read a bit of the article
    linked to tho.� Could there be a USE flag that will make it not install modules?� I recall seeing kmod mentioned for some packages.� It may not
    apply here and if it doesn't, ignore me.� It could be worth looking into
    what the USE flags add or remove, just to be sure.

    Hope that helps.

    Dale

    :-)� :-)�

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  • From Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?B=F6hm?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 23 17:10:02 2022
    Rainer,

    the handbook still recommends to build sound modules (and many many others) as module, because it is easier than doing a static configuration. Now, you can ask, why someone wants to build it static into the kernel. The answer is: Security !

    Maybe you know this wiki article: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Signed_kernel_module_support

    This is a pre-condition for enabling LOCKDOWN in the kernel ... OR ... you
    have NO modules support (=monolithic kernel) ! So, you have the choice which way you want to go.

    I am using a monolithic kernel also. Dont try to enable lockdown in your
    kernel if you use unsigned modules. ;-) I wrote a big warning in my wiki article:
    https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:Pietinger/Tutorials/ Kernel_Hardening_with_KSPP

    Regards,
    Peter

    Am Sonntag, 23. Oktober 2022, 16:19:49 CEST schrieb Dr Rainer Woitok:
    Peter,

    On Sunday, 2022-10-23 12:45:42 +0200, you wrote:
    ...
    we have a wiki article for this: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel_Modules#Going_completely_.22module-les s.22
    When I built my first Gentoo system in 2019, the Handbook instructed to build anything sound related as modules, if I remember correctly. Is
    this no longer true?

    Sincerely,
    Rainer

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  • From Dr Rainer Woitok@21:1/5 to you on Sun Oct 23 16:30:01 2022
    Peter,

    On Sunday, 2022-10-23 12:45:42 +0200, you wrote:

    ...
    we have a wiki article for this: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel_Modules#Going_completely_.22module-less.22

    When I built my first Gentoo system in 2019, the Handbook instructed to
    build anything sound related as modules, if I remember correctly. Is
    this no longer true?

    Sincerely,
    Rainer

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  • From Neil Bothwick@21:1/5 to Dex Conner on Sun Oct 23 17:40:02 2022
    On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 07:29:42 -0400, Dex Conner wrote:

    Unfortunately I had already followed that guide for going module-less
    and the rc service called modules is still running. I have found that it
    is the /etc/init.d/modules file which sources some folders including /usr/lib/modules-load.d which has a module in it. I think this module (pkcs8_key_parser) gets created after I update iwd. Is there a way to actually remove the modules service instead of removing the modules from
    the directories repeatedly?

    You could blacklist the module in /etc/modules.d, but will iwd still work without it?


    --
    Neil Bothwick

    Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity.

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  • From Dex Conner@21:1/5 to Neil Bothwick on Mon Oct 24 08:00:01 2022
    On 22/10/23 04:35PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
    On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 07:29:42 -0400, Dex Conner wrote:

    Unfortunately I had already followed that guide for going module-less
    and the rc service called modules is still running. I have found that it
    is the /etc/init.d/modules file which sources some folders including /usr/lib/modules-load.d which has a module in it. I think this module (pkcs8_key_parser) gets created after I update iwd. Is there a way to actually remove the modules service instead of removing the modules from the directories repeatedly?

    You could blacklist the module in /etc/modules.d, but will iwd still work without it?

    That seems like a good idea but since I don't have modprobe after
    setting -kmod, it throws an error. I think I should get some sort of
    hook working after each iwd update so that the file is automatically
    removed.

    Thank you everyone

    --
    Dex

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