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On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:40:53AM +0800, johnstrass wrote

Compiling gcc uses alot of memory, sometimes only less then 10MB
left free ( I am doing this on a small yeeloong netbook with only
1GB memory).

Ouch, I'm surprised it compiles at all. The Gentoo install handbook https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Full/Installation#MAKEOPTS
has a dire warning about memory usage...

Warning
Using a large number of jobs can significantly impact memory
consumption. A good recommendation is to have at least 2 GiB of RAM
for every job specified (so, e.g. -j6 requires at least 12 GiB). To
avoid running out of memory, lower the number of jobs to fit the
available memory.

You simply don't have enough ram. You might reduce the pain and the
swapping by trying something like the following in make.conf (assuming
you haven't already done it)

MAKEOPTS="-j1"

If this happens, what is the best way to reboot or shutdown?

Try ye olde {CTRL}{ALT}{DEL}

--
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frames, the first Browser Wars. Searching for pages with AltaVista,
pop-up windows self-replicating, trying to uninstall RealPlayer. All
those moments, will be lost in time like tears in rain... time to die.

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On 2022-09-17 17:37+0800 johnstrass <[email protected]> wrote:

At 2022-09-17 14:15:51, "Walter Dnes" <[email protected]> wrote:

On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:40:53AM +0800, johnstrass wrote

Compiling gcc uses alot of memory, sometimes only less then 10MB
left free ( I am doing this on a small yeeloong netbook with only
1GB memory).

Ouch, I'm surprised it compiles at all. The Gentoo install
handbook
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Full/Installation#MAKEOPTS
has a dire warning about memory usage...

Yep, I've got the gcc-12.2.0 natively compiled on this netbook using gcc-11.3.0, after 5+ days + a crash + 5more days.

I set up a large swap and I've also set up the ccache which may
speedup a little after the crash.

Warning
Using a large number of jobs can significantly impact memory
consumption. A good recommendation is to have at least 2 GiB of RAM
for every job specified (so, e.g. -j6 requires at least 12 GiB). To
avoid running out of memory, lower the number of jobs to fit the
available memory.

You simply don't have enough ram. You might reduce the pain and
the
swapping by trying something like the following in make.conf
(assuming you haven't already done it)

MAKEOPTS="-j1"

I will try next time. Thanks.

If this happens, what is the best way to reboot or shutdown?

Try ye olde {CTRL}{ALT}{DEL}

I remember that I did try "CTRL+ALT+DEL" in such situations before,
and most times it did not work but for one or two times it worked occasionally. I will try it again next time.

You could also use “Magic SysRQ”s[1] to reboot the system forcefully
but somewhat controlled. The traditional sequence is:
r e i s u b (raising elephants is so utterly boring)[2]

[1] <https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Magic_SysRQ>
[2] <https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/sysrq.html#what-are-the-command-keys>

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On Saturday, 17 September 2022 12:11:56 BST tastytea wrote:

On 2022-09-17 17:37+0800 johnstrass <[email protected]> wrote:

At 2022-09-17 14:15:51, "Walter Dnes" <[email protected]> wrote:

On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:40:53AM +0800, johnstrass wrote

Compiling gcc uses alot of memory, sometimes only less then 10MB
left free ( I am doing this on a small yeeloong netbook with only
1GB memory).

Ouch, I'm surprised it compiles at all. The Gentoo install

handbook

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Full/Installation#MAKEOPTS >has a dire warning about memory usage...

Yep, I've got the gcc-12.2.0 natively compiled on this netbook using gcc-11.3.0, after 5+ days + a crash + 5more days.

I set up a large swap and I've also set up the ccache which may
speedup a little after the crash.

Warning

Using a large number of jobs can significantly impact memory
consumption. A good recommendation is to have at least 2 GiB of RAM
for every job specified (so, e.g. -j6 requires at least 12 GiB). To
avoid running out of memory, lower the number of jobs to fit the
available memory.

You simply don't have enough ram. You might reduce the pain and

the

swapping by trying something like the following in make.conf
(assuming you haven't already done it)

MAKEOPTS="-j1"

I will try next time. Thanks.

If this happens, what is the best way to reboot or shutdown?

Try ye olde {CTRL}{ALT}{DEL}

I remember that I did try "CTRL+ALT+DEL" in such situations before,
and most times it did not work but for one or two times it worked occasionally. I will try it again next time.

You could also use “Magic SysRQ”s[1] to reboot the system forcefully
but somewhat controlled. The traditional sequence is:
r e i s u b (raising elephants is so utterly boring)[2]

[1] <https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Magic_SysRQ>
[2] <https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/sysrq.html#what-are-the -command-keys>

Using MAKEOPTS="-j1" will help and a bigger swap will stop it crashing with OOM, but a more sensible solution is to compile and build big packages like gcc on a faster PC as binaries, then transfer and emerge on the slow PC with --usepkg, or --usepkgonly options. More info:

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Binary_package_guide

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--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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Am Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 02:15:51AM -0400 schrieb Walter Dnes:

On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:40:53AM +0800, johnstrass wrote

Compiling gcc uses alot of memory, sometimes only less then 10MB
left free ( I am doing this on a small yeeloong netbook with only
1GB memory).

Ouch, I'm surprised it compiles at all. The Gentoo install handbook https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Full/Installation#MAKEOPTS
has a dire warning about memory usage...

[…]

You simply don't have enough ram. You might reduce the pain and the swapping by trying something like the following in make.conf (assuming
you haven't already done it)

MAKEOPTS="-j1"

You could also have a look at zram/zswap to compress your RAM content. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Zram
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Zswap

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