• Re: Seeking for help with Debian 11 (2022-03-28 image) - can't install

    From Ken Cunningham@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 13 07:30:02 2022
    One of the key things to know is that only certain very specific boot images will work. These have been hand-modified by Adrian to boot. Attempting to use any other random boot images will fail.

    If you look back through Adrian’s messages in this mailing list, he announces the latest boot image every three or four months.

    Once you have that, things usually go smoothly.

    Best,

    Ken


    On Oct 12, 2022, at 10:22 PM, vavagoga <[email protected]> wrote:


    An update about my problem with GRUB..

    After wiping up disk and PRAM reset I was able to install GRUB, but it doesn't boot... If I start G5 when pressing "option" button it then shows GNU icon as boot option, but it's not booting from there - when I click it screen refreshes and nothing
    happens...

    Are there any steps I could take to fix it somehow?..

    (BTW "Select and Install Software" didn't install properly this time either, but it was the closest to finish I ever got - it failed at 94% this time)

    Would appreciate any help,

    Thanks!


    On 2022-10-06 00:44, Ben Westover wrote:
    Hello,

    On October 5, 2022 5:37:35 PM EDT, vavagoga <[email protected]> wrote:
    Hey there!

    I've been advised by kaiser.friedrich on youtube to join this list for more detailed help with my problem..

    I am trying to install Debian on my old G5, but installation always fail during "Select and install software" and then also during GRUB installation.. Maybe I am missing something during installation? (It seems straightforward, but fails nevertheless)
    Can you provide any specific errors or logs?

    Thanks,
    --
    Ben Westover


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  • From vavagoga@21:1/5 to Ben Westover on Thu Oct 13 07:30:01 2022
    An update about my problem with GRUB..

    After wiping up disk and PRAM reset I was able to install GRUB, but it
    doesn't boot... If I start G5 when pressing "option" button it then
    shows GNU icon as boot option, but it's not booting from there - when I
    click it screen refreshes and nothing happens...

    Are there any steps I could take to fix it somehow?..

    (BTW "Select and Install Software" didn't install properly this time
    either, but it was the closest to finish I ever got - it failed at 94%
    this time)

    Would appreciate any help,

    Thanks!


    On 2022-10-06 00:44, Ben Westover wrote:
    Hello,

    On October 5, 2022 5:37:35 PM EDT, vavagoga <[email protected]> wrote:
    Hey there!

    I've been advised by kaiser.friedrich on youtube to join this list
    for more detailed help with my problem..

    I am trying to install Debian on my old G5, but installation always
    fail during "Select and install software" and then also during GRUB
    installation.. Maybe I am missing something during installation? (It
    seems straightforward, but fails nevertheless)
    Can you provide any specific errors or logs?

    Thanks,
    --
    Ben Westover

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  • From John Paul Adrian Glaubitz@21:1/5 to vavagoga on Thu Oct 13 08:20:01 2022
    Hi!

    On 10/13/22 07:22, vavagoga wrote:

    An update about my problem with GRUB..

    After wiping up disk and PRAM reset I was able to install GRUB, but it doesn't boot... If I start G5 when pressing "option" button it then shows
    GNU icon as boot option, but it's not booting from there - when I click
    it screen refreshes and nothing happens...

    Could you provide the installation log which can be found in /var/log/syslog during installation?

    Just switch to another virtual console and use scp to copy /var/log/syslog
    to another computer. Then compress it using gzip and send it to the mailing list.

    Thanks,
    Adrian

    --
    .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
    : :' : Debian Developer
    `. `' Physicist
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  • From John Paul Adrian Glaubitz@21:1/5 to vavagoga on Fri Oct 14 00:30:03 2022
    Hi!

    On 10/14/22 00:12, vavagoga wrote:
    Well, sorry for being ignorant, I am quite new to Linux...

    No worries.

    Could you direct me to some tutorial or something which would help me
    to understand how to "switch to another virtual console" to access syslog?

    When the installer is running, you can press <Alt> and <Arrow Left> or <Arrow Right>
    to switch between what is called "virtual terminals".

    When you get a to a console prompt, you can copy the "syslog" file with:

    # scp /var/log/syslog joe@foo:

    which copies the file "syslog" to the computer "foo" into the home directory of the
    user "joe".

    I have tried following: I disconnected my SSD off my G5 and then connected it to a
    Linux laptop as USB drive, but /var/log folder doesn't contain syslog file.. it says
    it is in journal dir, but I don't see it there either.. So honestly I don't know how
    to access that syslog file..

    The installer log is found in "/var/log/syslog" during installation. However, when the
    installation has finished, the log files can be found in the directory "/var/log/installer".

    If you have access to this directory, just compress the directory and sent it to the list.

    # tar czf install-log.tar.gz /var/log/installer

    Adrian

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    : :' : Debian Developer
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  • From vavagoga@21:1/5 to John Paul Adrian Glaubitz on Fri Oct 14 00:20:01 2022
    Hey, Adrian, thanks for your reply!

    Well, sorry for being ignorant, I am quite new to Linux... Could you
    direct me to some tutorial or something which would help me to
    understand how to "switch to another virtual console" to access syslog?

    I have tried following: I disconnected my SSD off my G5 and then
    connected it to a Linux laptop as USB drive, but /var/log folder doesn't contain syslog file.. it says it is in journal dir, but I don't see it
    there either.. So honestly I don't know how to access that syslog file..

    Sorry again..

    cheers,

    jG

    On 2022-10-13 09:14, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
    Hi!

    On 10/13/22 07:22, vavagoga wrote:

    An update about my problem with GRUB..

    After wiping up disk and PRAM reset I was able to install GRUB, but it
    doesn't boot... If I start G5 when pressing "option" button it then
    shows
    GNU icon as boot option, but it's not booting from there - when I click
    it screen refreshes and nothing happens...

    Could you provide the installation log which can be found in
    /var/log/syslog
    during installation?

    Just switch to another virtual console and use scp to copy
    /var/log/syslog
    to another computer. Then compress it using gzip and send it to the
    mailing
    list.

    Thanks,
    Adrian


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  • From Ben Westover@21:1/5 to vavagoga on Fri Oct 14 01:30:01 2022
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    On 10/13/22 7:19 PM, vavagoga wrote:
    Oh yeah, I have found it in /var/log/installer, thanks for the tip!

    But, when I try to compress it - it says: permission denied.. hmm.. why
    is that? Is ther any work around for that?

    You don't have permission to write to that directory. Tell tar to output somewhere else, like your home directory, with -C.

    --
    Ben Westover

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  • From vavagoga@21:1/5 to John Paul Adrian Glaubitz on Fri Oct 14 01:30:01 2022
    Oh yeah, I have found it in /var/log/installer, thanks for the tip!

    But, when I try to compress it - it says: permission denied.. hmm.. why
    is that? Is ther any work around for that?

    On 2022-10-14 01:23, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
    The installer log is found in "/var/log/syslog" during installation.
    However, when the
    installation has finished, the log files can be found in the directory "/var/log/installer".

    If you have access to this directory, just compress the directory and
    sent it to the list.

    # tar czf install-log.tar.gz /var/log/installer

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  • From vavagoga@21:1/5 to Ben Westover on Fri Oct 14 02:20:01 2022
    Thanks for the suggestion! But... hmm... well.. I  tried to output it to
    my home dir and also tried copying the whole install directory to the
    desktop and also my home directory, but it keeps on saying I don't have permission... So my guess is it looks like I don't actually have read permission to do anything with that "install" directory..

    On 2022-10-14 02:22, Ben Westover wrote:
    On 10/13/22 7:19 PM, vavagoga wrote:
    Oh yeah, I have found it in /var/log/installer, thanks for the tip!

    But, when I try to compress it - it says: permission denied.. hmm.. why
    is that? Is ther any work around for that?
    You don't have permission to write to that directory. Tell tar to output somewhere else, like your home directory, with -C.

    --
    Ben Westover

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  • From Ben Westover@21:1/5 to vavagoga on Fri Oct 14 02:50:02 2022
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    On 10/13/22 8:12 PM, vavagoga wrote:
    Thanks for the suggestion! But... hmm... well.. I  tried to output it to
    my home dir and also tried copying the whole install directory to the
    desktop and also my home directory, but it keeps on saying I don't have permission... So my guess is it looks like I don't actually have read permission to do anything with that "install" directory..

    Use sudo/root

    --
    Ben Westover

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  • From Goga Vava@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Oct 14 16:30:01 2022
    Hello there,
    Did my last mail with attached gzip file reach the mailing list? (I've
    managed to archive it, thanks everyone for suggestions!)
    Asking because it is 4.2MB big archive, and I am not sure if it actually
    was sent, because it is still standing in my Outbox.. but it's also listed among "Sent" mails... weird..
    Thank you!

    On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 8:32 AM vavagoga <[email protected]> wrote:

    Yeah, it worked, thank you!

    Here it is in attachment

    On 2022-10-14 03:48, Ben Westover wrote:
    On 10/13/22 8:12 PM, vavagoga wrote:
    Thanks for the suggestion! But... hmm... well.. I tried to output it to >> my home dir and also tried copying the whole install directory to the
    desktop and also my home directory, but it keeps on saying I don't have
    permission... So my guess is it looks like I don't actually have read
    permission to do anything with that "install" directory..
    Use sudo/root

    --
    Ben Westover

    <div dir="ltr">Hello there, <div>Did my last mail with attached gzip file reach the mailing list? (I&#39;ve managed to archive it, thanks everyone for suggestions!)</div><div>Asking because it is 4.2MB big archive, and I am not sure if it actually was
    sent, because it is still standing in my Outbox.. but it&#39;s also listed among &quot;Sent&quot; mails... weird..</div><div>Thank you!</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 8:32 AM vavagoga &lt;
    <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Yeah, it worked, thank you!<br>

    Here it is in attachment<br>

    On 2022-10-14 03:48, Ben Westover wrote:<br>
    &gt; On 10/13/22 8:12 PM, vavagoga wrote:<br>
    &gt;&gt; Thanks for the suggestion! But... hmm... well.. I  tried to output it to<br>
    &gt;&gt; my home dir and also tried copying the whole install directory to the<br>
    &gt;&gt; desktop and also my home directory, but it keeps on saying I don&#39;t have<br>
    &gt;&gt; permission... So my guess is it looks like I don&#39;t actually have read<br>
    &gt;&gt; permission to do anything with that &quot;install&quot; directory..<br>
    &gt; Use sudo/root<br>
    &gt;<br>
    &gt; --<br>
    &gt; Ben Westover</blockquote></div>

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  • From vavagoga@21:1/5 to Goga Vava on Sun Oct 16 20:40:01 2022
    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    What is the size limit for attached files on this list?

    It seems my mail with attached log file archive is not coming through:(
    It's 4.2MB big

    Here is a dropbox link for it:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/hi01grmov78boaf/install-log.tar.gz?dl=0

    Hope it will work!

    Thanks!


    On 2022-10-15 19:31, Goga Vava wrote:
    Here's resending log archive once again.. I believe last time upload
    did fail..
    Thanks!

    On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:48 AM Ben Westover <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 10/13/22 8:12 PM, vavagoga wrote:
    > Thanks for the suggestion! But... hmm... well.. I  tried to
    output it to
    > my home dir and also tried copying the whole install directory
    to the
    > desktop and also my home directory, but it keeps on saying I
    don't have
    > permission... So my guess is it looks like I don't actually have
    read
    > permission to do anything with that "install" directory..

    Use sudo/root

    --
    Ben Westover

    <html>
    <head>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
    </head>
    <body>
    <p>What is the size limit for attached files on this list? <br>
    </p>
    <p>It seems my mail with attached log file archive is not coming
    through:( It's 4.2MB big</p>
    <p>Here is a dropbox link for it:</p>
    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/hi01grmov78boaf/install-log.tar.gz?dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/hi01grmov78boaf/install-log.tar.gz?dl=0</a></p>
    <p>Hope it will work!</p>
    <p>Thanks!<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2022-10-15 19:31, Goga Vava wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:CABb3NEVxO7i4-jckF4C7wkb476TU8u_Vr0Xb4Vj_8k=[email protected]">
    <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
    <div dir="ltr">Here's resending log archive once again.. I believe
    last time upload did fail..
    <div>Thanks!</div>
    </div>
    <br>
    <div class="gmail_quote">
    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:48
    AM Ben Westover &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]"
    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email protected]</a>&gt;
    wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
    0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On
    10/13/22 8:12 PM, vavagoga wrote:<br>
    &gt; Thanks for the suggestion! But... hmm... well.. I  tried
    to output it to<br>
    &gt; my home dir and also tried copying the whole install
    directory to the<br>
    &gt; desktop and also my home directory, but it keeps on
    saying I don't have<br>
    &gt; permission... So my guess is it looks like I don't
    actually have read<br>
    &gt; permission to do anything with that "install" directory..<br>
    <br>
    Use sudo/root<br>
    <br>
    --<br>
    Ben Westover<br>
    </blockquote>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
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