• libre firmware and Raptor Computing devices?

    From Paul Wise@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 24 03:10:01 2022
    Hi all,

    On the open firmware Debian wiki page, I note that Raptor Computing
    ppc64el devices have libre Ethernet firmware but that this firmware is
    not yet available in Debian. I read elsewhere that Raptor devices also
    have a libre boot firmware and BMC firmware but I haven't yet found the firmware projects that are useful for that.

    https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware/Open#Network

    Is there anyone on this list using Raptor Computing devices?

    How are you using the network on these devices?

    Have you considered packaging all the Raptor firmware for Debian?

    Can you update the wiki page linking to other Raptor firmware projects?

    --
    bye,
    pabs

    https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

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  • From Karl@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 24 03:20:01 2022
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    Hello,

    on this wiki is everything written

    https://wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/Main_Page

    Project Ortega is the libre firmware for the BCM5719. Update through fwupd

    https://forums.raptorcs.com/index.php/topic,305.msg2313.html

    Am 24.08.2022 um 03:01 schrieb Paul Wise <[email protected]>:

    Hi all,

    On the open firmware Debian wiki page, I note that Raptor Computing
    ppc64el devices have libre Ethernet firmware but that this firmware is
    not yet available in Debian. I read elsewhere that Raptor devices also
    have a libre boot firmware and BMC firmware but I haven't yet found the firmware projects that are useful for that.

    https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware/Open#Network

    Is there anyone on this list using Raptor Computing devices?

    How are you using the network on these devices?

    Have you considered packaging all the Raptor firmware for Debian?

    Can you update the wiki page linking to other Raptor firmware projects?

    --
    bye,
    pabs

    https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

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    <html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">Hello,</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">on this wiki is everything written</div><div dir="ltr"><br></
    <div dir="ltr"><a href="https://wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/Main_Page">https://wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/Main_Page</a></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Project Ortega is the libre firmware for the BCM5719. Update through fwupd</div><div dir="ltr">
    <br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://forums.raptorcs.com/index.php/topic,305.msg2313.html#msg2313">https://forums.raptorcs.com/index.php/topic,305.msg2313.html</a></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">Am 24.08.2022 um 03:01 schrieb Paul
    Wise &lt;[email protected]&gt;:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>Hi all,</span><br><span></span><br><span>On the open firmware Debian wiki page, I note that Raptor Computing</span><br><span>ppc64el devices have
    libre Ethernet firmware but that this firmware is</span><br><span>not yet available in Debian. I read elsewhere that Raptor devices also</span><br><span>have a libre boot firmware and BMC firmware but I haven't yet found the</span><br><span>firmware
    projects that are useful for that.</span><br><span></span><br><span>https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware/Open#Network</span><br><span></span><br><span>Is there anyone on this list using Raptor Computing devices?</span><br><span></span><br><span>How are you
    using the network on these devices?</span><br><span></span><br><span>Have you considered packaging all the Raptor firmware for Debian?</span><br><span></span><br><span>Can you update the wiki page linking to other Raptor firmware projects?</span><br><
    span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span>bye,</span><br><span>pabs</span><br><span></span><br><span>https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise</span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>
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  • From Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton@21:1/5 to Paul Wise on Wed Aug 24 03:40:01 2022
    On Wednesday, August 24, 2022, Paul Wise <[email protected]> wrote:
    Hi all,

    On the open firmware Debian wiki page, I note that Raptor Computing
    ppc64el devices have libre Ethernet firmware but that this firmware is
    not yet available in Debian. I read elsewhere that Raptor devices also
    have a libre boot firmware and BMC firmware but I haven't yet found the firmware projects that are useful for that.

    there's a replacement BMC card ca!led the Arctic Tern
    with dual ECP5 FPGAs that is capable of running LPC
    boot. in theory its RGMII GbE could be made available
    to the Power9 OS but PCIe on ECP5 using entirely libre
    FPGA HDL and tools (nextpnr-ecp5) has to be completed
    first.

    the AST2600 has some bullshit library managing GPIO,
    and ASpeed refuse to provide the source. probably
    because of the plaintext silicon-hardcoded serial
    console admin password.

    l.


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    <br><br>On Wednesday, August 24, 2022, Paul Wise &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; Hi all,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On the open firmware Debian wiki page, I note that Raptor Computing<br>&gt; ppc64el devices have libre
    Ethernet firmware but that this firmware is<br>&gt; not yet available in Debian. I read elsewhere that Raptor devices also<br>&gt; have a libre boot firmware and BMC firmware but I haven&#39;t yet found the<br>&gt; firmware projects that are useful for
    that.<br><br>there&#39;s a replacement BMC card ca!led the Arctic Tern<br>with dual ECP5 FPGAs that is capable of running LPC<br>boot. in theory its RGMII GbE could be made available<br>to the Power9 OS but PCIe on ECP5 using entirely libre<br>FPGA HDL
    and tools (nextpnr-ecp5) has to be completed<br>first.<br><br>the AST2600 has some bullshit library managing GPIO,<br>and ASpeed refuse to provide the source. probably<br>because o
  • From Paul Wise@21:1/5 to Karl on Wed Aug 24 13:20:01 2022
    On Wed, 2022-08-24 at 03:15 +0200, Karl wrote:

    Project Ortega is the libre firmware for the BCM5719. Update through fwupd

    Personally I very much dislike fwupd/LVFS as a place to distribute
    firmware from, since it is designed for proprietary vendor firmware.

    It doesn't have build logs, doesn't distribute source alongside
    binaries (but allows links instead), doesn't have reproducible builds,
    doesn't require libre build tools for libre firmware.

    I think libre firmware should be in Debian just like libre software.

    --
    bye,
    pabs

    https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

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  • From Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Aug 24 14:30:02 2022
    On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 12:10 PM Paul Wise <[email protected]> wrote:

    Project Ortega is the libre firmware for the BCM5719. Update through fwupd

    Personally I very much dislike fwupd/LVFS as a place to distribute
    firmware from, since it is designed for proprietary vendor firmware.

    and critically relies on an internet connection.

    I think libre firmware should be in Debian just like libre software.

    the whole purpose of debian is that files are GPG-signed with a trusted
    chain. once a debian distro is downloaded and verified you even
    *no longer require internet*.

    some random s*** off the internet (npm, cargo, fwupd, pip3) is
    dangerous, non-reproduceable and fragile.

    l.

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