Hi!

Here are the first test images where the installation of GRUB on PowerMacs should finally work properly [1]. It took me quite some time and effort with lots of testing to get the implementation right.

During the partitioning phase, the installer will pop up an empty question dialog. Just answer that dialog with "<NO>" to continue. After that, the installation should complete normally.

The installer now also correctly installs a boot script with an icon that should show up in the OpenFirmware boot menu that can be invoked with the <Option> key after the machine has been powered on.

Let me know how the image works for you, then I can commit the changes for
the grub-installer package to git when we know it works for most people for
the time being.

If it doesn't work, remember I need the installation log located in /var/log
as the file "syslog".

Thanks,
Adrian

[1] https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2021-04-14/

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Hi Adrian,

this is very great. Thank you very much!

On 14 Apr 2021, at 22:43, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

Let me know how the image works for you, then I can commit the changes for the grub-installer package to git when we know it works for most people for the time being.

Is this meant to work for 32bit only or for ppc64 as well?

Thanks
Johannes

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On Apr 14, 2021, at 11:42 PM, Johannes Brakensiek <[email protected]> wrote:

this is very great. Thank you very much!

On 14 Apr 2021, at 22:43, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

Let me know how the image works for you, then I can commit the changes for >> the grub-installer package to git when we know it works for most people for >> the time being.

Is this meant to work for 32bit only or for ppc64 as well?

Both, of course. The limitation to 32-bit applied to implementation and testing phase only.

I have not tested yet on ppc64, but it *should* work.

Adrian

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Hi!

On 4/14/21 10:43 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

Let me know how the image works for you, then I can commit the changes for the grub-installer package to git when we know it works for most people for the time being.

Since I didn't get any feedback but today's image worked for me without any problems (except for the known issue with the empty question dialog), I just committed the changes to grub-installer to git [1].

Thanks,
Adrian

[1] https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/grub-installer/-/commit/a234f349ef13ddf3d756c4418716f2e6adeba3dc

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That is great news Adrian, thank you for your work!

Regards,
Jeroen

John Paul Adrian Glaubitz schreef op 2021-04-15 08:56:

Hi!

On 4/14/21 10:43 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

Let me know how the image works for you, then I can commit the changes
for
the grub-installer package to git when we know it works for most
people for
the time being.

Since I didn't get any feedback but today's image worked for me without
any
problems (except for the known issue with the empty question dialog), I
just
committed the changes to grub-installer to git [1].

Thanks,
Adrian

[1]
https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/grub-installer/-/commit/a234f349ef13ddf3d756c4418716f2e6adeba3dc

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Hello,

I installed this new version in AQEMU. Now, the installation works well
until the end. But after the first reboot, Debian doesn't start : https://cryptpad.fr/file/#/2/file/jSGurNmToWjl+NXFOqSPkCcw/


Le 14/04/2021 à 22:43, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :

Hi!

Here are the first test images where the installation of GRUB on PowerMacs should finally work properly [1]. It took me quite some time and effort with lots of testing to get the implementation right.

During the partitioning phase, the installer will pop up an empty question dialog. Just answer that dialog with "<NO>" to continue. After that, the installation should complete normally.

The installer now also correctly installs a boot script with an icon that should show up in the OpenFirmware boot menu that can be invoked with the <Option> key after the machine has been powered on.

Let me know how the image works for you, then I can commit the changes for the grub-installer package to git when we know it works for most people for the time being.

If it doesn't work, remember I need the installation log located in /var/log as the file "syslog".

Thanks,
Adrian

[1] https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2021-04-14/

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<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I installed this new version in AQEMU. Now, the installation
works well until the end. But after the first reboot, Debian
doesn't start :
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://cryptpad.fr/file/#/2/file/jSGurNmToWjl+NXFOqSPkCcw/">https://cryptpad.fr/file/#/2/file/jSGurNmToWjl+NXFOqSPkCcw/</a><br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 14/04/2021 à 22:43, John Paul Adrian
Glaubitz a écrit :<br>
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cite="mid:[email protected]">
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Hi!

Here are the first test images where the installation of GRUB on PowerMacs should finally work properly [1]. It took me quite some time and effort with lots of testing to get the implementation right.

During the partitioning phase, the installer will pop up an empty question dialog. Just answer that dialog with "&lt;NO&gt;" to continue. After that, the installation should complete normally.

The installer now also correctly installs a boot script with an icon that should show up in the OpenFirmware boot menu that can be invoked with the &lt;Option&gt; key after the machine has been powered on.

Let me know how the image works for you, then I can commit the changes for
the grub-installer package to git when we know it works for most people for
the time being.

If it doesn't work, remember I need the installation log located in /var/log
as the file "syslog".

Thanks,
Adrian

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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2021-04-14/">https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2021-04-14/</a>
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</blockquote>
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">
</pre>
</blockquote>
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On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:14 PM, David VANTYGHEM <[email protected]> wrote:

I installed this new version in AQEMU. Now, the installation works well until the end. But after the first reboot, Debian doesn't start : https://cryptpad.fr/file/#/2/file/jSGurNmToWjl+NXFOqSPkCcw/

That’s because your emulator doesn’t support NVRAM emulation. You have to boot from harddisk manually.

Adrian
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wrote:<br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><br>
<p>I installed this new version in AQEMU. Now, the installation
works well until the end. But after the first reboot, Debian
doesn't start :
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://cryptpad.fr/file/#/2/file/jSGurNmToWjl+NXFOqSPkCcw/">https://cryptpad.fr/file/#/2/file/jSGurNmToWjl+NXFOqSPkCcw/</a></p>
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</div></blockquote><div>That’s because your emulator doesn’t support NVRAM emulation. You have to boot from harddisk manually.</div><div><br></div><div>Adrian</div></body></html>
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On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:17 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <[email protected]> wrote:



On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:14 PM, David VANTYGHEM <[email protected]> wrote:

I installed this new version in AQEMU. Now, the installation works well until the end. But after the first reboot, Debian doesn't start : https://cryptpad.fr/file/#/2/file/jSGurNmToWjl+NXFOqSPkCcw/

That’s because your emulator doesn’t support NVRAM emulation. You have to boot from harddisk manually.

Try:

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berlin.de&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:14 PM,
David VANTYGHEM &lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote:<br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><br>
<p>I installed this new version in AQEMU. Now, the installation
works well until the end. But after the first reboot, Debian
doesn't start :
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://cryptpad.fr/file/#/2/file/jSGurNmToWjl+NXFOqSPkCcw/">https://cryptpad.fr/file/#/2/file/jSGurNmToWjl+NXFOqSPkCcw/</a></p>
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</div></blockquote><div>That’s because your emulator doesn’t support NVRAM emulation. You have to boot from harddisk manually.</div></div></blockquote><br><div>Try:</div><div><br></div><div>boot hd:2,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX</div></body></
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On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:17 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
<[email protected]> wrote:



On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:14 PM, David VANTYGHEM
<[email protected]> wrote:

I installed this new version in AQEMU. Now, the installation works
well until the end. But after the first reboot, Debian doesn't start
: https://cryptpad.fr/file/#/2/file/jSGurNmToWjl+NXFOqSPkCcw/

That’s because your emulator doesn’t support NVRAM emulation. You
have to boot from harddisk manually.

Try:

boot hd:2,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX

boot hd:2,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -> No valid state has been
set by load or init-program

boot hd:1,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -> No valid state has been
set by load or init-program

boot hd:0,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -> nothing happens and in
the AQEMU serial console, I've got this message : Not a bootable ELF image


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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 15/04/2021 à 17:20, John Paul Adrian
Glaubitz a écrit :<br>
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cite="mid:[email protected]">
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
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<blockquote type="cite">On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:17 PM, John Paul
Adrian Glaubitz <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
<br>
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charset=UTF-8">
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<blockquote type="cite">On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:14 PM, David
VANTYGHEM <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr"><br>
<p>I installed this new version in AQEMU. Now, the
installation works well until the end. But after the
first reboot, Debian doesn't start : <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://cryptpad.fr/file/#/2/file/jSGurNmToWjl+NXFOqSPkCcw/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://cryptpad.fr/file/#/2/file/jSGurNmToWjl+NXFOqSPkCcw/</a></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>That’s because your emulator doesn’t support NVRAM
emulation. You have to boot from harddisk manually.</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<div>Try:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>boot hd:2,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX</div>
</blockquote>
<p>boot hd:2,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -&gt; No valid
state has been set by load or init-program<br>
</p>
<p>boot hd:1,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -&gt; No valid
state has been set by load or init-program</p>
<p>boot hd:0,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -&gt; nothing
happens and in the AQEMU serial console, I've got this message :
Not a bootable ELF image</p>
<p><br>
</p>
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Le 15/04/2021 à 18:01, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :

On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:56 PM, David VANTYGHEM
<[email protected]> wrote:

Try:

boot hd:2,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX

boot hd:2,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -> No valid state has
been set by load or init-program

boot hd:1,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -> No valid state has
been set by load or init-program

boot hd:0,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -> nothing happens and
in the AQEMU serial console, I've got this message : Not a bootable
ELF image

How did you boot the installation ISO? The installed system should be
booted exactly the same way provided that you PowerMac emulation is
accurate.

Adrian

To install Debian, I boot from the installation ISO file, mounted on a
virtual CDROM : /usr/bin/qemu-system-ppc \

-monitor stdio \

-k fr \

-machine accel=tcg \

-m 512 \

-drive file="/home/david/Documents/Informatique/Documentation/Macintosh/debian-10.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso",media=cdrom
\

-drive
file="/home/david/Documents/Informatique/Documentation/Macintosh/Debian
+ LXDE sur iMac G3.vmdk",if=ide,media=disk \

-*boot once=d*,menu=on \

-net nic,macaddr=00:a2:6d:80:10:8f,model=rtl8139 \

-net user \

-net user,smb=/home/david/Bureau \

-rtc base=localtime \

-name "Debian + LXDE sur iMac G3" \

-M g3beige

Now, after the installation, I try to boot from the virtual disk :

/usr/bin/qemu-system-ppc \

-monitor stdio \

-k fr \

-machine accel=tcg \

-m 512 \

-drive file="/home/david/Documents/Informatique/Documentation/Macintosh/debian-10.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso",media=cdrom
\

-drive
file="/home/david/Documents/Informatique/Documentation/Macintosh/Debian
+ LXDE sur iMac G3.vmdk",if=ide,media=disk \

-*boot once=c*,menu=on \

-net nic,macaddr=00:a2:6d:80:10:8f,model=rtl8139 \

-net user \

-net user,smb=/home/david/Bureau \

-rtc base=localtime \

-name "Debian + LXDE sur iMac G3" \

-M g3beige

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Glaubitz a écrit :<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:[email protected]">
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
<blockquote type="cite">On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:56 PM, David
VANTYGHEM <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> wrote:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
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cite="mid:[email protected]">
<div>Try:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>boot hd:2,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX</div>
</blockquote>
<p>boot hd:2,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -&gt; No valid
state has been set by load or init-program

</p>
<p>boot hd:1,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -&gt; No valid
state has been set by load or init-program</p>
<p>boot hd:0,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -&gt; nothing
happens and in the AQEMU serial console, I've got this message :
Not a bootable ELF image</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>How did you boot the installation ISO? The installed system
should be booted exactly the same way provided that you PowerMac
emulation is accurate.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Adrian</div>
</blockquote>
<p>

<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">To install Debian, I boot from the installation ISO file, mounted on a virtual CDROM :

/usr/bin/qemu-system-ppc \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -monitor stdio \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -k fr \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -machine accel=tcg \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -m 512 \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -drive file="/home/david/Documents/Informatique/Documentation/Macintosh/debian-10.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso",media=cdrom \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -drive file="/home/david/Documents/Informatique/Documentation/Macintosh/Debian + LXDE sur iMac G3.vmdk",if=ide,media=disk \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -<b>boot once=d</b>,menu=on \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -net nic,macaddr=00:a2:6d:80:10:8f,model=rtl8139 \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -net user \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -net user,smb=/home/david/Bureau \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -rtc base=localtime \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -name "Debian + LXDE sur iMac G3" \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -M g3beige</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">

<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">Now, after the installation, I try to boot from the virtual disk :


<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">/usr/bin/qemu-system-ppc \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -monitor stdio \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -k fr \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -machine accel=tcg \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -m 512 \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -drive file="/home/david/Documents/Informatique/Documentation/Macintosh/debian-10.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso",media=cdrom \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -drive file="/home/david/Documents/Informatique/Documentation/Macintosh/Debian + LXDE sur iMac G3.vmdk",if=ide,media=disk \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -<b>boot once=c</b>,menu=on \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -net nic,macaddr=00:a2:6d:80:10:8f,model=rtl8139 \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -net user \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -net user,smb=/home/david/Bureau \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -rtc base=localtime \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -name "Debian + LXDE sur iMac G3" \</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"> -M g3beige</p>
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On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:56 PM, David VANTYGHEM <[email protected]> wrote:

Try:

boot hd:2,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX

boot hd:2,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -> No valid state has been set by load or init-program

boot hd:1,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -> No valid state has been set by load or init-program

boot hd:0,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -> nothing happens and in the AQEMU serial console, I've got this message : Not a bootable ELF image

How did you boot the installation ISO? The installed system should be booted exactly the same way provided that you PowerMac emulation is accurate.

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<div>Try:</div>
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<div>boot hd:2,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX</div>
</blockquote>
<p>boot hd:2,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -&gt; No valid
state has been set by load or init-program<br>
</p>
<p>boot hd:1,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -&gt; No valid
state has been set by load or init-program</p>
<p>boot hd:0,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -&gt; nothing
happens and in the AQEMU serial console, I've got this message :
Not a bootable ELF image</p>
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On 4/15/21 6:40 PM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:

I've got a real grey G3, this model : https://everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac_dv_se_500.html#macspecs1

Well, that's not a beige G3 but an iMac which is newer.

A beige G3 is this: https://512pixels.net/2012/04/old-mac-of-the-month-beige-powermac-g3/

I want to emulate it with qemu before installing Debian on it. Perhaps I should use another option ?

Try changing the emulation to a newer machine type such as the iMac.

Or just test on real hardware. You can install on an external Firewire
disk if you don't want to use the internal hard disk.

Adrian

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Le 15/04/2021 à 18:21, Stan Johnson a écrit :

Hello David,

On 4/15/21 10:07 AM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:

Le 15/04/2021 à 18:01, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :

On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:56 PM, David VANTYGHEM
<[email protected]> wrote:

Try:

boot hd:2,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX

boot hd:2,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -> No valid state has
been set by load or init-program

boot hd:1,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -> No valid state has
been set by load or init-program

boot hd:0,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX -> nothing happens and
in the AQEMU serial console, I've got this message : Not a bootable
ELF image

How did you boot the installation ISO? The installed system should be
booted exactly the same way provided that you PowerMac emulation is
accurate.

Adrian

To install Debian, I boot from the installation ISO file, mounted on a
virtual CDROM : /usr/bin/qemu-system-ppc \

-monitor stdio \

...

-name "Debian + LXDE sur iMac G3" \

-M g3beige
...

I don't know anything about the emulator that you are using, but a
PowerMac G3 Beige system is an OldWorld PowerMac, despite the fact that
it has an early version of Open Firmware. A real-hardware G3 Beige
system requires BootX to boot Linux (it can't use Yaboot or GRUB). On a
side note, the first NewWorld PowerMac, the Lombard G3 PowerBook, also apparently can't use GRUB because its Open Firmware is too old (though
Yaboot works ok on this system).

If that information is not relevant here, please disregard.

-Stan Johnson

I've got a real grey G3, this model : https://everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac_dv_se_500.html#macspecs1

I want to emulate it with qemu before installing Debian on it. Perhaps I
should use another option ?


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écrit :<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Hello David,

On 4/15/21 10:07 AM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
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Le 15/04/2021 à 18:56, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :

On 4/15/21 6:40 PM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:

I've got a real grey G3, this model : https://everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac_dv_se_500.html#macspecs1

Well, that's not a beige G3 but an iMac which is newer.

A beige G3 is this: https://512pixels.net/2012/04/old-mac-of-the-month-beige-powermac-g3/

I want to emulate it with qemu before installing Debian on it. Perhaps I should use another option ?

Try changing the emulation to a newer machine type such as the iMac.

Indeed, I must use -M mac99 option. I'm trying another installation...

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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On 4/15/21 6:40 PM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I've got a real grey G3, this model : <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac_dv_se_500.html#macspecs1">https://everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac_dv_se_
500.html#macspecs1</a>
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Well, that's not a beige G3 but an iMac which is newer.

A beige G3 is this: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://512pixels.net/2012/04/old-mac-of-the-month-beige-powermac-g3/">https://512pixels.net/2012/04/old-mac-of-the-month-beige-powermac-g3/</a>

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Try changing the emulation to a newer machine type such as the iMac.

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<p>Indeed, I must use -M mac99 option. I'm trying another
installation...<br>
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On 15/04/2021 16:20, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

On Apr 15, 2021, at 5:14 PM, David VANTYGHEM <[email protected]> wrote:

I installed this new version in AQEMU. Now, the installation works well until the
end. But after the first reboot, Debian doesn't start :
https://cryptpad.fr/file/#/2/file/jSGurNmToWjl+NXFOqSPkCcw/

That’s because your emulator doesn’t support NVRAM emulation. You have to boot from
harddisk manually.

Try:

boot hd:2,\\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX

Ah I don't think this will work: the \\ (double backslash) is used as part of the
\\:tbxi escape sequence, and not to specify the root path. It should be something
like this:

boot hd:2,\System\Library\CoreServices\BootX


ATB,

Mark.

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On 15/04/2021 17:07, David VANTYGHEM wrote:

To install Debian, I boot from the installation ISO file, mounted on a virtual CDROM
: /usr/bin/qemu-system-ppc \

-monitor stdio \

-k fr \

-machine accel=tcg \

-m 512 \

-drive file="/home/david/Documents/Informatique/Documentation/Macintosh/debian-10.0.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso",media=cdrom
\

-drive file="/home/david/Documents/Informatique/Documentation/Macintosh/Debian + LXDE
sur iMac G3.vmdk",if=ide,media=disk \

For the -drive part you're not specifying the unit number/bus so QEMU will simply
start from zero and plug the drives in sequentially. I don't think this will match
the aliases for hd and cd in the device tree.

Have a look at some of the examples on the wiki at https://wiki.qemu.org/Documentation/Platforms/PowerPC to see how this is done.

Note that all of the -hda/-hdb/-hdc/-hdc and -drive parameters are now deprecated in
favour of -blockdev but they will work for now.

-*boot once=d*,menu=on \

The boot once option isn't supported by OpenBIOS. Just used -boot c for the hard disk
or -boot d for the CDROM.

-net nic,macaddr=00:a2:6d:80:10:8f,model=rtl8139 \

Why are you using a non-default network card? The sungem NIC as found in a real Mac
has been the default for years now.

-net user \

-net user,smb=/home/david/Bureau \

-rtc base=localtime \

-name "Debian + LXDE sur iMac G3" \

-M g3beige

ATB,

Mark.

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On 15/04/2021 07:56, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

On 4/14/21 10:43 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

Let me know how the image works for you, then I can commit the changes for >> the grub-installer package to git when we know it works for most people for >> the time being.

Since I didn't get any feedback but today's image worked for me without any problems (except for the known issue with the empty question dialog), I just committed the changes to grub-installer to git [1].

Thanks,
Adrian

Hi Adrian,

Does this image have hfsutils installed as a deb as well as a udeb? If so, then I
should be able to run the installer and bless the grub executable manually afterwards?


ATB,

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On 15/04/2021 18:27, David VANTYGHEM wrote:

Le 15/04/2021 à 18:56, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :

On 4/15/21 6:40 PM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:

I've got a real grey G3, this model :https://everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac_dv_se_500.html#macspecs1

Well, that's not a beige G3 but an iMac which is newer.

A beige G3 is this:https://512pixels.net/2012/04/old-mac-of-the-month-beige-powermac-g3/

I want to emulate it with qemu before installing Debian on it. Perhaps I should use another option ?

Try changing the emulation to a newer machine type such as the iMac.

Indeed, I must use -M mac99 option. I'm trying another installation...

Well if you've managed to complete an installation on -M g3beige then I'm fairly sure
that this isn't the problem. As per my earlier email I suspect that your non-standard
-drive parameters may be the issue.


ATB,

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Hi Adrian,

thanks for your work again!

On 14 Apr 2021, at 22:43, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

Let me know how the image works for you, then I can commit the changes
for
the grub-installer package to git when we know it works for most
people for
the time being.

I now found some time to run the install procedure from USB disks (I
could boot fine via `boot ud:\boot\grub\powerpc.elf`). I did a very
default install with the preset partition table. But it failed at
installing grub at the end of the installation procedure. I can see the obvious: It is not correct to install grub to /dev/sdb3 as this is the partition that was created for swap. But there seems to be even more
going wrong:

```
Apr 15 19:52:24 grub-installer: info: Installing grub on '/dev/sdb3'
Apr 15 19:52:24 grub-installer: info: grub-install does not support
--no-floppy
Apr 15 19:52:24 grub-installer: info: Running chroot /target
grub-install --macppc-directory=/boot/grub --no-nvram --force
Apr 15 19:52:24 grub-installer: Installing for powerpc-ieee1275
platform.
Apr 15 19:52:25 grub-installer: grub-install: error: filesystem on
/boot/grub is neither HFS nor HFS+
Apr 15 19:52:25 grub-installer: .
Apr 15 19:52:25 grub-installer: error: Running 'grub-install --macppc-directory=/boot/grub --no-nvram --force failed.
Apr 15 19:55:20 main-menu[245]: (process:4796): dpkg-divert: warning:
diverting file '/sbin/start-stop-daemon' from an Essential package with
rename is dangerous, use --no-rename
Apr 15 19:55:20 main-menu[245]: (process:4796): dpkg-divert: warning:
diverting file '/sbin/start-stop-daemon' from an Essential package with
rename is dangerous, use --no-rename
Apr 15 19:55:20 main-menu[245]: (process:4796): dpkg-divert: warning:
diverting file '/sbin/start-stop-daemon' from an Essential package with
rename is dangerous, use --no-rename
Apr 15 19:55:20 main-menu[245]: (process:4796): grub-probe: error:
Apr 15 19:55:20 main-menu[245]: (process:4796):
Apr 15 19:55:20 main-menu[245]: (process:4796): failed to get canonical
path of `/boot/grub'
```

I’m sending you full install logs via direct mail. If you do need any
more information, just tell me. The machine is still warm and running
the install OS and I could try some things.

Thank you
Johannes

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<p dir="auto">Hi Adrian,</p>

<p dir="auto">thanks for your work again!</p>

<p dir="auto">On 14 Apr 2021, at 22:43, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:</p>

<blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #777; color:#777; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px">
<p dir="auto">Let me know how the image works for you, then I can commit the changes for<br>
the grub-installer package to git when we know it works for most people for<br> the time being.</p>
</blockquote>

<p dir="auto">I now found some time to run the install procedure from USB disks (I could boot fine via <code style="background-color:#F7F7F7; border-radius:3px; margin:0; padding:0 0.4em" bgcolor="#F7F7F7">boot ud:\boot\grub\powerpc.elf</code>). I did a
very default install with the preset partition table. But it failed at installing grub at the end of the installation procedure. I can see the obvious: It is not correct to install grub to /dev/sdb3 as this is the partition that was created for swap. But
there seems to be even more going wrong:</p>

<pre style="background-color:#F7F7F7; border-radius:5px 5px 5px 5px; margin-left:15px; margin-right:15px; max-width:90vw; overflow-x:auto; padding:5px" bgcolor="#F7F7F7"><code style="background-color:#F7F7F7; border-radius:3px; margin:0; padding:0"
bgcolor="#F7F7F7">Apr 15 19:52:24 grub-installer: info: Installing grub on '/dev/sdb3'
Apr 15 19:52:24 grub-installer: info: grub-install does not support --no-floppy Apr 15 19:52:24 grub-installer: info: Running chroot /target grub-install --macppc-directory=/boot/grub --no-nvram --force
Apr 15 19:52:24 grub-installer: Installing for powerpc-ieee1275 platform.
Apr 15 19:52:25 grub-installer: grub-install: error: filesystem on /boot/grub is neither HFS nor HFS+
Apr 15 19:52:25 grub-installer: .
Apr 15 19:52:25 grub-installer: error: Running 'grub-install --macppc-directory=/boot/grub --no-nvram --force failed.
Apr 15 19:55:20 main-menu[245]: (process:4796): dpkg-divert: warning: diverting file '/sbin/start-stop-daemon' from an Essential package with rename is dangerous, use --no-rename
Apr 15 19:55:20 main-menu[245]: (process:4796): dpkg-divert: warning: diverting file '/sbin/start-stop-daemon' from an Essential package with rename is dangerous, use --no-rename
Apr 15 19:55:20 main-menu[245]: (process:4796): dpkg-divert: warning: diverting file '/sbin/start-stop-daemon' from an Essential package with rename is dangerous, use --no-rename
Apr 15 19:55:20 main-menu[245]: (process:4796): grub-probe: error:
Apr 15 19:55:20 main-menu[245]: (process:4796):
Apr 15 19:55:20 main-menu[245]: (process:4796): failed to get canonical path of `/boot/grub'
</code></pre>

<p dir="auto">I’m sending you full install logs via direct mail. If you do need any more information, just tell me. The machine is still warm and running the install OS and I could try some things.</p>

<p dir="auto">Thank you<br>
Johannes</p>
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On 4/15/21 10:07 PM, Johannes Brakensiek wrote:

I now found some time to run the install procedure from USB disks (I could boot fine
via `boot ud:\boot\grub\powerpc.elf`). I did a very default install with the preset
partition table. But it failed at installing grub at the end of the installation
procedure. I can see the obvious: It is not correct to install grub to /dev/sdb3 as
this is the partition that was created for swap. But there seems to be even more going wrong:

I have no clue why it should detect /dev/sdb3 as /boot/grub, that's not really possible.

So either the ppc64 image is broken (please use the powerpc image) or there is something
completely illogical happening on your machine.

Did you actually get an HFS filesystem that was mounted to /boot/grub? You can check that
with "mount" when switching to a different console.

But again, I'm really confused by this as I don't really think that something like this
is possible. If you look at the code [1], it will try to use the device that was mounted
to /boot/grub. So if you claim it tried to install GRUB to a swap device, then your
swap partition would have been mounted to /boot/grub which is not possible.

Please test the 32-bit powerpc image.

Adrian

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On 4/15/21 4:07 PM, Johannes Brakensiek wrote:

Hi Adrian,

thanks for your work again!

On 14 Apr 2021, at 22:43, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

Let me know how the image works for you, then I can commit the changes
for
the grub-installer package to git when we know it works for most
people for
the time being.

I now found some time to run the install procedure from USB disks (I
could boot fine via `boot ud:\boot\grub\powerpc.elf`). I did a very
default install with the preset partition table. But it failed at
installing grub at the end of the installation procedure. I can see the obvious: It is not correct to install grub to /dev/sdb3 as this is the partition that was created for swap. But there seems to be even more
going wrong:

```
Apr 15 19:52:24 grub-installer: info: Installing grub on '/dev/sdb3'
Apr 15 19:52:24 grub-installer: info: grub-install does not support --no-floppy
Apr 15 19:52:24 grub-installer: info: Running chroot /target
grub-install  --macppc-directory=/boot/grub --no-nvram --force
Apr 15 19:52:24 grub-installer: Installing for powerpc-ieee1275 platform.
Apr 15 19:52:25 grub-installer: grub-install: error: filesystem on
/boot/grub is neither HFS nor HFS+
Apr 15 19:52:25 grub-installer: .
Apr 15 19:52:25 grub-installer: error: Running 'grub-install  --macppc-directory=/boot/grub --no-nvram --force failed.
Apr 15 19:55:20 main-menu[245]: (process:4796): dpkg-divert: warning: diverting file '/sbin/start-stop-daemon' from an Essential package with rename is dangerous, use --no-rename
Apr 15 19:55:20 main-menu[245]: (process:4796): dpkg-divert: warning: diverting file '/sbin/start-stop-daemon' from an Essential package with rename is dangerous, use --no-rename
Apr 15 19:55:20 main-menu[245]: (process:4796): dpkg-divert: warning: diverting file '/sbin/start-stop-daemon' from an Essential package with rename is dangerous, use --no-rename
Apr 15 19:55:20 main-menu[245]: (process:4796): grub-probe: error:
Apr 15 19:55:20 main-menu[245]: (process:4796):
Apr 15 19:55:20 main-menu[245]: (process:4796): failed to get canonical
path of `/boot/grub'
```

I also see similar behavior. However I simply used the most trivial
partition options in the default installer AND with the expert mode and
in both cases I see in partman log :


* * * * default mode stuff * * * * *


/lib/partman/finish.d/75reformat_after_restart: IN: PARTITIONS =dev=sda parted_server: Read command: PARTITIONS
parted_server: command_partitions()
parted_server: Opening outfifo
parted_server: OUT: OK


parted_server: OUT: 1 512-32767 32256 primary unknown /dev/sda1 Apple


parted_server: OUT: 2 32768-1033215 1000448 primary hfs /dev/sda2 untitled


parted_server: OUT: 3 1033216-299045033471 299044000256 primary ext4 /dev/sda3 untitled


parted_server: OUT: 4 299045033472-300069027327 1023993856 primary linux-swap /dev/sda4 swap


parted_server: OUT: -1 300069027328-300069052415 25088 primary free /dev/sda-1


parted_server: Partitions printed
parted_server: OUT:


So there we do see /dev/sda3 is the single large ext4 filesystem for everything. There is no separate /boot or /boot/grub. Perhaps /dev/sda2
should be the /boot/grub ? I don't know.

Regardless the syslog reports :


Apr 15 03:09:17 grub-installer: info: Installing grub on '/dev/sda3'
Apr 15 03:09:17 grub-installer: info: grub-install does not support
--no-floppy
Apr 15 03:09:17 grub-installer: info: Running chroot /target
grub-install --macppc-directory=/boot/grub --no-nvram --force
Apr 15 03:09:17 grub-installer: Installing for powerpc-ieee1275 platform.
Apr 15 03:09:19 grub-installer: grub-install: error: filesystem on
/boot/grub is neither HFS nor HFS+.
Apr 15 03:09:19 grub-installer: error: Running 'grub-install --macppc-directory=/boot/grub --no-nvram --force failed.


* * * * expert mode stuff * * * * *

parted_server: Read command: PARTITIONS
parted_server: command_partitions()
parted_server: Opening outfifo
parted_server: OUT: OK


parted_server: OUT: 1 512-32767 32256 primary unknown /dev/sda1 Apple


parted_server: OUT: 2 32768-1033215 1000448 primary hfs /dev/sda2 untitled


parted_server: OUT: 3 1033216-299045033471 299044000256 primary ext4 /dev/sda3 untitled


parted_server: OUT: 4 299045033472-300069027327 1023993856 primary linux-swap /dev/sda4 swap


parted_server: OUT: -1 300069027328-300069052415 25088 primary free /dev/sda-1


parted_server: Partitions printed
parted_server: OUT:


That looks similar.

Apr 15 02:43:00 grub-installer: info: Installing grub on '/dev/sda3'
Apr 15 02:43:00 grub-installer: info: grub-install does not support
--no-floppy
Apr 15 02:43:04 grub-installer: info: Running chroot /target
grub-install --macppc-directory=/boot/grub --no-nvram --force
Apr 15 02:43:05 grub-installer: Installing for powerpc-ieee1275 platform.
Apr 15 02:43:05 grub-installer: grub-install: error:
Apr 15 02:43:05 grub-installer: filesystem on /boot/grub is neither HFS
nor HFS+.
Apr 15 02:43:05 grub-installer: error: Running 'grub-install --macppc-directory=/boot/grub --no-nvram --force failed.

So it seems that I should try again but manually create a /boot
filesystem that is what? Apple HFS somehow ?

I sent the log files in a previous email to John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
and this list. It "feels like" everything should just work with a minor
tweak somewhere.


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On 4/16/21 8:29 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote:

I also see similar behavior. However I simply used the most trivial partition options in the default installer AND with the expert mode and
in both cases I see in partman log :

Yes, I made a mistake in the ppc64 image because I couldn't test it here.

But that's an issue with how the image was assembled, not with the changes
per se. I don't need any additional reports on ppc64, I already saw my
mistake.

Adrian

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On 16 Apr 2021, at 8:43, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

But that's an issue with how the image was assembled, not with the
changes
per se. I don't need any additional reports on ppc64, I already saw my mistake.

Great, thank you. Would you like to point us the fresh image once it’s
there? I admit I don’t get where to find the correct testing image in
all those dirs…

Thanks
Johannes

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On 4/16/21 2:43 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

On 4/16/21 8:29 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote:

I also see similar behavior. However I simply used the most trivial
partition options in the default installer AND with the expert mode and
in both cases I see in partman log :

Yes, I made a mistake in the ppc64 image because I couldn't test it here.

But that's an issue with how the image was assembled, not with the changes per se. I don't need any additional reports on ppc64, I already saw my mistake.

Excellent. Had to be something minor. Thank you and I shall await a new installer image.

Dennis Clarke

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Am Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 10:43:58PM +0200 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz:

Hi!

Here are the first test images where the installation of GRUB on PowerMacs should finally work properly [1]. It took me quite some time and effort with lots of testing to get the implementation right.

Adrian, thanks for putting all this effort into it. I grab the snapshot,
put it on an usb stick and booted my
Apple PowerBook6,5 4.8.7f1 BootROM built on 09/23/04 at 16:13:38
with it. The installation went smooth (including that dialog that needed
to be answered "<NO>" right after partman was finished)

The system even booted into grub but than failed with

Welcome to GRUB!

Invalid memory access at %SRR0: 00100cbc %SSR1: 10003030

I haven't seen this kind of error on the list before, so I'm a bit
clueless.

Uwe

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On 4/16/21 9:26 AM, Uwe Steinmann wrote:

The system even booted into grub but than failed with

Welcome to GRUB!

Invalid memory access at %SRR0: 00100cbc %SSR1: 10003030

I haven't seen this kind of error on the list before, so I'm a bit
clueless.

That's something that needs to be reported as a bug to GRUB upstream.

I'm surprised however that you could boot the CD-ROM which also uses
GRUB boot not the system from harddisk.

Adrian

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