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  • Debian Gnome versus Debian Cinnamon on UTM - M1 Mac

    From FritzS GMX@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 16 09:20:01 2022
    Hi,
    I installed UTM / QEMU on my M1 (ARM) Mac Mini, 16GB RAM, 2TB SSD, Monterey 12.5

    I test some ARM able Linux Distributions.

    So as Debian Gnome and Debian Cinnamon

    Ob Debian Cinnamon I get the message
    »Please check graphics driver
    Your system is currently running without video
    hardware acceleration.
    You may experience poor performance and high CPU utilization.
    high CPU load.«

    On Debian Gnome I don’t get this message. What's wrong? Which graphic driver missing in Cinnamon?

    …..

    I installed SPICE guest agent tools, so copy and paste works well between Linux and Mac.

    But ‚Shared Directory‘ don’t work, what I must do for this?

    …..

    I had test VMware Fusion for M1 Mac pre-version to, but UTM / QEMU runs felt better for me.

    …..

    Postscript:
    There are not many Linux ARM Distributions yet - for example manjaro ARM is not installable on Mac - does not support UEFI.
    Fedora Gnome ARM still runs - but is a bit buggy.

    —
    Nice greetings
    FritzS
    [email protected]

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  • From Wookey@21:1/5 to FritzS GMX on Tue Aug 16 19:00:02 2022
    On 2022-08-16 09:19 +0200, FritzS GMX wrote:
    Hi,
    I installed UTM / QEMU on my M1 (ARM) Mac Mini, 16GB RAM, 2TB SSD, Monterey 12.5

    Ob Debian Cinnamon I get the message
    »Please check graphics driver
    Your system is currently running without video
    hardware acceleration.
    You may experience poor performance and high CPU utilization.
    high CPU load.«

    On Debian Gnome I don’t get this message. What's wrong? Which graphic driver missing in Cinnamon?

    There is no free driver for the M1 GPU yet (the Asahi project is
    working one) so the message is correct that unaccelerated graphics is
    being used. However in practie this seems to work pretty well.

    Glad to hear that Debian is installale on this hardware.

    Wookey
    --
    Principal hats: Debian, Wookware, ARM
    http://wookware.org/

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  • From FritzS GMX@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 16 19:10:01 2022
    Am 16.08.2022 um 18:49 schrieb Wookey <[email protected]>:

    On 2022-08-16 09:19 +0200, FritzS GMX wrote:
    Hi,
    I installed UTM / QEMU on my M1 (ARM) Mac Mini, 16GB RAM, 2TB SSD, Monterey 12.5

    Ob Debian Cinnamon I get the message
    »Please check graphics driver
    Your system is currently running without video
    hardware acceleration.
    You may experience poor performance and high CPU utilization.
    high CPU load.«

    On Debian Gnome I don’t get this message. What's wrong? Which graphic driver missing in Cinnamon?

    There is no free driver for the M1 GPU yet (the Asahi project is
    working one) so the message is correct that unaccelerated graphics is
    being used. However in practie this seems to work pretty well.

    Glad to hear that Debian is installale on this hardware.

    Strange that this error message only occurs with Debian Cinnamon - but not with Debian Gnome and Fedora Gnome.

    I followed the tip from UTM, but it does not help in this case https://mac.getutm.app/support/ <https://mac.getutm.app/support/>
    SPICE Guest Tools (Ubuntu)
    Run from a terminal:
    $ sudo apt install spice-vdagent spice-webdavd


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    div class="">Am 16.08.2022 um 18:49 schrieb Wookey &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]" class="">[email protected]</a>&gt;:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0,
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    webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Hi,<br class="">I installed UTM / QEMU on my M1 (ARM) Mac Mini, 16GB RAM, 2TB SSD, Monterey 12.5<br class=""><br class="">Ob Debian Cinnamon I get the message<
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    0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">There is no free driver for the M1 GPU yet (the Asahi project is</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-
    variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color:
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    font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><
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    spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">being used. However in practie this seems to work pretty well.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica;
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    this hardware.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div><div>Strange that this error message only occurs with Debian Cinnamon - but not with Debian Gnome and Fedora Gnome.</div><div><br class=""></
    <div>I followed the tip from UTM, but it does not help in this case</div><div><a href="https://mac.getutm.app/support/" class="">https://mac.getutm.app/support/</a>&nbsp;</div><div>SPICE Guest Tools (Ubuntu)</div><div>Run from a terminal:</div><div>$
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  • From Hank Barta@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Aug 16 19:50:01 2022
    On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 11:50 AM Wookey <[email protected]> wrote:


    There is no free driver for the M1 GPU yet (the Asahi project is
    working one)


    That matters for Linux installed directly on the M1/M2 hardware. The OP mentioned "UTM / QEMU" so I thought he was talking about running these in a
    VM. Woulldn't the GPU be virtualized and have the facilities provided by
    the host OS (MacOS?)

    --
    Beautiful Sunny Winfield

    <div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 11:50 AM Wookey &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_
    quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
    There is no free driver for the M1 GPU yet (the Asahi project is<br>
    working one) </blockquote><div><br></div><div>That matters for Linux installed directly on the M1/M2 hardware. The OP mentioned &quot;UTM / QEMU&quot; so I thought he was talking about running these in a VM. Woulldn&#39;t the GPU be virtualized and have
    the facilities provided by the host OS (MacOS?)</div></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Beautiful Sunny Winfield</div></div></div>

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  • From Keith Bainbridge@21:1/5 to Wookey on Wed Aug 17 00:40:01 2022
    On 17/8/22 02:49, Wookey wrote:
    On 2022-08-16 09:19 +0200, FritzS GMX wrote:
    Hi,
    I installed UTM / QEMU on my M1 (ARM) Mac Mini, 16GB RAM, 2TB SSD, Monterey 12.5

    Ob Debian Cinnamon I get the message
    »Please check graphics driver
    Your system is currently running without video
    hardware acceleration.
    You may experience poor performance and high CPU utilization.
    high CPU load.«

    On Debian Gnome I don’t get this message. What's wrong? Which graphic driver missing in Cinnamon?

    There is no free driver for the M1 GPU yet (the Asahi project is
    working one) so the message is correct that unaccelerated graphics is
    being used. However in practie this seems to work pretty well.

    Glad to hear that Debian is installale on this hardware.

    Wookey

    I use virtualbox, so may be different

    I get that message when running cinnamon guests - until I increase the
    Video Memory (under Settings for the guest; after you add the new
    guest). I use 128M in stead on the default 16M

    --
    All the best

    Keith Bainbridge

    [email protected]

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