Hi,

I have a machine which I have updated since Wheezy in 2013 and has thus accumulated a bit of cruft. It is currently running Bookworm but seems
to have become stuck at 12.7.

I have a second machine on which I installed a fresh Bookworm a few
weeks ago. This has point release 12.9.

I have replaced /etc/apt/source.list on the 12.7 machine with that from
the 12.9 machine, done

apt-get clean
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade

but no new packages are installed.

Where could I look to see where the problem is?

Cheers,

Loris

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Loris Bennett wrote:

Hi,

I have a machine which I have updated since Wheezy in 2013 and has thus accumulated a bit of cruft. It is currently running Bookworm but seems
to have become stuck at 12.7.

I have a second machine on which I installed a fresh Bookworm a few
weeks ago. This has point release 12.9.

I have replaced /etc/apt/source.list on the 12.7 machine with that from
the 12.9 machine, done

apt-get clean
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade

but no new packages are installed.

You don't need to change your sources inside a major version.
The minor version is effectively invisible.

Please tell us the exact and actual output from running:

# apt update


and, after that,

# apt list --upgradable


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Dan Ritter <[email protected]> writes:

Loris Bennett wrote:

Hi,

I have a machine which I have updated since Wheezy in 2013 and has thus
accumulated a bit of cruft. It is currently running Bookworm but seems
to have become stuck at 12.7.

I have a second machine on which I installed a fresh Bookworm a few
weeks ago. This has point release 12.9.

I have replaced /etc/apt/source.list on the 12.7 machine with that from
the 12.9 machine, done

apt-get clean
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade

but no new packages are installed.

You don't need to change your sources inside a major version.
The minor version is effectively invisible.

Please tell us the exact and actual output from running:

# apt update

and, after that,

# apt list --upgradable

# apt update
Hit:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease
Hit:2 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease Get:3 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease [55.4 kB]
Fetched 55.4 kB in 1s (109 kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
All packages are up to date.

# apt list --upgradable
Listing... Done

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On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 10:03:48AM +0100, Loris Bennett wrote:

Hi,

I have a machine which I have updated since Wheezy in 2013 and has thus accumulated a bit of cruft. It is currently running Bookworm but seems
to have become stuck at 12.7.

I have a second machine on which I installed a fresh Bookworm a few
weeks ago. This has point release 12.9.

12.10 was just released this last weekend so you might want to upgrade
again. It's not vital but you'll then be more up to date.

apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade works for me to do that.

I hit something similar the other day. You can try (from Adam Barratt on IRC):

adsb | often just rm-ing /var/lib/apt/lists/* and trying again is enough

In my case, I switched mirrors - my /etc/apt/sources.list pointed to deb.debian.org in each line of the stanza.

I'm in the UK to changed this to ftp.uk.debian.org for each line and it
worked for me. I think sometimes it's just a stale file / cache somewhere.

Try changing mirrors to the nearest mirror in your country, maybe, and
see if that makes a difference.

As ever with apt problems, it's really useful if you can copy you
*actual* /etc/apt/sources.list file to the mailing list.

It is very easy to make a typo. Invariably, when you do so, someone else
will spot _exactly_ what you've done immediately, even though you've been looking at it for hours :)

With every good wish, as ever,

Andy Cater
([email protected])

I have replaced /etc/apt/source.list on the 12.7 machine with that from
the 12.9 machine, done

apt-get clean
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade

but no new packages are installed.

Where could I look to see where the problem is?

Cheers,

Loris

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Max Nikulin <[email protected]> writes:

On 18/03/2025 02:24, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

As ever with apt problems, it's really useful if you can copy you
*actual* /etc/apt/sources.list file to the mailing list.

Output of

apt policy

while being more "noisy", is a more reliable source for
troubleshooting. The first step is to check if it matches expected configuration from /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
files. If apt source are correct then try

apt list --upgradable

or "apt list '~U'". There are some subtle differences between apt and
apt-get commands. Unless you have some old package preventing upgrade
or a similar issue, "apt update" and "apt upgrade" should install
packages from next point release.

My sources.list was correct, but 'apt update/upgrade' failed to install anything, so I assume Andrew is correct in pointing the finger at some
sort of caching issue which removing /var/lib/apt/lists/* resolved.

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"Andrew M.A. Cater" <[email protected]> writes:

On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 10:03:48AM +0100, Loris Bennett wrote:

Hi,

I have a machine which I have updated since Wheezy in 2013 and has thus
accumulated a bit of cruft. It is currently running Bookworm but seems
to have become stuck at 12.7.

I have a second machine on which I installed a fresh Bookworm a few
weeks ago. This has point release 12.9.

12.10 was just released this last weekend so you might want to upgrade
again. It's not vital but you'll then be more up to date.

apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade works for me to do that.

I hit something similar the other day. You can try (from Adam Barratt on IRC):

adsb | often just rm-ing /var/lib/apt/lists/* and trying again is enough

This seems to have done the trick. Many thanks to you (and Adam Barratt).
Now I have:

# cat /etc/debian_version
12.10

In my case, I switched mirrors - my /etc/apt/sources.list pointed to deb.debian.org in each line of the stanza.

I'm in the UK to changed this to ftp.uk.debian.org for each line and it worked for me. I think sometimes it's just a stale file / cache somewhere.

Try changing mirrors to the nearest mirror in your country, maybe, and
see if that makes a difference.

As ever with apt problems, it's really useful if you can copy you
*actual* /etc/apt/sources.list file to the mailing list.

It is very easy to make a typo. Invariably, when you do so, someone else
will spot _exactly_ what you've done immediately, even though you've been looking at it for hours :)

With every good wish, as ever,

Andy Cater
([email protected])

I have replaced /etc/apt/source.list on the 12.7 machine with that from
the 12.9 machine, done

apt-get clean
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade

but no new packages are installed.

Where could I look to see where the problem is?

Cheers,

Loris

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Xiyue Deng <[email protected]> writes:

"Loris Bennett" <[email protected]> writes:

Dan Ritter <[email protected]> writes:

Loris Bennett wrote:

Hi,

I have a machine which I have updated since Wheezy in 2013 and has thus >>>> accumulated a bit of cruft. It is currently running Bookworm but seems >>>> to have become stuck at 12.7.

I have a second machine on which I installed a fresh Bookworm a few
weeks ago. This has point release 12.9.

I have replaced /etc/apt/source.list on the 12.7 machine with that from >>>> the 12.9 machine, done

apt-get clean
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade

but no new packages are installed.

You don't need to change your sources inside a major version.
The minor version is effectively invisible.

Please tell us the exact and actual output from running:

# apt update


and, after that,

# apt list --upgradable

# apt update
Hit:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease
Hit:2 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease >> Get:3 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease [55.4 kB]
Fetched 55.4 kB in 1s (109 kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
All packages are up to date.

# apt list --upgradable
Listing... Done

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It's possible that your system has already been upgraded automatically
by unattended-upgrade.

I don't think that is the case.

Can you show the output of the following commands?

cat /etc/debian_version

$ cat /etc/debian_version
12.7

uname -a

$ uname -a
Linux hornfels 6.1.0-25-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.106-3 (2024-08-26) x86_64 GNU/Linux

dpkg -l | grep linux-image

$ dpkg -l | grep linux-image
rc linux-image-4.19.0-10-amd64 4.19.132-1 amd64 Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
rc linux-image-4.19.0-12-amd64 4.19.152-1 amd64 Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
rc linux-image-4.19.0-13-amd64 4.19.160-2 amd64 Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
rc linux-image-4.19.0-14-amd64 4.19.171-2 amd64 Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
rc linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64 4.19.181-1 amd64 Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
rc linux-image-4.19.0-18-amd64 4.19.208-1 amd64 Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
rc linux-image-4.19.0-5-amd64 4.19.37-5+deb10u2 amd64 Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
rc linux-image-4.9.0-9-amd64 4.9.168-1+deb9u4 amd64 Linux 4.9 for 64-bit PCs
rc linux-image-5.10.0-13-amd64 5.10.106-1 amd64 Linux 5.10 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
rc linux-image-5.10.0-16-amd64 5.10.127-2 amd64 Linux 5.10 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
rc linux-image-5.10.0-18-amd64 5.10.140-1 amd64 Linux 5.10 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
rc linux-image-5.10.0-20-amd64 5.10.158-2 amd64 Linux 5.10 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
rc linux-image-5.10.0-22-amd64 5.10.178-3 amd64 Linux 5.10 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
rc linux-image-6.1.0-10-amd64 6.1.38-2 amd64 Linux 6.1 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
rc linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64 6.1.55-1 amd64 Linux 6.1 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
rc linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64 6.1.66-1 amd64 Linux 6.1 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
rc linux-image-6.1.0-18-amd64 6.1.76-1 amd64 Linux 6.1 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
ii linux-image-6.1.0-22-amd64 6.1.94-1 amd64 Linux 6.1 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
ii linux-image-6.1.0-25-amd64 6.1.106-3 amd64 Linux 6.1 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
ii linux-image-amd64 6.1.106-3 amd64 Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package)

cat /etc/apt/sources.list

$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main non-free-firmware

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main non-free-firmware

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main non-free-firmware

As you can see, the source.list is correct but the linux-image packages
don't include the ones for 12.9

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