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  • Firefox and Video DRM

    From George at Clug@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 31 08:00:01 2025
    Does anyone use Firefox to watch DRM protected Video content?


    Is it normal for DRM to display lots of ads whenever Firefox is
    loaded?



    I did enable DRM once, a long time ago, and I started getting annoying
    ads whenever Firefox was loaded. It took a while for me to determine
    it was because of the DRM add-on. The DRM add-on was loaded into the
    user's file space. I do not know if displaying the ads was normal DRM
    add-on behavour or whether a malisious web page had replaced the
    originally downloaded DRM file with a hacked version. My solution at
    the time was to delete any Firefox folders in my /home/username area
    (e.g. ~/.mozilla/firefox). DRM was not too important to me, so I now
    just do not enable DRM. 


    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enable-drm
    Firefox for desktop supports the Google Widevine CDM for playing
    DRM-controlled content.

    Disabling Google Widevine from the Add-ons Manager prevents it from
    running on your computer and prevents future updates from downloading.


    Please reply if you have had any such experiences.

    George.

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    <div>Does anyone use Firefox to watch DRM protected Video content?</div><div><br></div><div>Is it normal for DRM to display lots of ads whenever Firefox is loaded? <br></div><div><br></div><div>I did enable DRM once, a long time ago, and I started
    getting annoying ads whenever Firefox was loaded. It took a while for me to determine it was because of the DRM add-on. The DRM add-on was loaded into the user's file space. I do not know if displaying the ads was normal DRM add-on behavour or whether a
    malisious web page had replaced the originally downloaded DRM file with a hacked version. My solution at the time was to delete any Firefox folders in my /home/username area (e.g. ~/.mozilla/firefox). DRM was not too important to me, so I now just do not
    enable DRM.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enable-drm</div><div>Firefox for desktop supports the Google Widevine CDM for playing DRM-controlled content.<span class="for" data-for="win,mac"> <br></span></div><div>
    Disabling Google Widevine from the Add-ons Manager prevents it from
    running on your computer and prevents future updates from downloading.</div><div><br></div><div>Please reply if you have had any such experiences.</div><div><br>George.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="for" data-for="win,mac"><br></span></div><div><
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  • From Bret Busby@21:1/5 to George at Clug on Fri Jan 31 09:00:01 2025
    On 31/1/25 14:50, George at Clug wrote:
    Does anyone use Firefox to watch DRM protected Video content?

    Is it normal for DRM to display lots of ads whenever Firefox is loaded?

    I did enable DRM once, a long time ago, and I started getting annoying
    ads whenever Firefox was loaded. It took a while for me to determine it
    was because of the DRM add-on. The DRM add-on was loaded into the user's
    file space. I do not know if displaying the ads was normal DRM add-on behavour or whether a malisious web page had replaced the originally downloaded DRM file with a hacked version. My solution at the time was
    to delete any Firefox folders in my /home/username area (e.g. ~/.mozilla/firefox). DRM was not too important to me, so I now just do
    not enable DRM.

    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enable-drm
    Firefox for desktop supports the Google Widevine CDM for playing DRM-controlled content.
    Disabling Google Widevine from the Add-ons Manager prevents it from
    running on your computer and prevents future updates from downloading.

    Please reply if you have had any such experiences.

    George.




    As watching video involves downloading the video, why not simply use
    yt-dlp to download the videos, and, watch the videos with your
    preference of video viewer?

    ..
    Bret Busby
    Armadale
    West Australia
    (UTC+0800)
    ..............

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  • From George at Clug@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 31 09:30:01 2025
    On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 18:57 Bret Busby wrote:
    On 31/1/25 14:50, George at Clug wrote:
    Does anyone use Firefox to watch DRM protected Video content?

    Is it normal for DRM to display lots of ads whenever Firefox is loaded?

    I did enable DRM once, a long time ago, and I started getting annoying
    ads whenever Firefox was loaded. It took a while for me to determine it was because of the DRM add-on. The DRM add-on was loaded into the user's file space. I do not know if displaying the ads was normal DRM add-on behavour or whether a malisious web page had replaced the originally downloaded DRM file with a hacked version. My solution at the time was
    to delete any Firefox folders in my /home/username area (e.g. ~/.mozilla/firefox). DRM was not too important to me, so I now just do
    not enable DRM.

    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enable-drm
    Firefox for desktop supports the Google Widevine CDM for playing DRM-controlled content.
    Disabling Google Widevine from the Add-ons Manager prevents it from running on your computer and prevents future updates from downloading.

    Please reply if you have had any such experiences.

    George.




    As watching video involves downloading the video, why not simply use
    yt-dlp to download the videos, and, watch the videos with your
    preference of video viewer?

    Good question !

    I have two answers (which might not be good answers, if so someone may be able to correct me)

    1) For some time now yt-dlp has been unable to download videos which I wanted to download.

    2) I only know how to download Youtube videos with yt-dlp, and the videos that I wanted to watch were not from Youtube.

    Question: can yt-dlp download DRM protected videos?

    George.



    ..
    Bret Busby
    Armadale
    West Australia
    (UTC+0800)
    ..............



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  • From Henrik Ahlgren@21:1/5 to George at Clug on Fri Jan 31 10:50:02 2025
    On Fri, 2025-01-31 at 19:24 +1100, George at Clug wrote:
    I have two answers (which might not be good answers, if so someone may be able to correct me)

    1) For some time now yt-dlp has been unable to download videos which I wanted to download.

    If you're on Debian Stable, please be aware that the version of yt-dlp (2023.03.04-1) is really ancient and not feasible with YouTube as of today.
    You need to install more recent version from bookworm-backports and keep it up-to-date.

    2) I only know how to download Youtube videos with yt-dlp, and the videos that I wanted to watch were not from Youtube.

    yt-dlp supports plenty of video services:

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    Viu, ViuOTTIndonesia, vk, VKPlay, VKPlayLive, vm.tiktok, Vocaroo,
    VODPl, VODPlatform, voicy, VolejTV, VoxMedia, VoxMediaVolume, vpro,
    VRT, VrtNU, VTM, VTV, VTVGo, VTXTV, VTXTVLive, VTXTVRecordings,
    VuClip, VVVVID, VVVVIDShow, Walla, WalyTV, WalyTVLive,
    WalyTVRecordings, washingtonpost, wat.tv, WatchESPN, WDR, WDRElefant,
    WDRPage, Webcamerapl, Webcaster, WebcasterFeed, WebOfStories, WebOfStoriesPlaylist, Weibo, WeiboUser, WeiboVideo, WeiqiTV,
    WeTvSeries, Weverse, WeverseLive, WeverseLiveTab, WeverseMedia, WeverseMediaTab, WeverseMoment, WeVidi, Weyyak, whowatch, Whyp,
    wikimedia.org, Wimbledon, WimTV, WinSportsVideo, Wistia,
    WistiaChannel, WistiaPlaylist, wnl, WorldStarHipHop, wppilot, WrestleUniversePPV, WrestleUniverseVOD, WSJ, WSJArticle, WWE,
    WyborczaPodcast, Xanimu, XboxClips, XHamster, XHamsterEmbed,
    XHamsterUser, XiaoHongShu, ximalaya, Xinpianchang, XMinus, XNXX,
    Xstream, XVideos, XXXYMovies, Yahoo, YandexDisk, YandexVideo, YandexVideoPreview, YapFiles, Yappy, YappyProfile, YleAreena, YouJizz,
    youku, YouNowChannel, YouNowLive, YouNowMoment, YouPorn,
    YouPornCategory, YouPornChannel, YouPornCollection, YouPornStar,
    YouPornTag, YouPornVideos, youtube, YoutubeLivestreamEmbed,
    YoutubeYtBe, Zaiko, ZaikoETicket, Zapiks, Zattoo, ZattooLive,
    ZattooMovies, ZattooRecordings, ZDF, ZDFChannel, Zee5, ZeeNews,
    ZenPorn, ZenYandex, ZenYandexChannel, ZetlandDKArticle, Zhihu,
    zingmp3, zoom, Zype, generic

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  • From George at Clug@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 31 11:30:01 2025
    On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 20:41 Henrik Ahlgren wrote:
    On Fri, 2025-01-31 at 19:24 +1100, George at Clug wrote:
    I have two answers (which might not be good answers, if so someone may be able to correct me)

    1) For some time now yt-dlp has been unable to download videos which I wanted to download.

    If you're on Debian Stable, please be aware that the version of yt-dlp (2023.03.04-1) is really ancient and not feasible with YouTube as of today. You need to install more recent version from bookworm-backports and keep it up-to-date.

    Thank you for that info.

    # apt -t bookworm-backports install yt-dlp youtubedl-gui

    And now I can successfully download videos from YouTube, either from command line or GUI.


    2) I only know how to download Youtube videos with yt-dlp, and the videos that I wanted to watch were not from Youtube.

    At the time the DRM video was on a news site, from memory.

    If I come across a DRM video again, I can check. However checking a few news site today, I do not know how to find the video's URL for me to use in downloading.

    It is good to be able download Youtube videos. Thanks.

    George.


    yt-dlp supports plenty of video services:

    7live, 1News, 1tv, 20min, 23video, 247sports, 24tv.ua, 3qsdn, 3sat,
    4tube, 56.com, 6play, 7plus, 8tracks, 9c9media, 9gag, 9News,
    9now.com.au, abc.net.au, abcnews, abcotvs, AbemaTV, AbemaTVTitle,
    acast, AcFunBangumi, AcFunVideo, ADN, ADNSeason, AdobeConnect,
    adobetv, AdultSwim, aenetworks, AeonCo, AirTV, AitubeKZVideo,
    AliExpressLive, AlJazeera, Allocine, Allstar, AllstarProfile,
    AlphaPorno, Alsace20TV, Alsace20TVEmbed, altcensored, Alura,
    AluraCourse, AmadeusTV, Amara, AmazonMiniTV, AmazonReviews,
    AmazonStore, AMCNetworks, AmericasTestKitchen,
    AmericasTestKitchenSeason, AmHistoryChannel, AnchorFMEpisode,
    anderetijden, Angel, AnimalPlanet, Anvato, aol.com, APA, Aparat, AppleConnect, AppleDaily, ApplePodcasts, appletrailers, archive.org, ArcPublishing, ARD, ARDMediathek, ARDMediathekCollection, Arkena,
    Art19, Art19Show, arte.sky.it, ArteTV, ArteTVCategory, ArteTVEmbed, ArteTVPlaylist, asobichannel, AsobiStage, AtresPlayer,
    AtScaleConfEvent, ATVAt, AudiMedia, AudioBoom, audiomack, Audius,
    AWAAN, axs.tv, AZMedien, BaiduVideo, BanBye, BanByeChannel,
    bandaichannel, Bandcamp, Bandlab, BandlabPlaylist, BannedVideo, bbc, bbc.co.uk, BBVTV, BBVTVLive, BBVTVRecordings, BeaconTv,
    BeatBumpPlaylist, BeatBumpVideo, Beatport, Beeg, BehindKink, Bellator, BellMedia, BerufeTV, Bet, bfmtv, Bigflix, Bigo, Bild, BiliBili,
    Bilibili category extractor, BilibiliAudio, BilibiliAudioAlbum, BiliBiliBangumi, BiliBiliBangumiMedia, BiliBiliBangumiSeason,
    BilibiliCheese, BilibiliCheeseSeason, BilibiliCollectionList, BilibiliFavoritesList, BiliBiliPlayer, BilibiliPlaylist,
    BiliBiliSearch, BilibiliSeriesList, BilibiliSpaceAudio,
    BilibiliSpaceVideo, BilibiliWatchlater, BiliIntl, BiliLive,
    BioBioChileTV, Biography, BitChute, BitChuteChannel,
    BlackboardCollaborate, BleacherReport, BleacherReportCMS, blerp,
    blogger.com, Bloomberg, Bluesky, BokeCC, BongaCams, Boosty,
    BostonGlobe, Box, BoxCastVideo, Bpb, BR, BrainPOP, BrainPOPELL,
    BrainPOPEsp, BrainPOPFr, BrainPOPIl, BrainPOPJr, BravoTV, BreitBart, Bundesliga, Bundestag, BusinessInsider, BuzzFeed, BYUtv, CaffeineTV,
    Callin, Caltrans, CAM4, Camdemy, CamdemyFolder, CamFMEpisode,
    CamFMShow, CamModels, Camsoda, CamtasiaEmbed, Canal1, CanalAlpha,
    canalc2.tv, Canalplus, CaracolTvPlay, CartoonNetwork, cbc.ca, CBS,
    CBSLocal, CBSLocalArticle, CBSLocalLive, cbsnews, cbssports, CCMA,
    CCTV, CDA, CDAFolder, Cellebrite, CeskaTelevize, CGTN, CharlieRose, Chaturbate, Chilloutzone, cielotv.it, Cinemax, CinetecaMilano,
    Cineverse, CineverseDetails, CiscoLiveSearch, CiscoLiveSession,
    ciscowebex, CJSW, Clipchamp, Clippit, ClipRs, ClipYouEmbed,
    CloserToTruth, CloudflareStream, CloudyCDN, Clubic, Clyp, cmt.com,
    CNBCVideo, CNN, CNNIndonesia, ComedyCentral, ComedyCentralTV,
    ConanClassic, CondeNast, CONtv, CookingChannel, Corus, Coub, CozyTV,
    cp24, cpac, Cracked, Crackle, Craftsy, CrooksAndLiars, CrowdBunker, CrowdBunkerChannel, Crtvg, crunchyroll, CSpan, CSpanCongress, CtsNews,
    CTV, CTVNews, cu.ntv.co.jp, CultureUnplugged, curiositystream, CWTV,
    Cybrary, CybraryCourse, DacastPlaylist, DacastVOD, DagelijkseKost,
    DailyMail, dailymotion, DailyWire, DailyWirePodcast, dangalplay,
    daum.net, DBTV, DctpTv, DeezerAlbum, DeezerPlaylist, democracynow, DestinationAmerica, DetikEmbed, DeuxM, DeuxMNews, DHM,
    DigitalConcertHall, DigitallySpeaking, Digiteka,
    DiscogsReleasePlaylist, DiscoveryLife, DiscoveryNetworksDe,
    DiscoveryPlus, DiscoveryPlusIndia, DiscoveryPlusIndiaShow, DiscoveryPlusItaly, DiscoveryPlusItalyShow, Disney, dlf, Douyin,
    DouyuShow, DouyuTV, DPlay, DRBonanza, Drooble, Dropbox, Dropout, DropoutSeason, DrTalks, DrTuber, drtv, DTube, duboku, Dumpert,
    Duoplay, dvtv, dw, EaglePlatform, EbaumsWorld, Ebay, EinsUndEinsTV, EinsUndEinsTVLive, EinsUndEinsTVRecordings, eitb.tv, ElementorEmbed,
    Elonet, ElPais, ElTreceTV, Embedly, EMPFlix, Epicon, EpiconSeries, EpidemicSound, eplus, Epoch, Eporner, Erocast, EroProfile, ERRJupiter, ertflix, ESPN, ESPNArticle, ESPNCricInfo, EttuTv, Europa,
    EuroParlWebstream, EuropeanTour, Eurosport, EUScreen, EWETV,
    EWETVLive, EWETVRecordings, Expressen, EyedoTV, facebook, FacebookPluginsVideo, Fathom, faz.net, fc2, Fczenit, Fifa, filmon,
    Filmweb, FiveThirtyEight, FiveTV, FlexTV, Flickr, Floatplane, FloatplaneChannel, Folketinget, FoodNetwork, FootyRoom, Formula1, FOX,
    FOX9, FOX9News, foxnews, FoxNewsVideo, FoxSports, fptplay,
    FranceCulture, FranceInter, FranceTV, francetvinfo.fr, FranceTVSite, Freesound, freespeech.org, FreeTvMovies, FrontendMasters, FrontendMastersCourse, FrontendMastersLesson, FujiTVFODPlus7,
    Funimation, Funk, Funker530, Fux, FuyinTV, Gab, GabTV, Gaia, GameDevTVDashboard, GameJolt, GameJoltCommunity, GameJoltGame, GameJoltGameSoundtrack, GameJoltSearch, GameJoltUser, GameSpot,
    GameStar, Gaskrank, Gazeta, GBNews, GDCVault, GediDigital, gem.cbc.ca, generic, Genius, GeniusLyrics, Germanupa, GetCourseRu,
    GetCourseRuPlayer, Gettr, GettrStreaming, GiantBomb, GlattvisionTV, GlattvisionTVLive, GlattvisionTVRecordings, Glide, GlobalPlayerAudio, GlobalPlayerAudioEpisode, GlobalPlayerLive, GlobalPlayerLivePlaylist, GlobalPlayerVideo, Globo, GloboArticle, glomex, GMANetworkVideo, Go, GoDiscovery, GodResource, GodTube, Gofile, Golem, GoogleDrive, GoPlay,
    GoPro, Goshgay, GoToStage, GPUTechConf, Graspop, Gronkh, Groupon,
    Harpodeon, hbo, HearThisAt, Heise, HellPorno, hetklokhuis, HGTVDe,
    HGTVUsa, HiDive, HistoricFilms, HitRecord, hketv, HollywoodReporter, HollywoodReporterPlaylist, Holodex, HotNewHipHop, hotstar,
    hrfernsehen, HRTi, HRTiPlaylist, HSEProduct, HSEShow, html5, Huajiao, HuffPost, Hungama, HungamaAlbumPlaylist, HungamaSong, Hypem, Hytale,
    Icareus, IdolPlus, IflixSeries, ign.com, IGNArticle, IGNVideo,
    iheartradio, IlPost, Iltalehti, imdb, Imgur, Ina, Inc, IndavideoEmbed,
    InfoQ, Instagram, InstagramIOS, Internazionale, InternetVideoArchive, InvestigationDiscovery, IPrima, IPrimaCNN, iq.com, iqiyi,
    IslamChannel, IslamChannelSeries, IsraelNationalNews, ITProTV,
    ITProTVCourse, ITV, ITVBTCC, ivi, ivideon, IVXPlayer, iwara, Ixigua, Izlesene, Jamendo, JamendoAlbum, JeuxVideo, jiocinema, Joj, JoqrAg,
    Jove, JStream, JTBC, JWPlatform, Kakao, Kaltura, KankaNews, Karaoketv, Katsomo, KelbyOne, Kenh14Playlist, Kenh14Video, Ketnet, khanacademy,
    Kicker, KickStarter, Kika, KinoPoisk, Kommunetv, KompasVideo, Koo,
    KrasView, KTH, Ku6, KukuluLive, la7.it, laracasts, LastFM,
    LastFMPlaylist, LastFMUser, LaXarxaMes, lbry, LCI, Lcp, LcpPlay, Le, LearningOnScreen, Lecture2Go, Lecturio, LecturioCourse,
    LecturioDeCourse, LeFigaroVideoEmbed, LeFigaroVideoSection, LEGO,
    Lemonde, Lenta, LePlaylist, LetvCloud, Libsyn, life, likee, limelight, LinkedIn, Liputan6, ListenNotes, LiTV, LiveJournal, livestream, Livestreamfails, Lnk, loc, loom, LoveHomePorn, LRTStream, LRTVOD,
    LSMLREmbed, LSMLTVEmbed, LSMReplay, Lumni, lynda, maariv.co.il,
    MagellanTV, MagentaMusik, mailru, MainStreaming, MangoTV, ManotoTV, ManotoTVLive, ManotoTVShow, ManyVids, MaoriTV, Markiza, MarkizaPage, massengeschmack.tv, Masters, MatchTV, MBN, MDR, MedalTV, media.ccc.de, Mediaite, MediaKlikk, Medialaan, Mediaset, MediasetShow, Mediasite, MediasiteCatalog, MediasiteNamedCatalog, MediaStream, MediaWorksNZVOD, Medici, megaphone.fm, megatvcom, Meipai, MelonVOD, Metacritic,
    mewatch, MicrosoftBuild, MicrosoftEmbed, MicrosoftLearnEpisode, MicrosoftLearnPlaylist, MicrosoftLearnSession, MicrosoftMedius, microsoftstream, minds, Minoto, mirrativ, MirrorCoUK, MiTele, mixch, mixcloud, MLB, MLBArticle, MLBTV, MLBVideo, MLSSoccer, MNetTV,
    MNetTVLive, MNetTVRecordings, MochaVideo, Mojevideo, Mojvideo,
    Monstercat, MonsterSirenHypergryphMusic, Motherless,
    MotherlessGallery, MotherlessGroup, MotherlessUploader, Motorsport,
    MovieFap, Moviepilot, MoviewPlay, Moviezine, MovingImage, MSN, mtg,
    mtv, mtv.de, mtv.it, mtvjapan, MTVUutisetArticle, MuenchenTV,
    MujRozhlas, Murrtube, MurrtubeUser, MuseAI, MuseScore, MusicdexAlbum, MusicdexArtist, MusicdexPlaylist, MusicdexSong, Mx3, Mx3Neo,
    Mx3Volksmusik, Mxplayer, MxplayerShow, MySpace, MySpass, MyVideoGe, MyVidster, Mzaalo, n-tv.de, N1InfoAsset, Nate, NateProgram, NationalGeographicTV, Naver, navernow, nba, NBC, NBCNews, nbcolympics, NBCSports, NBCSportsStream, NBCSportsVPlayer, NBCStations, ndr, NDTV, NekoHacker, NerdCubedFeed, NetPlusTV, NetPlusTVLive,
    NetPlusTVRecordings, Netverse, NetversePlaylist, NetverseSearch,
    Netzkino, Newgrounds, NewsPicks, Newsy, NextMedia,
    NextMediaActionNews, NextTV, Nexx, NexxEmbed, nfb, NFHSNetwork,
    nfl.com, NhkForSchoolBangumi, NhkForSchoolProgramList,
    NhkForSchoolSubject, NhkRadioNewsPage, NhkRadiru, NhkRadiruLive,
    NhkVod, NhkVodProgram, nhl.com, nick.com, nick.de, nickelodeonru,
    niconico, NiconicoChannelPlus, NiconicoUser, NinaProtocol, Nintendo,
    Nitter, njoy, NobelPrize, NoicePodcast, NonkTube, NoodleMagazine,
    Noovo, NOSNLArticle, Nova, NovaEmbed, NovaPlay, nowness, Noz, npo,
    Npr, NRK, NRKPlaylist, NRKRadioPodkast, NRKSkole, NRKTV, NRKTVDirekte, NRKTVEpisode, NRKTVEpisodes, NRKTVSeason, NRKTVSeries, NRLTV,
    nts.live, ntv.ru, NubilesPorn, Nuvid, NYTimes, NYTimesArticle, NYTimesCookingGuide, NYTimesCookingRecipe, nzherald, NZOnScreen, NZZ, ocw.mit.edu, Odnoklassniki, OfTV, OfTVPlaylist, OktoberfestTV, OlympicsReplay, on24, OnDemandChinaEpisode, OnDemandKorea, OnDemandKoreaProgram, OneFootball, OnePlacePodcast, onet.pl, onet.tv, OnetMVP, OnionStudios, Opencast, OpencastPlaylist, openrec, OraTV,
    OsnatelTV, OsnatelTVLive, OsnatelTVRecordings, OutsideTV, OwnCloud,
    PacktPub, PacktPubCourse, Panopto, PanoptoList, PanoptoPlaylist, ParamountNetwork, ParamountPlus, ParamountPlusSeries,
    ParamountPressExpress, Parler, parliamentlive.tv, Parlview, patreon,
    pbs, PBSKids, PearVideo, PeekVids, peer.tv, PeerTube, peloton,
    PerformGroup, periscope, PGATour, PhilharmonieDeParis, phoenix.de, Photobucket, PiaLive, Piapro, Picarto, PicartoVod, Piksel, Pinkbike, Pinterest, PinterestCollection, Pladform, PlanetMarathi, Platzi, PlatziCourse, player.sky.it, playeur, PlayPlusTV, PlaySuisse,
    Playtvak, PlayVids, Playwire, pluralsight, PlutoTV, PlVideo, PodbayFM, PodbayFMChannel, Podchaser, podomatic, PokerGo, PokerGoCollection,
    PolsatGo, PolskieRadio, Popcorntimes, PopcornTV, Pornbox, PornerBros, PornFlip, PornHub, PornHubPagedVideoList, PornHubPlaylist,
    PornHubUser, PornHubUserVideosUpload, Pornotube, PornoVoisines,
    PornoXO, PornTop, PornTube, Pr0gramm, PrankCast, PrankCastPost, PremiershipRugby, PressTV, ProjectVeritas, prosiebensat1, PRXAccount, PRXSeries, PRXStory, puhutv, Puls4, Pyvideo, QDance, QingTing,
    qqmusic, QuantumTV, QuantumTVLive, QuantumTVRecordings, R7, R7Article, Radiko, RadikoRadio, radio.de, Radio1Be, radiocanada, RadioComercial, RadioComercialPlaylist, radiofrance, RadioFranceLive,
    RadioFrancePodcast, RadioFranceProfile, RadioFranceProgramSchedule, RadioJavan, radiokapital, RadioRadicale, RadioZetPodcast, radlive,
    Rai, RaiCultura, RaiNews, RaiPlay, RaiPlayLive, RaiPlayPlaylist, RaiPlaySound, RaiPlaySoundLive, RaiPlaySoundPlaylist, RaiSudtirol, RayWenderlich, RayWenderlichCourse, RbgTum, RbgTumCourse,
    RbgTumNewCourse, RCS, RCSEmbeds, RCSVarious, RCTIPlus, RCTIPlusSeries, RCTIPlusTV, RDS, RedBull, RedBullEmbed, RedBullTV,
    RedBullTVRrnContent, redcdnlivx, Reddit, RedGifs, RedGifsSearch,
    RedGifsUser, RedTube, RENTV, RENTVArticle, Restudy, Reuters,
    ReverbNation, RheinMainTV, RideHome, RinseFM, RinseFMArtistPlaylist, RMCDecouverte, RockstarGames, Rokfin, RoosterTeeth,
    RoosterTeethSeries, RottenTomatoes, Rozhlas, RozhlasVltava, RTBF, RTDocumentry, RTDocumentryPlaylist, rte, rtl.nl, rtl2, RTLLuLive,
    RTLLuRadio, RTNews, RTP, RTRFM, RTS, RTVCKaltura, RTVCPlay,
    RTVCPlayEmbed, RTVS, rtvslo.si, RudoVideo, Rule34Video, Rumble, RumbleChannel, RumbleEmbed, Ruptly, rutube, RUTV, Ruutu, Ruv, S4C,
    S4CSeries, safari, Saitosan, SAKTV, SAKTVLive, SAKTVRecordings,
    SaltTV, SaltTVLive, SaltTVRecordings, SampleFocus, Sangiin, Sapo, SBS, sbs.co.kr, schooltv, ScienceChannel, Screen9, Screencast,
    Screencastify, ScreencastOMatic, ScreenRec, ScrippsNetworks,
    Scrolller, SCTE, SCTECourse, sejm, Sen, SenalColombiaLive, SenateGov, SenateISVP, SendtoNews, Servus, Sexu, SeznamZpravy,
    SeznamZpravyArticle, Shahid, ShahidShow, SharePoint, ShareVideosEmbed, ShemarooMe, ShowRoomLive, ShugiinItvLive, ShugiinItvLiveRoom,
    ShugiinItvVod, SibnetEmbed, simplecast, Sina, Skeb, sky.it,
    SkylineWebcams, SkyNewsAU, Slideshare, SlidesLive, Slutload, Smotrim, SnapchatSpotlight, Snotr, Sohu, SohuV, SonyLIV, SonyLIVSeries, soop, soundcloud, SoundcloudEmbed, soundgasm, southpark.cc.com,
    southpark.de, southpark.lat, southpark.nl, southparkstudios.dk, SovietsCloset, SovietsClosetPlaylist, SpankBang, SpankBangPlaylist,
    Spiegel, Sport5, SportBox, SportDeutschland, spotify, Spreaker,
    SpreakerShow, SpringboardPlatform, Sprout, SproutVideo, SRGSSR,
    SRGSSRPlay, StacommuLive, StacommuVOD, StagePlusVODConcert,
    stanfordoc, StarTrek, startv, Steam, SteamCommunityBroadcast,
    Stitcher, StitcherShow, StoryFire, StoryFireSeries, StoryFireUser, Streamable, StreamCZ, StreetVoice, StretchInternet, Stripchat,
    Substack, SunPorno, SVT, SVTPage, SVTPlay, SVTSeries, SwearnetEpisode,
    Syfy, SYVDK, SztvHu, t-online.de, Tagesschau, TapTapApp,
    TapTapAppIntl, TapTapMoment, TapTapPostIntl, Tass, TBS, TBSJPEpisode, TBSJPPlaylist, TBSJPProgram, Teachable, TeachableCourse, teachertube, TeachingChannel, Teamcoco, TeamTreeHouse, techtv.mit.edu, TedEmbed, TedPlaylist, TedSeries, TedTalk, Tele13, Tele5, TeleBruxelles, TelecaribePlay, Telecinco, Telegraaf, TeleMB, Telemundo, TeleQuebec, TeleQuebecEmission, TeleQuebecLive, TeleQuebecSquat, TeleQuebecVideo, TeleTask, Telewebion, Tempo, TennisTV, TenPlay, TenPlaySeason, TF1,
    TFO, TheGuardianPodcast, TheGuardianPodcastPlaylist, TheHoleTv,
    TheIntercept, ThePlatform, ThePlatformFeed, TheStar, TheSun, TheWeatherChannel, ThisAmericanLife, ThisOldHouse, ThisVid,
    ThisVidMember, ThisVidPlaylist, ThreeSpeak, ThreeSpeakUser, TikTok,
    TLC, TMZ, TNAFlix, TNAFlixNetworkEmbed, toggle, toggo, ToonGoggles,
    tou.tv, Toypics, ToypicsUser, TrailerAddict, TravelChannel, Triller, TrillerShort, TrillerUser, Trovo, TrovoChannelClip, TrovoChannelVod, TrovoVod, TrtCocukVideo, TrtWorld, TrueID, TruNews, Truth, TruTV,
    Tube8, TubeTuGraz, TubeTuGrazSeries, tubitv, Tumblr, TuneInPodcast, TuneInPodcastEpisode, TuneInStation, tv.dfb.de, TV2, TV2Article,
    TV2DK, TV2DKBornholmPlay, tv2play.hu, tv2playseries.hu, TV4, TV5MONDE, tv5unis, tv8.it, TVANouvelles, TVANouvellesArticle, tvaplus, TVC,
    TVCArticle, TVer, tvigle, TVIPlayer, tvland.com, TVN24, TVNoe, tvp,
    TVPlayer, TVPlayHome, Tweakers, TwitCasting, TwitCastingLive, TwitCastingUser, TwitchCollection, TwitchVideos, TwitchVideosClips, TwitchVideosCollections, twitter, Txxx, udemy, UDNEmbed, UFCArabia,
    UFCTV, ukcolumn, UKTVPlay, UlizaPlayer, UlizaPortal, Unistra, Unity, uol.com.br, uplynk, Urort, URPlay, USANetwork, USAToday, ustream,
    ustudio, Varzesh3, Vbox7, Veo, Vesti, Vevo, VevoPlaylist, VGTV,
    vh1.com, vice, Viddler, Videa, video.arnes.si, video.sky.it,
    VideoDetective, videofy.me, VideoKen, VideoKenCategory,
    VideoKenPlayer, VideoKenPlaylist, VideoKenTopic, videomore,
    VideoPress, Vidflex, Vidio, VidioLive, VidioPremier, VidLii, Vidly,
    vids.io, Vidyard, viewlift, Viidea, viki, vimeo, ViMP, Viously, Viqeo,
    Viu, ViuOTTIndonesia, vk, VKPlay, VKPlayLive, vm.tiktok, Vocaroo,
    VODPl, VODPlatform, voicy, VolejTV, VoxMedia, VoxMediaVolume, vpro,
    VRT, VrtNU, VTM, VTV, VTVGo, VTXTV, VTXTVLive, VTXTVRecordings,
    VuClip, VVVVID, VVVVIDShow, Walla, WalyTV, WalyTVLive,
    WalyTVRecordings, washingtonpost, wat.tv, WatchESPN, WDR, WDRElefant, WDRPage, Webcamerapl, Webcaster, WebcasterFeed, WebOfStories, WebOfStoriesPlaylist, Weibo, WeiboUser, WeiboVideo, WeiqiTV,
    WeTvSeries, Weverse, WeverseLive, WeverseLiveTab, WeverseMedia, WeverseMediaTab, WeverseMoment, WeVidi, Weyyak, whowatch, Whyp, wikimedia.org, Wimbledon, WimTV, WinSportsVideo, Wistia,
    WistiaChannel, WistiaPlaylist, wnl, WorldStarHipHop, wppilot, WrestleUniversePPV, WrestleUniverseVOD, WSJ, WSJArticle, WWE, WyborczaPodcast, Xanimu, XboxClips, XHamster, XHamsterEmbed,
    XHamsterUser, XiaoHongShu, ximalaya, Xinpianchang, XMinus, XNXX,
    Xstream, XVideos, XXXYMovies, Yahoo, YandexDisk, YandexVideo, YandexVideoPreview, YapFiles, Yappy, YappyProfile, YleAreena, YouJizz,
    youku, YouNowChannel, YouNowLive, YouNowMoment, YouPorn,
    YouPornCategory, YouPornChannel, YouPornCollection, YouPornStar,
    YouPornTag, YouPornVideos, youtube, YoutubeLivestreamEmbed,
    YoutubeYtBe, Zaiko, ZaikoETicket, Zapiks, Zattoo, ZattooLive,
    ZattooMovies, ZattooRecordings, ZDF, ZDFChannel, Zee5, ZeeNews,
    ZenPorn, ZenYandex, ZenYandexChannel, ZetlandDKArticle, Zhihu,
    zingmp3, zoom, Zype, generic



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  • From George at Clug@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 31 11:50:02 2025
    On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 21:30 Bret Busby wrote:
    On 31/1/25 16:24, George at Clug wrote:


    On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 18:57 Bret Busby wrote:
    On 31/1/25 14:50, George at Clug wrote:
    Does anyone use Firefox to watch DRM protected Video content?

    Is it normal for DRM to display lots of ads whenever Firefox is loaded? >>>
    I did enable DRM once, a long time ago, and I started getting annoying >>> ads whenever Firefox was loaded. It took a while for me to determine it >>> was because of the DRM add-on. The DRM add-on was loaded into the user's >>> file space. I do not know if displaying the ads was normal DRM add-on
    behavour or whether a malisious web page had replaced the originally
    downloaded DRM file with a hacked version. My solution at the time was >>> to delete any Firefox folders in my /home/username area (e.g.
    ~/.mozilla/firefox). DRM was not too important to me, so I now just do >>> not enable DRM.

    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enable-drm
    Firefox for desktop supports the Google Widevine CDM for playing
    DRM-controlled content.
    Disabling Google Widevine from the Add-ons Manager prevents it from
    running on your computer and prevents future updates from downloading. >>>
    Please reply if you have had any such experiences.

    George.




    As watching video involves downloading the video, why not simply use
    yt-dlp to download the videos, and, watch the videos with your
    preference of video viewer?

    Good question !

    I have two answers (which might not be good answers, if so someone may be able to correct me)

    1) For some time now yt-dlp has been unable to download videos which I wanted to download.

    2) I only know how to download Youtube videos with yt-dlp, and the videos that I wanted to watch were not from Youtube.

    Question: can yt-dlp download DRM protected videos?

    George.


    In answer to 2 and the unnumbered question, it seems to work (for the
    most part) for me.

    I have multiple add-ons/plugins installed in Firefox, including for downloading videos, so, I generally try another one, is I have problems.

    The only videos that I watch within the web browser, are some youtube videos, for the subtitles, as I have a hearing disability, that stops me from being able to easily hear most people speaking.

    If you want to retain a copy of a video for later reference, I recommend OBS Studio to capture video and audio of what is being played. That way you could capture the subtitles as well.


    Plugins/add-ons exist, for blocking advertising, and for other system protection,including (but not limited to) Bluhell Firewall, uBlock
    Origins, etc, with some such blockers, specific to youtube. I have
    multiple of them installed.

    I do not have DRM enabled, and, if I see a message displayed saying something like "You need to have DRM enabled in order to view this
    video", I simply work around it, and, use a downloader to overcome it.

    ..
    Bret Busby
    Armadale
    West Australia
    (UTC+0800)
    ..............



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  • From George at Clug@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 31 12:00:02 2025
    On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 21:42 Bret Busby wrote:
    On 31/1/25 18:19, George at Clug wrote:


    On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 20:41 Henrik Ahlgren wrote:
    On Fri, 2025-01-31 at 19:24 +1100, George at Clug wrote:
    I have two answers (which might not be good answers, if so someone may be able to correct me)

    1) For some time now yt-dlp has been unable to download videos which I wanted to download.

    If you're on Debian Stable, please be aware that the version of yt-dlp
    (2023.03.04-1) is really ancient and not feasible with YouTube as of today.
    You need to install more recent version from bookworm-backports and keep it
    up-to-date.

    Thank you for that info.

    # apt -t bookworm-backports install yt-dlp youtubedl-gui

    And now I can successfully download videos from YouTube, either from command line or GUI.


    yt-dlp --version
    2025.01.15

    What does yours show?

    The same (now that I am using backports):
    $ yt-dlp --version
    2025.01.15




    (also, I note, for me to try next time, --write-auto-subs)


    ..
    Bret Busby
    Armadale
    West Australia
    (UTC+0800)
    ..............



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  • From Bret Busby@21:1/5 to George at Clug on Fri Jan 31 11:40:01 2025
    On 31/1/25 16:24, George at Clug wrote:


    On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 18:57 Bret Busby wrote:
    On 31/1/25 14:50, George at Clug wrote:
    Does anyone use Firefox to watch DRM protected Video content?

    Is it normal for DRM to display lots of ads whenever Firefox is loaded?

    I did enable DRM once, a long time ago, and I started getting annoying
    ads whenever Firefox was loaded. It took a while for me to determine it
    was because of the DRM add-on. The DRM add-on was loaded into the user's >>> file space. I do not know if displaying the ads was normal DRM add-on
    behavour or whether a malisious web page had replaced the originally
    downloaded DRM file with a hacked version. My solution at the time was
    to delete any Firefox folders in my /home/username area (e.g.
    ~/.mozilla/firefox). DRM was not too important to me, so I now just do
    not enable DRM.

    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enable-drm
    Firefox for desktop supports the Google Widevine CDM for playing
    DRM-controlled content.
    Disabling Google Widevine from the Add-ons Manager prevents it from
    running on your computer and prevents future updates from downloading.

    Please reply if you have had any such experiences.

    George.




    As watching video involves downloading the video, why not simply use
    yt-dlp to download the videos, and, watch the videos with your
    preference of video viewer?

    Good question !

    I have two answers (which might not be good answers, if so someone may be able to correct me)

    1) For some time now yt-dlp has been unable to download videos which I wanted to download.

    2) I only know how to download Youtube videos with yt-dlp, and the videos that I wanted to watch were not from Youtube.

    Question: can yt-dlp download DRM protected videos?

    George.


    In answer to 2 and the unnumbered question, it seems to work (for the
    most part) for me.

    I have multiple add-ons/plugins installed in Firefox, including for
    downloading videos, so, I generally try another one, is I have problems.

    The only videos that I watch within the web browser, are some youtube
    videos, for the subtitles, as I have a hearing disability, that stops me
    from being able to easily hear most people speaking.

    Plugins/add-ons exist, for blocking advertising, and for other system protection,including (but not limited to) Bluhell Firewall, uBlock
    Origins, etc, with some such blockers, specific to youtube. I have
    multiple of them installed.

    I do not have DRM enabled, and, if I see a message displayed saying
    something like "You need to have DRM enabled in order to view this
    video", I simply work around it, and, use a downloader to overcome it.

    ..
    Bret Busby
    Armadale
    West Australia
    (UTC+0800)
    ..............

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  • From Bret Busby@21:1/5 to George at Clug on Fri Jan 31 11:50:02 2025
    On 31/1/25 18:19, George at Clug wrote:


    On Friday, 31-01-2025 at 20:41 Henrik Ahlgren wrote:
    On Fri, 2025-01-31 at 19:24 +1100, George at Clug wrote:
    I have two answers (which might not be good answers, if so someone may be able to correct me)

    1) For some time now yt-dlp has been unable to download videos which I wanted to download.

    If you're on Debian Stable, please be aware that the version of yt-dlp
    (2023.03.04-1) is really ancient and not feasible with YouTube as of today. >> You need to install more recent version from bookworm-backports and keep it >> up-to-date.

    Thank you for that info.

    # apt -t bookworm-backports install yt-dlp youtubedl-gui

    And now I can successfully download videos from YouTube, either from command line or GUI.


    yt-dlp --version
    2025.01.15

    What does yours show?

    (also, I note, for me to try next time, --write-auto-subs)


    ..
    Bret Busby
    Armadale
    West Australia
    (UTC+0800)
    ..............

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  • From Henrik Ahlgren@21:1/5 to George at Clug on Fri Jan 31 13:20:01 2025
    On Fri, 2025-01-31 at 21:53 +1100, George at Clug wrote:


    The same (now that I am using backports):
    $ yt-dlp --version
    2025.01.15

    Due to the nature of this program (Google plays the cat and mouse
    game), new versions are released fairly frequently. In fact, 2025.01.26
    just landed in bookworm-backports today.

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  • From Roger Price@21:1/5 to Henrik Ahlgren on Fri Jan 31 18:00:01 2025
    This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,
    while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

    On Fri, 31 Jan 2025, Henrik Ahlgren wrote:

    On Fri, 2025-01-31 at 21:53 +1100, George at Clug wrote:
    The same (now that I am using backports):
    $ yt-dlp --version
    2025.01.15

    In fact, 2025.01.26 just landed in bookworm-backports today.

    I followed the instructions for synaptic at https://wiki.debian.org and added the repository

    deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports main contrib non-free

    I clicked on ¨Reload" to reload the package listings and searched for yt-dlp. The installed and latest versions are both given as 2023.03.04-1 .

    How do you get to the bookworm-backports ?

    Roger

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  • From Roy J. Tellason, Sr.@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 31 18:20:01 2025
    On Friday 31 January 2025 01:50:52 am George at Clug wrote:
    Does anyone use Firefox to watch DRM protected Video content?

    Is it normal for DRM to display lots of ads whenever Firefox is
    loaded?

    I did enable DRM once, a long time ago, and I started getting annoying
    ads whenever Firefox was loaded. It took a while for me to determine
    it was because of the DRM add-on. The DRM add-on was loaded into the
    user's file space. I do not know if displaying the ads was normal DRM
    add-on behavour or whether a malisious web page had replaced the
    originally downloaded DRM file with a hacked version. My solution at
    the time was to delete any Firefox folders in my /home/username area
    (e.g. ~/.mozilla/firefox). DRM was not too important to me, so I now
    just do not enable DRM.�


    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enable-drm
    Firefox for desktop supports the Google Widevine CDM for playing DRM-controlled content.

    Disabling Google Widevine from the Add-ons Manager prevents it from
    running on your computer and prevents future updates from downloading.


    Please reply if you have had any such experiences.

    I run firefox with a number of add-ons, including adblock plus, ublock origin, privacy badgerm and cookie autodelete. Not the most current version, but that will change once I complete the transition to the new machine.

    If I want to see something on the web, I'll look for it, and bring it up myself. That means that to me the web is a "pull" medium. Unfortunately there seems to be an awful lot of folks out there that consider the web to be a "push" medium, like
    traditional mass media advertising. But it just doesn't work that way. And those who choose to get really obnoxious about this stuff are those that I will eventually decide not to do any business with, given any kind of a choice. There was some guy,
    I can't remember his name, quoted in a magazine article some years back who grudgingly admitted that it was okay to record copyrighted material on your vcr for the purposes of time shifting it, but he said you really weren't allowed to fast forward
    past the commercials! Right...

    As far as DRM is concerned, I've never really had any desire to view such stuff. Very occasionally I'll get some sort of a popup telling me that I must enable DRM to view some of the content on the page that I've just loaded, or am in the process of
    loading. I will usually just close that popup without doing any enabling of the sort, and for the most part I don't have any problem viewing whatever media is on that page. My attitude toward this is that if they're gonna design their web page to make
    it more difficult to view things, that's their loss, and I will find my information elsewhere. Eventually maybe people will figure this out, and those who design web pages will get a clue, but that might take a long time. In the meantime there sure
    seems to be a lot of badly designed web stuff out there, and thankfully I can manage to avoid it for the most part.

    My most recent add-on is noscript. Some web pages simply won't work until you tell the noscript add-on that they're "trusted" (or perhaps "temp trusted"), at which point they work, sometimes it takes a bit more than that. In a few cases I get a
    banner across the bottom of the screen telling me that to use the site javascript must be enabled. But the page displays just fine, which has me wondering just what it is that they're trying to do with that javascript that I'm not running. These
    banners often being an annoying bright red, I'll typically remove them with the nuke anything add-on and that takes care of that. :-)

    --
    Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
    ablest -- form of life in this section of space, �a critter that can
    be killed but can't be tamed. �--Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
    -
    Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin

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  • From Henrik Ahlgren@21:1/5 to Roger Price on Fri Jan 31 18:50:01 2025
    On Fri, 2025-01-31 at 17:57 +0100, Roger Price wrote:
    I followed the instructions for synaptic at https://wiki.debian.org and added
    the repository

    deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports main contrib non-free

    I clicked on ¨Reload" to reload the package listings and searched for yt-dlp.
    The installed and latest versions are both given as 2023.03.04-1 .

    How do you get to the bookworm-backports ?

    Packages from backports are pinned with low priority (100) and never
    installed by default. So in order to install a backported package, you
    need to do it like:

    apt install yt-dlp/bookworm-backports

    Not sure how to do it in Synaptic.

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  • From George at Clug@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 31 22:30:01 2025
    On Saturday, 01-02-2025 at 03:57 Roger Price wrote:
    On Fri, 31 Jan 2025, Henrik Ahlgren wrote:

    On Fri, 2025-01-31 at 21:53 +1100, George at Clug wrote:
    The same (now that I am using backports):
    $ yt-dlp --version
    2025.01.15

    In fact, 2025.01.26 just landed in bookworm-backports today.

    I followed the instructions for synaptic at https://wiki.debian.org and added
    the repository

    deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports main contrib non-free

    I clicked on ¨Reload" to reload the package listings and searched for yt-dlp.
    The installed and latest versions are both given as 2023.03.04-1 .

    How do you get to the bookworm-backports ?

    Roger,

    I was not able to find a way to select and install backports from Synaptic. If someone can explain how, that would be helpful.

    I noticed that Synaptic was showing the installed version (whether the package was installed from stable or from backports.

    I wanted to install both yt-dlp youtubedl-gui

    As I already had these two packages installed from stable, I decided to uninstall the stable packages before installing the backports versions.
    # apt remove yt-dlp youtubedl-gui

    With backports repositories included in the /etc/apt/sources.list, I logged into a terminal as root, then I used the below method (which is a different syntax than that posted by others, but I believe it does the same thing):
    # apt -t bookworm-backports install yt-dlp youtubedl-gui

    You do not need to install youtubedl-gui but I found it to be a simple and effective GUI frontend to yt-dlp.

    You can find more details at:
    https://wiki.debian.org/Backports

    Example of Backports in /etc/apt/sources.list
    # bookworm-backports, previously on backports.debian.org
    deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware


    George.





    Roger


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  • From Roger Price@21:1/5 to George at Clug on Fri Jan 31 23:00:01 2025
    On Sat, 1 Feb 2025, George at Clug wrote:
    # apt remove yt-dlp youtubedl-gui

    I successfully removed yt-dlp and youtubedl-gui with this command.

    My sources.list contains the line

    deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports main contrib non-free

    Note the http and not https. Is this critical ?

    I tried the command

    apt -t bookworm-backports install yt-dlp youtubedl-gui

    and got the error message

    Reading package lists... Done
    E: The value 'bookworm-backports' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a
    release is not available in the sources

    Roger

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  • From Roger Price@21:1/5 to Eddie on Fri Jan 31 22:50:01 2025
    On Fri, 31 Jan 2025, Eddie wrote:
    On 1/31/25 12:40, Henrik Ahlgren wrote:
    Packages from backports are pinned with low priority (100) and never installed by default. So in order to install a backported package, you
    need to do it like:

    apt install yt-dlp/bookworm-backports

    Not sure how to do it in Synaptic.

    In Synaptic go to "Settings" - 'Preferences" - "Distributions"
    then select "Prefer Versions From" - backports

    I added the line

    deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ debian-backports main contrib non-free

    to /etc/apt/sources.list, ran apt update and got the error message

    root@maria ~ apt update
    Hit:1 ...
    Ign:5 http://deb.debian.org/debian debian-backports InRelease
    Err:7 http://deb.debian.org/debian debian-backports Release
    404 Not Found [IP: 151.101.2.132 80]
    Reading package lists... Done
    E: The repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian debian-backports Release' does
    not have a Release file.
    N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore
    disabled by default.
    N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration
    details.

    So when I go to "Synaptic -> Settings -> Preferences -> Distributions -> Prefer versions from", I see no backports.

    Should I add allow-insecure=yes or allow-downgrade-to-insecure=yes to sources.list, or is there some better way?

    Roger

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  • From George at Clug@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 31 23:00:01 2025
    On Saturday, 01-02-2025 at 08:41 Roger Price wrote:
    On Fri, 31 Jan 2025, Eddie wrote:
    On 1/31/25 12:40, Henrik Ahlgren wrote:
    Packages from backports are pinned with low priority (100) and never installed by default. So in order to install a backported package, you need to do it like:

    apt install yt-dlp/bookworm-backports

    Not sure how to do it in Synaptic.

    In Synaptic go to "Settings" - 'Preferences" - "Distributions"
    then select "Prefer Versions From" - backports

    I added the line

    deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ debian-backports main contrib non-free

    I guess just a simple mistake, but why did you use "debian-backports" ? Are you running bookworm? And thus use "bookworm-backports" ?

    I compared:
    deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ debian-backports main contrib non-free
    deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware

    (I also use non-free-firmware from time to time, so I include that too, but it is not necessary)

    https://wiki.debian.org/Backports
    Copy the repository below, then hit the "Add Source" button:
    deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports main contrib non-free

    George.



    to /etc/apt/sources.list, ran apt update and got the error message

    root@maria ~ apt update
    Hit:1 ...
    Ign:5 http://deb.debian.org/debian debian-backports InRelease
    Err:7 http://deb.debian.org/debian debian-backports Release
    404 Not Found [IP: 151.101.2.132 80]
    Reading package lists... Done
    E: The repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian debian-backports Release' does
    not have a Release file.
    N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore
    disabled by default.
    N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration
    details.

    So when I go to "Synaptic -> Settings -> Preferences -> Distributions -> Prefer
    versions from", I see no backports.

    Should I add allow-insecure=yes or allow-downgrade-to-insecure=yes to sources.list, or is there some better way?

    Roger



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  • From Roger Price@21:1/5 to Jeffrey Walton on Fri Jan 31 23:10:01 2025
    On Fri, 31 Jan 2025, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
    It is bookworm-backports, not debian-backports. See <https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList>.

    My error, I corrected my sources.list. Command apt update then ran correctly, and command

    root@maria ~ apt -t bookworm-backports install yt-dlp youtubedl-gui

    installed yt-dlp 2025.01.26-1~bpo12+1. Thanks, Roger

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  • From George at Clug@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 31 23:10:01 2025
    On Saturday, 01-02-2025 at 09:01 Roger Price wrote:
    On Fri, 31 Jan 2025, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
    It is bookworm-backports, not debian-backports. See <https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList>.

    My error, I corrected my sources.list. Command apt update then ran correctly,
    and command

    root@maria ~ apt -t bookworm-backports install yt-dlp youtubedl-gui

    installed yt-dlp 2025.01.26-1~bpo12+1. Thanks, Roger

    I am pleased that you have yt-dlp working.

    Apologies for not mentioning "apt update" after having modified the sources. I am pleased you worked that out. I appreciate it when others give me full and clear instructions, so I should do the same.

    George.




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  • From Charles Curley@21:1/5 to Roger Price on Fri Jan 31 23:20:01 2025
    On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 22:41:29 +0100 (CET)
    Roger Price <[email protected]> wrote:

    Should I add allow-insecure=yes or allow-downgrade-to-insecure=yes to sources.list, or is there some better way?

    Neither. Your line was incorrect. Also, best practice is to create a
    new file:

    root@hawk:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/backports.bookworm.list
    deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports main non-free-firmware root@hawk:~#


    --
    Does anybody read signatures any more?

    https://charlescurley.com
    https://charlescurley.com/blog/

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  • From David Wright@21:1/5 to Henrik Ahlgren on Sun Feb 2 05:30:01 2025
    On Fri 31 Jan 2025 at 14:06:57 (+0200), Henrik Ahlgren wrote:
    On Fri, 2025-01-31 at 21:53 +1100, George at Clug wrote:
    The same (now that I am using backports):
    $ yt-dlp --version
    2025.01.15

    Due to the nature of this program (Google plays the cat and mouse
    game), new versions are released fairly frequently. In fact, 2025.01.26
    just landed in bookworm-backports today.

    For this particular package, I don't follow any of the rules.
    I normally go to Debian's Packages webpage and download (with
    wget) the latest I can find, typically trixie's at this time.
    Today that page appears to be down, so I just headed to the
    pool and fished the link from:
    http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/y/yt-dlp/

    I installed it with:
    # apt -s install /home/debian/trixie/yt-dlp_2025.01.26-1_all.deb
    to check the dependencies (this is on bullseye), then deleted the -s.

    As it's the only "pseudo-backport" I use, it saves a lot of hassle
    with the sources list etc, installing it in this way.

    Cheers,
    David.

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