• Synaptic problem(s)

    From Richard Owlett@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 28 15:00:01 2024
    Running Debian 12.7 with MATE
    When launching Synaptic I get a message saying
    [ You have 1 broken package on your system!"
    Use the "Broken" filter to locate it. ]
    Synaptic's Help isn't helpful :{
    It also reports packages to be updated.

    Also started to install gnumeric and it wanted to remove some files I
    associate with printer drivers and also ghostscript.

    To investigate I searched for it and Synaptic had a red filled box to
    the left of its name.

    I did a power off/on restart. Still the same.

    What should I do now?
    I suspect using apt &/or cousins would be more informative.\
    Never used them.

    Help please.
    [ learned >60 years ago - If you don't know what you're doin *DON'T*!!!]

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  • From Andrew M.A. Cater@21:1/5 to Richard Owlett on Thu Nov 28 20:10:01 2024
    On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 07:55:37AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
    Running Debian 12.7 with MATE
    When launching Synaptic I get a message saying
    [ You have 1 broken package on your system!"
    Use the "Broken" filter to locate it. ]
    Synaptic's Help isn't helpful :{
    It also reports packages to be updated.


    Screenshot please Richard - if we can't see it, we can't diagnose it.

    Also started to install gnumeric and it wanted to remove some files I associate with printer drivers and also ghostscript.


    Details please.

    To investigate I searched for it and Synaptic had a red filled box to the left of its name.


    Synaptic is a front end to apt. Use command line apt to see what it
    reports?

    I did a power off/on restart. Still the same.


    What did you expect this would have fixed: nothing had changed.

    What should I do now?
    I suspect using apt &/or cousins would be more informative.\
    Never used them.


    You might find that the details of exactly what's broken would be more tractable, yes.
    Help please.
    [ learned >60 years ago - If you don't know what you're doin *DON'T*!!!]


    All best, as ever,

    Andy
    ([email protected])


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  • From David Wright@21:1/5 to Richard Owlett on Fri Nov 29 19:40:01 2024
    On Thu 28 Nov 2024 at 07:55:37 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
    Running Debian 12.7 with MATE
    When launching Synaptic I get a message saying
    [ You have 1 broken package on your system!"
    Use the "Broken" filter to locate it. ]
    Synaptic's Help isn't helpful :{
    It also reports packages to be updated.

    Also started to install gnumeric and it wanted to remove some files I associate with printer drivers and also ghostscript.

    To investigate I searched for it and Synaptic had a red filled box to
    the left of its name.

    I did a power off/on restart. Still the same.

    What should I do now?
    I suspect using apt &/or cousins would be more informative.\
    Never used them.

    Help please.
    [ learned >60 years ago - If you don't know what you're doin *DON'T*!!!]

    $ dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii '

    may give you an idea of which packages are broken.

    Cheers,
    David.

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  • From Joe@21:1/5 to David Wright on Fri Nov 29 20:40:01 2024
    On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 12:30:44 -0600
    David Wright <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Thu 28 Nov 2024 at 07:55:37 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
    Running Debian 12.7 with MATE
    When launching Synaptic I get a message saying
    [ You have 1 broken package on your system!"
    Use the "Broken" filter to locate it. ]
    Synaptic's Help isn't helpful :{
    It also reports packages to be updated.

    Also started to install gnumeric and it wanted to remove some files
    I associate with printer drivers and also ghostscript.

    To investigate I searched for it and Synaptic had a red filled box
    to the left of its name.

    I did a power off/on restart. Still the same.

    What should I do now?
    I suspect using apt &/or cousins would be more informative.\
    Never used them.

    Help please.
    [ learned >60 years ago - If you don't know what you're doin
    *DON'T*!!!]

    $ dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii '

    may give you an idea of which packages are broken.


    As to what can be done... 'broken' usually means that one or more
    dependencies of the package are unavailable, and cannot be found in the selected repositories. This happens reasonably often in unstable, but it shouldn't happen in a new installation of stable.

    If I were to guess, I'd say it involved a package which used to be in
    an older stable, but an upgrade to a new version of stable has occurred,
    and the new version doesn't contain the package. The package will not be removed, but it is now unsupported, and libraries it depends on may
    have been upgraded to versions outside the dependency specification. I
    have seen that happen, and it was a package I used to use occasionally
    before the upgrade. Some years ago now.

    We will have a better idea once some useful error messages have been
    obtained, such as by trying to upgrade the package using apt. Actually, Synaptic should be able to show the errors, by looking in the Details
    box during an upgrade attempt. It should display about the same
    messages as apt would.

    --
    Joe

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  • From Richard Owlett@21:1/5 to David Wright on Sat Nov 30 12:20:01 2024
    On 11/29/24 12:30 PM, David Wright wrote:
    On Thu 28 Nov 2024 at 07:55:37 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
    Running Debian 12.7 with MATE
    When launching Synaptic I get a message saying
    [ You have 1 broken package on your system!"
    Use the "Broken" filter to locate it. ]
    Synaptic's Help isn't helpful :{
    It also reports packages to be updated.

    Also started to install gnumeric and it wanted to remove some files I
    associate with printer drivers and also ghostscript.

    To investigate I searched for it and Synaptic had a red filled box to
    the left of its name.

    I did a power off/on restart. Still the same.

    What should I do now?
    I suspect using apt &/or cousins would be more informative.\
    Never used them.

    Help please.
    [ learned >60 years ago - If you don't know what you're doin *DON'T*!!!]

    $ dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii '

    may give you an idea of which packages are broken.

    Cheers,
    David.



    Its cryptic output referred to "ghostscript" for which Synaptic
    displayed a red check-box. I tried to remove it and then reinstall with synaptic which repeatedly complained when I tried to exit asking if it
    should discard marked changes. I choose Apply from menu. It responds:

    W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/g/ghostscript/libgs10_10.0.0%7edfsg-11%2bdeb12u5_amd64.deb
    404 Not Found [IP: 151.101.70.132 80]


    W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/g/ghostscript/libgs10-common_10.0.0%7edfsg-11%2bdeb12u5_all.deb
    404 Not Found [IP: 151.101.70.132 80]



    I then force exit and switch to terminal mode and do following:

    richard@debian12:~$ su
    Password:
    root@debian12:/home/richard# dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii ' Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
    | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
    |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
    ||/ Name Version Architecture Description
    +++-=============================================-===================================-============-================================================================================
    iU ghostscript 10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u5 amd64 interpreter for the PostScript language and for PDF
    root@debian12:/home/richard#

    followed by

    oot@debian12:/home/richard# dpkg -l '*ghostscript*'| grep -v '^ii ' Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
    | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
    |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
    ||/ Name Version Architecture Description +++-================-======================-============-===================================================
    iU ghostscript 10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u5 amd64 interpreter for the PostScript language and for PDF
    un ghostscript-cups <none> <none> (no description available)
    root@debian12:/home/richard#


    Thank you.
    Now what? ?? ??? <groaning grin> ;/

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  • From Joe@21:1/5 to Richard Owlett on Sat Nov 30 15:50:01 2024
    On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 05:18:35 -0600
    Richard Owlett <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 11/29/24 12:30 PM, David Wright wrote:
    On Thu 28 Nov 2024 at 07:55:37 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
    Running Debian 12.7 with MATE
    When launching Synaptic I get a message saying
    [ You have 1 broken package on your system!"
    Use the "Broken" filter to locate it. ]
    Synaptic's Help isn't helpful :{
    It also reports packages to be updated.

    Also started to install gnumeric and it wanted to remove some
    files I associate with printer drivers and also ghostscript.

    To investigate I searched for it and Synaptic had a red filled box
    to the left of its name.

    I did a power off/on restart. Still the same.

    What should I do now?
    I suspect using apt &/or cousins would be more informative.\
    Never used them.

    Help please.
    [ learned >60 years ago - If you don't know what you're doin
    *DON'T*!!!]

    $ dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii '

    may give you an idea of which packages are broken.

    Cheers,
    David.



    Its cryptic output referred to "ghostscript" for which Synaptic
    displayed a red check-box. I tried to remove it and then reinstall
    with synaptic which repeatedly complained when I tried to exit
    asking if it should discard marked changes. I choose Apply from menu.
    It responds:

    W: Failed to
    fetch http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/g/ghostscript/libgs10_10.0.0%7edfsg-11%2bdeb12u5_amd64.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 151.101.70.132 80]


    W: Failed to
    fetch http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/g/ghostscript/libgs10-common_10.0.0%7edfsg-11%2bdeb12u5_all.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 151.101.70.132 80]


    I don't know if it helps, but the current ghostscript on my Deb 12 is
    version 12u6, not 12u5.

    What happens when you try:

    apt upgrade ghostscript

    from a terminal? (as root/sudo, close Synaptic first, apt uses the same database)

    --
    Joe

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  • From Greg Wooledge@21:1/5 to Joe on Sat Nov 30 16:10:01 2024
    On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 14:45:01 +0000, Joe wrote:
    I don't know if it helps, but the current ghostscript on my Deb 12 is
    version 12u6, not 12u5.

    What happens when you try:

    apt upgrade ghostscript

    "apt upgrade" does not take a package name as an argument. It tries
    to upgrade *all* of the packages you have.

    To upgrade a single package, use "install" instead.

    apt update
    apt install ghostscript

    However, in Richard's case, the package is in state iU (Unpacked),
    which indicates that something failed during the installation,
    around the Unpacking step.

    The first thing I would've checked is "df". Make sure there are no
    file systems running out of space.

    If the file systems were fine, then I would've done

    dpkg --configure -a

    to retry whatever failed during or after the Unpacking step. If
    that fails, then you should see a message telling you why. Reporting
    that message would be an important detail when bringing the issue to
    the mailing list.

    If that command does nothing at all (because the package isn't ready
    for configuration), then I might try removing it, or I might try
    "apt update; apt install ghostscript" depending on which one I feel is
    more likely to work at that moment.

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  • From Joe@21:1/5 to Greg Wooledge on Sat Nov 30 17:20:01 2024
    On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 10:00:03 -0500
    Greg Wooledge <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 14:45:01 +0000, Joe wrote:
    I don't know if it helps, but the current ghostscript on my Deb 12
    is version 12u6, not 12u5.

    What happens when you try:

    apt upgrade ghostscript

    "apt upgrade" does not take a package name as an argument. It tries
    to upgrade *all* of the packages you have.

    To upgrade a single package, use "install" instead.

    apt update
    apt install ghostscript

    Sorry, I have done a couple of single upgrades, but long in the past,
    probably before apt was a separate command.

    --
    Joe

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  • From Richard Owlett@21:1/5 to Greg Wooledge on Sun Dec 1 11:50:02 2024
    On 11/30/24 9:00 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
    On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 14:45:01 +0000, Joe wrote:
    I don't know if it helps, but the current ghostscript on my Deb 12 is
    version 12u6, not 12u5.

    What happens when you try:

    apt upgrade ghostscript

    "apt upgrade" does not take a package name as an argument. It tries
    to upgrade *all* of the packages you have.

    To upgrade a single package, use "install" instead.

    apt update
    apt install ghostscript

    However, in Richard's case, the package is in state iU (Unpacked),
    which indicates that something failed during the installation,
    around the Unpacking step.

    The first thing I would've checked is "df". Make sure there are no
    file systems running out of space.

    If the file systems were fine, then I would've done

    dpkg --configure -a

    to retry whatever failed during or after the Unpacking step. If
    that fails, then you should see a message telling you why. Reporting
    that message would be an important detail when bringing the issue to
    the mailing list.

    If that command does nothing at all (because the package isn't ready
    for configuration), then I might try removing it, or I might try
    "apt update; apt install ghostscript" depending on which one I feel is
    more likely to work at that moment.



    In terminal mode as root I did "apt update" which concluded:=
    Fetched 62.1 MB in 30s (2,070 kB/s)
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree... Done
    Reading state information... Done
    77 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
    N: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease' changed its 'Version' value from '12.7' to '12.8'

    also
    root@debian12:/home/richard# df
    Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
    udev 1899716 0 1899716 0% /dev
    tmpfs 386696 1540 385156 1% /run
    /dev/sda9 23315280 14930176 7175404 68% /
    tmpfs 1933464 488 1932976 1% /dev/shm
    tmpfs 5120 8 5112 1% /run/lock
    /dev/sda6 14348168 24 13597456 1% /Bible
    /dev/sda8 65873764 53583092 8918864 86% /Deb9Home
    tmpfs 386692 72 386620 1% /run/user/1000

    Then

    root@debian12:/home/richard# apt --fix-broken install
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree... Done
    Reading state information... Done
    Correcting dependencies... Done
    The following additional packages will be installed:
    ghostscript libgs10 libgs10-common
    The following packages will be upgraded:
    ghostscript libgs10 libgs10-common
    3 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 74 not upgraded.
    1 not fully installed or removed.
    Need to get 3,111 kB of archives.
    After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
    Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
    Get:1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main amd64 ghostscript amd64 10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6 [57.5 kB]
    Get:2 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main amd64 libgs10 amd64 10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6 [2,467 kB]
    Get:3 http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security/main amd64 libgs10-common all 10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6 [587 kB]
    Fetched 3,111 kB in 1s (2,268 kB/s)
    Reading changelogs... Done
    (Reading database ... 180583 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../ghostscript_10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6_amd64.deb ... Unpacking ghostscript (10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6) over (10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u5) ...
    Preparing to unpack .../libgs10_10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6_amd64.deb ... Unpacking libgs10:amd64 (10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6) over (10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u4) ...
    Preparing to unpack .../libgs10-common_10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6_all.deb ... Unpacking libgs10-common (10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6) over (10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u4) ...
    Setting up libgs10-common (10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6) ...
    Setting up libgs10:amd64 (10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6) ...
    Setting up ghostscript (10.0.0~dfsg-11+deb12u6) ...
    Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.36-9+deb12u8) ...
    Processing triggers for man-db (2.11.2-2) ...
    root@debian12:/home/richard#

    All seems well so far. "dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii ' " reported no problems.
    Closed terminal and launched Synaptic. No errors *OR* warnings :}

    Thanks to all.
    What should I do next ( /etc/debian_version reports 12.7)?

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  • From Andrew M.A. Cater@21:1/5 to Richard Owlett on Sun Dec 1 13:20:02 2024
    On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 04:43:00AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
    On 11/30/24 9:00 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:

    "apt upgrade" does not take a package name as an argument. It tries
    to upgrade *all* of the packages you have.

    To upgrade a single package, use "install" instead.

    apt update
    apt install ghostscript


    If the file systems were fine, then I would've done

    dpkg --configure -a


    Greg's advice is absolutely correct. Occasionally a package will fail
    to unpack and the command above will essentially fix this.

    to retry whatever failed during or after the Unpacking step. If
    that fails, then you should see a message telling you why. Reporting
    that message would be an important detail when bringing the issue to
    the mailing list.


    In terminal mode as root I did "apt update" which concluded:=
    Fetched 62.1 MB in 30s (2,070 kB/s)
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree... Done
    Reading state information... Done
    77 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
    N: Repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease' changed its 'Version' value from '12.7' to '12.8'


    At that point, I might have stopped. Potentially you don't update often
    and you've missed the point release upgrade to 12.8 in the last month or
    so. That might also explain why files were missing, so:

    apt update ; apt full-upgrade

    or (my preference but others methods are also valid)

    apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade

    Then

    root@debian12:/home/richard# apt --fix-broken install

    <snippage>
    Processing triggers for man-db (2.11.2-2) ...
    root@debian12:/home/richard#

    All seems well so far. "dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii ' " reported no problems.

    Right, the upgrade you did seems to have worked fine.

    Closed terminal and launched Synaptic. No errors *OR* warnings :}

    Thanks to all.
    What should I do next ( /etc/debian_version reports 12.7)?

    apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade to make sure you're up to date
    then reboot. At that point, /etc/debian-version should read 12.8
    and uname -a should give you 6.0-28-amd64 as your kernel version

    All the very best, as ever,

    Andy Cater








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  • From Richard Owlett@21:1/5 to Andrew M.A. Cater on Mon Dec 2 14:10:01 2024
    On 12/1/24 6:12 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
    On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 04:43:00AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
    [SNIP]
    What should I do next ( /etc/debian_version reports 12.7)?

    apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade to make sure you're up to date
    then reboot. At that point, /etc/debian-version should read 12.8

    It does.

    and uname -a should give you 6.0-28-amd64 as your kernel version

    I see:
    richard@debian12:~$ uname -a
    Linux debian12 6.1.0-28-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.119-1 (2024-11-22) x86_64 GNU/Linux
    richard@debian12:~$



    All the very best, as ever,

    Andy Cater










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