On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 08:17:57 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:

This used to be a normal announcement on vtty login. On Trixie it's missing. What's responsible for it?

I think it's part of /etc/pam.d/login . On Debian 12, that file
includes this bit:

# Prints the last login info upon successful login
# (Replaces the `LASTLOG_ENAB' option from login.defs)
session optional pam_lastlog.so

I'm not *certain* that's it, but it looks like it.

Is it different on Trixie?

No idea. I don't run testing unless it's really close to release.

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This used to be a normal announcement on vtty login. On Trixie it's missing. What's responsible for it? Is it different on Trixie? On Tumbleweed it's a separate package lastlog or something like that. Search for similar for Trixie comes up empty. :(
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On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 08:17:57 -0500
Felix Miata <[email protected]> wrote:

This used to be a normal announcement on vtty login. On Trixie it's
missing.

Odd. It's present on the VM I recently installed using a recent weekly
build, "testing _Trixie_ - Official Snapshot amd64 NETINST with
firmware 20241028-03:22]".

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Greg Wooledge composed on 2024-11-05 08:27 (UTC-0500):

On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 08:17:57 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:

This used to be a normal announcement on vtty login. On Trixie it's missing. >> What's responsible for it?

I think it's part of /etc/pam.d/login . On Debian 12, that file
includes this bit:

# Prints the last login info upon successful login
# (Replaces the `LASTLOG_ENAB' option from login.defs)
session optional pam_lastlog.so

String lastlog is absent from that file here, same as the file's section you quoted. According to apt-file, there is no pam_lastlog.so on the system either, which in Bookworm is provided by libpam-modules, which is installed on Trixie.

I'm not *certain* that's it, but it looks like it.

Is it different on Trixie?

No idea. I don't run testing unless it's really close to release.

It certainly appears it must work differently on Trixie.
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Charles Curley composed on 2024-11-05 09:15 (UTC-0500):

On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 08:17:57 -0500 Felix Miata wrote:

This used to be a normal announcement on vtty login. On Trixie it's
missing.

Odd. It's present on the VM I recently installed using a recent weekly
build, "testing _Trixie_ - Official Snapshot amd64 NETINST with
firmware 20241028-03:22]".

I have a dozen installations, all upgrades from Bookworm, most if not all done last year. I haven't tracked whether all have the problem, but I do think that's
the case.

Kernel version announces, but not last login.
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On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 10:08:51AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:

Greg Wooledge composed on 2024-11-05 08:27 (UTC-0500):

On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 08:17:57 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:

This used to be a normal announcement on vtty login. On Trixie it's missing.
What's responsible for it?

I think it's part of /etc/pam.d/login . On Debian 12, that file
includes this bit:

# Prints the last login info upon successful login
# (Replaces the `LASTLOG_ENAB' option from login.defs)
session optional pam_lastlog.so

String lastlog is absent from that file here, same as the file's section you quoted. According to apt-file, there is no pam_lastlog.so on the system either,
which in Bookworm is provided by libpam-modules, which is installed on Trixie.

I'm not *certain* that's it, but it looks like it.

Is it different on Trixie?

No idea. I don't run testing unless it's really close to release.

It certainly appears it must work differently on Trixie.

In a hurry now, but this:

https://packages.debian.org/trixie/admin/libpam-lastlog2

seems to provide a clue.

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On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 07:15:50 -0700
Charles Curley <[email protected]> wrote:

On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 08:17:57 -0500
Felix Miata <[email protected]> wrote:

This used to be a normal announcement on vtty login. On Trixie it's missing.

Odd. It's present on the VM I recently installed using a recent weekly
build, "testing _Trixie_ - Official Snapshot amd64 NETINST with
firmware 20241028-03:22]".

Odder. Felix Miata <[email protected]> specifically mentioned a
vtty. I made the statement above after logging in via SSH. So I logged
in to the same VM via a virtual console. No last login message there. I
confirm that the message is present in a Bookworm virtual console.

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Felix Miata composed on 2024-11-05 08:17 (UTC-0500):

This used to be a normal announcement on vtty login. On Trixie it's missing. What's responsible for it? Is it different on Trixie? On Tumbleweed it's a separate package lastlog or something like that. Search for similar for Trixie
comes up empty. :(

I don't know how I managed to come up empty, but on retry after reading thread replies, two I should have found turned up - libpam-lastlog2 & liblastlog2-2. Now
in /etc/pam.d/common-session I have the session optional pam_lastlog.so that Greg
pointed to, but after systemctl daemon-reload, no change, and also no change after
reboot. systemctl list-unit-files | grep last returns null. There's no man page for common-session. pam-auth-update common-session has (and had), "Maintain lastlog2 database" enabled, yet still no last login after another reboot to multi-user.target. / filesystem has Inode size 128. Could that be it? Nope. I was
able to change it to 256 with tune2fs, but still no last login after yet another
reboot. :(
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On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 13:37:26 -0500
Jeffrey Walton <[email protected]> wrote:

I believe the message in SSH is due to /etc/ssh/sshd_config. Search
for "banner."

I think not. My sshd_config files on both bookworm and trixie have
banner commented out. According to the man page for that file, the
default is no banner.

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Felix Miata composed on 2024-11-05 13:37 (UTC-0500):

Felix Miata composed on 2024-11-05 08:17 (UTC-0500):

This used to be a normal announcement on vtty login. On Trixie it's missing. >> What's responsible for it? Is it different on Trixie? On Tumbleweed it's a >> separate package lastlog or something like that. Search for similar for Trixie
comes up empty. :(

I don't know how I managed to come up empty, but on retry after reading thread
replies, two I should have found turned up - libpam-lastlog2 & liblastlog2-2. Now
in /etc/pam.d/common-session I have the session optional pam_lastlog.so that Greg
pointed to, but after systemctl daemon-reload, no change, and also no change after
reboot. systemctl list-unit-files | grep last returns null. There's no man page
for common-session. pam-auth-update common-session has (and had), "Maintain lastlog2 database" enabled, yet still no last login after another reboot to multi-user.target. / filesystem has Inode size 128. Could that be it? Nope. I was
able to change it to 256 with tune2fs, but still no last login after yet another
reboot. :(

Another apparently needed package turned up, so the total installed now is 3: lastlog2
liblastlog2-2
libpam-lastlog2

Finally it works.
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