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  • Re: Debian 12: need nvidia-settings to join 2 2560x1440 into a2880x2560

    From gene heskett@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Oct 8 20:30:01 2024
    On 10/8/24 08:14, [email protected] wrote:
    On Tue, Oct 08, 2024 at 01:41:20PM +0200, Roger Price wrote:

    [...]

    Synaptic now finds nvidia-settings, but wants 72 other packages to be
    loaded, including gcc which I took as a health and safety warning.

    This is DKMS [1]: NVIDIA's kernel module isn't GPL compatible (but the
    GPL allows you, the end user, to compile whatever you like). So DKMS
    goes and compiles the kernel module in your box at package install for
    you. That's what gcc is for.

    Somewhere between magic and alien tech, if you ask me :-D

    Not magic, or off-planet stuff, Tomas, but nvidia finally after 40 years realizing they are not going to monetize THEIR code, but more
    importantly, they are beginning to understand also that if they want to
    sell us smart sand, it had better work with our way of doing things. We
    are a market they today can't afford to ignore. One very small step in
    the right direction for nvidia. I see it as progress for us. And
    progress should be accepted with a smile.

    Cheers

    [1] https://wiki.debian.org/KernelDKMS

    Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
    --
    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
    If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
    - Louis D. Brandeis

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to gene heskett on Tue Oct 8 20:50:02 2024
    On Tue, Oct 08, 2024 at 02:28:44PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
    On 10/8/24 08:14, [email protected] wrote:
    On Tue, Oct 08, 2024 at 01:41:20PM +0200, Roger Price wrote:

    [...]

    Synaptic now finds nvidia-settings, but wants 72 other packages to be loaded, including gcc which I took as a health and safety warning.

    This is DKMS [1]: NVIDIA's kernel module isn't GPL compatible (but the
    GPL allows you, the end user, to compile whatever you like). So DKMS
    goes and compiles the kernel module in your box at package install for
    you. That's what gcc is for.

    Somewhere between magic and alien tech, if you ask me :-D

    Not magic, or off-planet stuff, Tomas, but nvidia finally after 40 years realizing [...]

    Don't get me wrong. The magic is *not* by NVidia, who could just have
    made their cra^H^H^Hdrivers available under the GPL (then all that
    nonsense wouldn't be necessary) -- or, even better, just document their hardware without NDAs and let capable folks do the programming.

    The magic is by the kernel folks and the Debian folks for providing
    this incredibly seamless experience with a whole compile toolchain
    whirring away under the hood.

    No, NVidia is still rather hostile to free software. Currently they
    are being flooded with money from the AI bros, who don't care about
    free software either (true to the most hard-nosed capitalist principle,
    they steal whatever they can get away with and don't give back).

    Cheers
    --
    tomás

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  • From gene heskett@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Oct 8 21:10:01 2024
    On 10/8/24 14:48, [email protected] wrote:
    On Tue, Oct 08, 2024 at 02:28:44PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
    On 10/8/24 08:14, [email protected] wrote:
    On Tue, Oct 08, 2024 at 01:41:20PM +0200, Roger Price wrote:

    [...]

    Synaptic now finds nvidia-settings, but wants 72 other packages to be
    loaded, including gcc which I took as a health and safety warning.

    This is DKMS [1]: NVIDIA's kernel module isn't GPL compatible (but the
    GPL allows you, the end user, to compile whatever you like). So DKMS
    goes and compiles the kernel module in your box at package install for
    you. That's what gcc is for.

    Somewhere between magic and alien tech, if you ask me :-D

    Not magic, or off-planet stuff, Tomas, but nvidia finally after 40 years
    realizing [...]

    Don't get me wrong. The magic is *not* by NVidia, who could just have
    made their cra^H^H^Hdrivers available under the GPL (then all that
    nonsense wouldn't be necessary) -- or, even better, just document their hardware without NDAs and let capable folks do the programming.

    The magic is by the kernel folks and the Debian folks for providing
    this incredibly seamless experience with a whole compile toolchain
    whirring away under the hood.

    No, NVidia is still rather hostile to free software. Currently they
    are being flooded with money from the AI bros, who don't care about
    free software either (true to the most hard-nosed capitalist principle,
    they steal whatever they can get away with and don't give back).

    Cheers
    Which is why I catalogue MBA's in the same box as all the lawyers Bill
    S. said he would kill first.

    Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
    --
    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
    If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
    - Louis D. Brandeis

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to gene heskett on Wed Oct 9 06:30:01 2024
    On Tue, Oct 08, 2024 at 03:01:53PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:

    [...]

    Which is why I catalogue MBA's in the same box as all the lawyers Bill S. said he would kill first.

    I don't think killing is a good idea. Still, I'd be happy if the nerd
    community had the brains to not flock towards those bad actors like
    lemmings [1].

    Microsoft wouldn't have its stupid Github business, converting software development into yet another dystopian fakebook if we didn't swallow
    that.

    Cheers

    [1] I know: this lemmings-jumping-off-cliffs is a legend; it still
    makes for a good metaphor for us stupid humans.

    --
    t

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