• Problems with fresh 64 bit Debian 12.7

    From Richard Owlett@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 28 18:40:01 2024
    Underlying Problem: Debian is *TOO* good and reliable ;}!
    32 bit Debian 9.13 has given yeoman service.
    But I want some features that weren't available in the Jurassic.
    Having a low data cap, I went to local library and downloaded
    [ seamonkey-2.53.19.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 ].

    This morning's install was straight forward and relatively uneventful.
    For it to be "functional" I need some tools I've had ~forever:
    1. caja-admin to have "open as administrator".
    2. arandr to have a screen big enough and bright enough to see.

    In Synaptic I attempted to connect to an online repository.
    It told me:
    > The repository 'cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 12.7.0 _Bookworm_ -
    Official
    > amd64 DVD Binary-1 with firmware 20240831-10:40] bookworm
    Release' does
    > not have a Release file.
    I saw no way to tell it to go online.

    Synaptic's small dim "Help" didn't ;{
    I haven't installed Debian programs in eons - What/where should I be
    reading?

    TIA

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  • From Andrew M.A. Cater@21:1/5 to Richard Owlett on Sat Sep 28 19:20:01 2024
    On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 11:35:34AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
    Underlying Problem: Debian is *TOO* good and reliable ;}!
    32 bit Debian 9.13 has given yeoman service.
    But I want some features that weren't available in the Jurassic.
    Having a low data cap, I went to local library and downloaded
    [ seamonkey-2.53.19.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 ].

    This morning's install was straight forward and relatively uneventful.
    For it to be "functional" I need some tools I've had ~forever:
    1. caja-admin to have "open as administrator".
    2. arandr to have a screen big enough and bright enough to see.

    In Synaptic I attempted to connect to an online repository.
    It told me:
    > The repository 'cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 12.7.0 _Bookworm_ - Official
    > amd64 DVD Binary-1 with firmware 20240831-10:40] bookworm Release'
    does
    > not have a Release file.
    I saw no way to tell it to go online.

    Synaptic's small dim "Help" didn't ;{
    I haven't installed Debian programs in eons - What/where should I be
    reading?

    TIA



    Richard,

    Read /etc/apt/sources.list

    Potentially, if you install from a DVD and do not have immediate network access, the /etc/apt/sources.list contains a DVD entry as the first line
    and (possibly) commented out lines below for the main Debian repositories.

    That's what the message suggests to me: if the DVD is the first line and
    is not commented out, comment it out / delete it then apt update and try
    again.

    All the very best, as ever,

    Andy Cater
    ([email protected])


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  • From Richard Owlett@21:1/5 to Andrew M.A. Cater on Sat Sep 28 19:50:01 2024
    On 09/28/2024 12:13 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
    On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 11:35:34AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
    Underlying Problem: Debian is *TOO* good and reliable ;}!
    32 bit Debian 9.13 has given yeoman service.
    But I want some features that weren't available in the Jurassic.
    Having a low data cap, I went to local library and downloaded
    [ seamonkey-2.53.19.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 ].

    This morning's install was straight forward and relatively uneventful.
    For it to be "functional" I need some tools I've had ~forever:
    1. caja-admin to have "open as administrator".
    2. arandr to have a screen big enough and bright enough to see.

    In Synaptic I attempted to connect to an online repository.
    It told me:
    > The repository 'cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 12.7.0 _Bookworm_ - Official
    > amd64 DVD Binary-1 with firmware 20240831-10:40] bookworm Release'
    does
    > not have a Release file.
    I saw no way to tell it to go online.

    Synaptic's small dim "Help" didn't ;{
    I haven't installed Debian programs in eons - What/where should I be
    reading?

    TIA



    Richard,

    Read /etc/apt/sources.list

    Potentially, if you install from a DVD and do not have immediate network access, the /etc/apt/sources.list contains a DVD entry as the first line
    and (possibly) commented out lines below for the main Debian repositories.

    That's what the message suggests to me: if the DVD is the first line and
    is not commented out, comment it out / delete it then apt update and try again.

    All the very best, as ever,

    Andy Cater
    ([email protected])




    Think you got it. I has only a single line:

    deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 12.7.0 _Bookworm_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 with firmware 20240831-10:40]/ bookworm contrib main non-free-firmware

    Won't be able to try the "apt update" until tonight or tomorrow.
    If it doesn't work I'll compare the Debian 9 sources.list to see if I
    can interpolate adequately.

    Thanks.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to Richard Owlett on Sat Sep 28 21:00:01 2024
    On 9/28/24 13:48, Richard Owlett wrote:
    On 09/28/2024 12:13 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
    On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 11:35:34AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
    Underlying Problem: Debian is *TOO* good and reliable ;}!
    32 bit Debian 9.13 has given yeoman service.
    But I want some features that weren't available in the Jurassic.
    Having a low data cap, I went to local library and downloaded
    [ seamonkey-2.53.19.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 ].

    This morning's install was straight forward and relatively uneventful.
    For it to be "functional" I need some tools I've had ~forever:
       1. caja-admin to have "open as administrator".
       2. arandr to have a screen big enough and bright enough to see.

    In Synaptic I attempted to connect to an online repository.
    It told me:
         > The repository 'cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 12.7.0 _Bookworm_ - >>> Official
         > amd64 DVD Binary-1 with firmware 20240831-10:40] bookworm Release'
    does
         > not have a Release file.
    I saw no way to tell it to go online.

    Synaptic's small dim "Help" didn't ;{
    I haven't installed Debian programs in eons - What/where should I be
    reading?

    TIA



    Richard,

    Read /etc/apt/sources.list

    Potentially, if you install from a DVD and do not have immediate network
    access, the /etc/apt/sources.list contains a DVD entry as the first line
    and (possibly) commented out lines below for the main Debian repositories. >>
    That's what the message suggests to me: if the DVD is the first line and
    is not commented out, comment it out / delete it then apt update and try
    again.

    All the very best, as ever,

    Andy Cater
    ([email protected])




    Think you got it. I has only a single line:

    deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 12.7.0 _Bookworm_ - Official amd64 DVD
    Binary-1 with firmware 20240831-10:40]/ bookworm contrib main
    non-free-firmware

    Won't be able to try the "apt update" until tonight or tomorrow.
    If it doesn't work I'll compare the Debian 9 sources.list to see if I can interpolate adequately.

    For comparison, here is mine:

    eben@cerberus:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
    deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main contrib non-free-firmware non-free
    deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security contrib main non-free non-free-firmware
    deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates contrib main non-free non-free-firmware
    deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-proposed-updates contrib main non-free non-free-firmware
    deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports contrib main non-free non-free-firmware

    (Each is one line starting with "deb". Wrap happens.)

    eben@cerberus:~$ grep -v -e '^$' -e '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/deb-multimedia.list:deb
    https://www.deb-multimedia.org bookworm main non-free /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mellanox_mlnx_ofed.list:deb http://linux.mellanox.com/public/repo/mlnx_ofed/24.04-0.7.0.0/debian12.1/$(ARCH)
    ./
    /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tor.list:deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/tor-archive-keyring.gpg] https://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org bookworm main


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  • From Andrew M.A. Cater@21:1/5 to Richard Owlett on Sat Sep 28 20:20:01 2024
    On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 12:48:41PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
    On 09/28/2024 12:13 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
    On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 11:35:34AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
    Underlying Problem: Debian is *TOO* good and reliable ;}!
    32 bit Debian 9.13 has given yeoman service.
    But I want some features that weren't available in the Jurassic.

    Read /etc/apt/sources.list

    All the very best, as ever,

    Andy Cater
    ([email protected])

    Think you got it. I has only a single line:

    deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 12.7.0 _Bookworm_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 with firmware 20240831-10:40]/ bookworm contrib main non-free-firmware


    You need the following for bookworm sources.list - very different from sources.list for 9 - you did read the bookworm release notes?
    [Note for people playing along at home: ALWAYS read the release notes - as reiterated on this list, many times].

    Entries originally taken from wiki.debian.org/SourcesList

    deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware

    deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware

    deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware

    Won't be able to try the "apt update" until tonight or tomorrow.
    If it doesn't work I'll compare the Debian 9 sources.list to see if I can interpolate adequately.


    Don't interpolate, _read_ : lots has changed since June 2017, even if it's
    only three Debian major releases.

    Thanks.


    All the very best, as ever,

    Andy Cater
    ([email protected])




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